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lol, this channel's still here |
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suggests that the recent removal of tons of channels was pretty much just grepping for "libera" in channel topics |
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<riff-IRC> ya |
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<independent56> what's the thing here? has the discord been griefed? |
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<independent56> 0_0 |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> ? |
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Menchers |
freenode's gotten griefed D: |
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#minetest didn't get hit this time |
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<independent56> phew, at least discord hasnt lost years of archived information |
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<independent56> one question: can i use my archived data from the client how i like? pastebinning stuff i want to preserve? |
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<thmh> there's already a public log https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2021-05-26 |
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<independent56> haha yay! |
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<independent56> so that means i can pastebing >:-> |
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<independent56> (bing is not a bin, its a spelling error. remove the g) |
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<thmh> pastebing is microsoft's competing service |
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<cheapie> Maybe PasteBing is like Pastebin but makes this noise at random: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Fq6qFwcK0U&t=12s |
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<independent56> and pastegoogle takes all the pastes you make, extracts data from them, ands sells it to advertisers. |
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<cheapie> And PastePasteGo at least claims to be better than that but never really shows you what you're looking for to begin with? |
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<independent56> duckduckpaste has an auto-burn of one hour, and it's search function isnt that great (in comparison to pastegoogle's, wich always gives you what you're thinking - "bannana paste" ends up with "reasons your lover dosent love you") |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> i was typing first!# |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> this day, but 2013: https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2013-05-26 |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> shows you what wa sgoing on ~8 years ago. |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> https://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2012-06-29 |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> from when the log began |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> cool |
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<independent56> im at gmt+1. BST ist cool? |
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<Benrob0329> Am I the only one who actually has more trouble getting what I want from Google than DuckDuckGo? |
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<Benrob0329> Maybe I just know DDG's engine better than Google's to the point that it makes a difference |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> i have no trouble with either of them |
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<independent56> they both give results. finding your result in a sea of bad ones was always a part of search results. |
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<GreenXenith> Ping |
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<MTDiscord> <GreenXenith> Pong |
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BrBridge |
<Benrob0329> test |
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benrob0329 |
perfect |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> results inconclusive :P |
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<Jonathon> *however they lean towards test sucess but are not statistical significant |
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<VanessaE> heh |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> nope |
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<VanessaE> no +V for you |
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<sfan5> this isn't -hub |
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<VanessaE> but you can have a +v at least :D |
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<VanessaE> oops |
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<benrob0329> heh |
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<sfan5> I thought +m was removed from -hub anyway? |
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<VanessaE> well he STILL can't have +V :) |
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<benrob0329> It would seem there is no +m in -hub here |
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<Hawk777> Hey folks, just checking, is the plan here that the bridge will remain in place long-term, or at least until nobody visits Freenode any more? I’m trying to decide whether I should remain in both channels (and get duplicate messages) or only this one (and potentially miss chat on Freenode should the bridge be shut down at some point). |
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BrBridge |
<sfan5> just stay here |
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<VanessaE> freenode is dead, it just hasn't stopped twitching |
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<Hawk777> Haha sounds good. |
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<benrob0329> The bridge doesn't cost me anything extra to run, so it'll stay around until it can't anymore |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> not sure I recommend that, benrob0329 |
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<VanessaE> freenode's gestapo is kinda going full retard on old channels... |
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<benrob0329> I mean, sure, but I don't think that bridges are against policy, otherwise the Matrix bridge would get shut down. Besides, if the bot gets banned that just means it's time to never look back :P |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> Is there an API for the logs? Or do I have to scrape the HTML? |
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BrBridge |
<Sokomine> VanessaE: can't withhold the letter V from someone! now benrob0329 has to write all words starting with v in lowercase (luckily that is no big probelm in english and chat :)) |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> heh |
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BrBridge |
<benrob0329> If a staff decision is made to remove it I will, but I'm willing to leave it up as long as possible as well |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> (I'd like to have the full history available in Thunderbird) |
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BrBridge |
<sofar> please stop connecting to freenode entirely |
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BrBridge |
<sofar> the faster people leave the better for everyone here |
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BrBridge |
<benrob0329> Sokomine: Well, I guess I'll have to call vanessaE vE from now on |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> heh |
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<independent56> yeas! |
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BrBridge |
<Sokomine> benrob0329: thanks for that! |
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IceDragon |
ah, since I'm stranded here, where does channe live now? |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> yay, lowerCamelCase :D |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> yeah, just AKICK the old channels and ditch the relay. |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> it's over, really. |
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BrBridge |
<sfan5> @appguru there is not, the best you get is a plaintext version; and I doubt you *really* want the full history avaialble |
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BrBridge |
<sfan5> you can be sure the public logs won't be going away |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> IceDragon irc.libera.chat #minetest |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> I am sure that they won't be going away |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> I really want the full history however |
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IceDragon |
Thanks a bunch VanessaE |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> yw. |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> Probably won't stuff it on my SSD tho :P |
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BrBridge |
<sfan5> it's 570MB on disk |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> Oh that's acceptable |
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BrBridge |
<Jonathon> The only reason to relay to freenode is matrix support |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> so relay to a relay? |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> Couldn't the Matrix relay be configured to relay to Libera? |
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BrBridge |
<IceDragon> wasn't the internet always just relays though? |
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BrBridge |
<Jonathon> No |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> Internet Relay Chat ;) |
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BrBridge |
<Sokomine> btw, has anyone a solution to my formspec dropdown vs. scroll container problem? scrolling scrolls the dropdown if the mouse is still there...but in this case ought to scroll the scroll container unless clicked... |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> tell matrix users to get real IRC clients then |
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BrBridge |
<Jonathon> Because freenode runs them and the matrix channels are freenode irc named |
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<VanessaE> it's not like Hexchat takes a lot of space or bandwidth |
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<benrob0329> *Matrix.org runs them |
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BrBridge |
<Jonathon> Tell irc users to vet out of the darkages |
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BrBridge |
<Jonathon> *get |
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<Jonathon> Ok, i stand corrected then |
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<benrob0329> But I can set up some Matrix rooms and point BrBridge to them |
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<Jonathon> Isnt matrix working on libera support tho? |
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BrBridge |
<Sokomine> no, won't use discord. it's horrible. such a bloated program to get something that is *less* convenient than an irc client...no |
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<Jonathon> As long as the relay to freenode works not much purpose |
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<appguru> I can see why people won't use Discord |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> But a main advantage is definitely the message history |
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BrBridge |
<Jonathon> coughs in matrix |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> In IRC you have to roll your own logging |
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BrBridge |
<Jonathon> And bouncer |
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<benrob0329> looks at IRCv3's CHATHISTORY spec |
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<appguru> oh there is? |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> does Libera support it? |
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BrBridge |
<benrob0329> THere's been the batch type for marking it for a while now, and there's a draft spec for a command to specifically request logs. |
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<benrob0329> And Libera is about as on-the-ball for IRCv3 stuff as Freenode was |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> i just set it up |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> logger56 is the logging account |
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<sfan5> we don't need a second log here |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> You don't need one |
| 16:53 |
BrBridge |
<appguru> That's why I'm planning on leveraging the existing logs :) |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> he is an old netbook. and a 20:50 every night, he packages up the chat. and at 21:00, my main gets it via scp. |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> i dont need one. correct. but i do liek having a private log |
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<Jonathon> Why not just wget irc.minetest.net |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> Mirroring the public logs is way more convenient IMO |
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<independent56> it was a fun project |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> and still is fun |
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BrBridge |
<benrob0329> Libera doesn't even support message tags, which are not really new at this point and allow nice new features |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> adv_chat parses message tags properly :) |
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BrBridge |
<appguru> it just has no use for them currently |
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BrBridge |
<Soni> when's opting-out of BrBridge but not MTDiscord gonna be a thing? |
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BrBridge |
<sfan5> as soon as BrBridge disappears ;) |
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BrBridge |
<Soni> why does [off] apply to both |
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BrBridge |
<benrob0329> See https://github.com/solanum-ircd/solanum/issues/167 if you want to support Libera gettings message tags |
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BrBridge |
<Sokomine> what are message tags for? what's needed is normal chat and something like /me. if that's there chat can commence. ok, and /msg |
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BrBridge |
<benrob0329> Message tags don't replace CTCP (yet) but they provide a standard (and compatible thanks to capability negotiation) way of adding metadata to messages |
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BrBridge |
<benrob0329> So things like message IDs, reactions, replies, and edits, as well as marking netsplits and chat history all become fairly trivial with them |
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<Sokomine> ah, ok |
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<Bombo> hi |
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<bdju> are both minetest channels still being used for now then? |
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BrBridge |
<bdju> oh they're bridged |
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<independent56> here is an excuse: i am logging incase the original logs are gone. or they are editied. or they are made innacessible by poor administration. |
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<IceDragon> nothing is stopping admins from booting the logging user though |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> IceDragon: true. but i dont think they will, as i am logging on this account. default behaviour for many clients |
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<independent56> whats happening here? |
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<independent56> my logwebbook is streaming banned users |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> wow wtf |
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<logger56> at least it's stopped |
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<logger56> all of them are IP bans |
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<Soni> we take it someone moved bans over? |
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BrBridge |
<independent56> probably |
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BrBridge |
<benrob0329> Correct |
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<independent56> good |
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<independent56> at least it wasnt my logger being banned |
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BrBridge |
<VanessaE> yeah they're just importing the ban list from fn |
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<alket> chat logs? |
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<independent56> yay! |
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Panquesito7 |
hi guys :) |
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hlqkj |
o/ |
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sfan5 |
!op |
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sfan5 |
!op |
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Helenah |
So... how many more channels am I going to have to keep joining on here! |
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Helenah |
Oh and hi! :3 |
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* sfan5 |
waves |
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est31 |
hi |
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sfan5 |
hello |
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* est31 |
waves at sfan5 |
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VanessaE |
a wild est31 appears! |
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est31 |
:) |
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* twoelk |
waves goodbye to the old channel |
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twoelk |
o/ |
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twoelk |
\o |
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est31 |
freenode broke my bouncer config for some reason |
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sofar |
nothing like freenode bringing back together good old friends |
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est31 |
I don't know what the problem is and I dont think I want to debug it at this point |
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Conrad |
est31: Freenode breaks a lot of things :D |
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est31 |
indeed |
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Conrad |
Can't even get op in my channel anymore |
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Conrad |
I figure the only way to shut down the channel is to mention Libera a bunch of times. |
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est31 |
lol |
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est31 |
l*bera |
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Conrad |
Then the freenode nazis will join and take over |
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VanessaE |
..and scream about freeze peach :P |
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twoelk |
ugh, now I keep thinking of peach flvor icecream |
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twoelk |
*flavor |
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Conrad |
peach flavor anything is overrated |
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* Conrad |
sings Libera to the tune of the Liberty Mutual jingle |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> it really should've been called liberia chat but there we go |
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Conrad |
My brother kept typing irc.liberia.net. I figured I'd let him figure out what he'd botched up. |
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sfan5 |
i've made the same mistake a couple of times |
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Conrad |
If you search irc libera on Google, it pulls up a page about IRC (the foundation) and the work they've done in Liberia. |
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est31 |
lol |
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MTDiscord |
<twoelk> I first thought of Liberace the entertainer |
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est31 |
sofar: :) |
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Krock |
ping |
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x_ |
\o |
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Krock |
hi xerox |
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independent56 |
is there a way to get the length of the train using luaATC? my mainline needs 2-wagon trains, oherwise the stationsare too small. summat like "if train_length() == 2 then set_line("passanger") end" |
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Krock |
independent56: that's a question about black magic. perhaps checking the books (source) yourself will yield quicker answers |
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independent56 |
Krock: https://advtrains.de/wiki/doku.php?id=usage:atlatc:api |
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independent56 |
this does not mention of it |
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independent56 |
i wish i could |
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Krock |
well then, dig into the source code |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> independent56: afaik no |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> would be just #train.trainparts though |
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independent56 |
i'll look into fixing this hole |
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independent56 |
wdym with that "#train.trainparts"? |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> facepalm read the source code and you will figure that out |
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independent56 |
what file should i read? |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Somewhere in the lua automation directory (I'm reading that as well) |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Hm, there is the train_length function |
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independent56 |
ohhh! can i have a link? |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> train_length = function() if not train_id then return false end; return #train.trainparts end |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> advtrains_luaautomation/atc_rail.lua:86 |
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independent56 |
thats intresting |
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independent56 |
lemme test it |
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independent56 |
im adding this to the wiki! |
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independent56 |
what do you think? |
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independent56 |
https://advtrains.de/wiki/doku.php?id=usage:atlatc:api&do=diff |
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independent56 |
<@603283606894280704> |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> independent56: "wagon" is not a length unit like meter or inch |
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independent56 |
oh... you fix it (thats the way wikis work) /qj |
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independent56 |
thx |
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independent56 |
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/826159362225209406/847209602546532362/Screenshot_from_2021-05-26_21-26-25.png?width=1081&height=608 |
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independent56 |
advtrains is great for meat farms |
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logger56 |
independent56: |
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logger56 |
fucking hell thats horrible |
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logger56 |
i wish i wssnt cursed to share the same body s 56independent |
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independent56 |
wait |
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logger56 |
why did you do that thunderbird? |
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loofer |
What is the difference between minetest.net and minetest.org |
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minetest.org isn't an official website, AFAIK |
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calcul0n |
loofer, minetest.net is the real one, the other should not be trusted |
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calcul0n |
(the real answer is a long story :) |
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hah, just scrolled to the bottom and saw oldcoder's name |
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loofer |
Okay, I think minetest.org said something about minetest final being better than minetest 5.0 |
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sfan5 |
the software offered by the other website is a fork of an outdated state of Minetest; the person running the other site is no longer part of our community due to continued threats and personal harassment |
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sfan5 |
that's about as short as it gets while covering all you need to know |
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loofer |
Ok, thanks! |
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