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10:35 MinetestBot [git] x2048 -> minetest/minetest: Add smooth light-shadow transition at noon (#11430) ff2d2a6 https://git.io/J4nGP (2021-07-25T10:35:12Z)
10:35 MinetestBot [git] random-geek -> minetest/minetest: Document glasslikeliquidlevel merge bits (#11479) 5d27cc5 https://git.io/J4nGM (2021-07-25T10:34:53Z)
10:38 MinetestBot [git] x2048 -> minetest/minetest: Distribute shadow map update over multiple frames to reduce stutter (… bf3acbf https://git.io/J4nCo (2021-07-25T10:36:23Z)
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17:20 independent56 is <!doctype html> effecitvley the same as #!/usr/bin/perl?
17:21 sfan5 if you muddy it enough I'm sure the answer could be yes
17:21 sfan5 but it's in fact no
17:23 independent56 Makes sense. One is for the browser, and another is for scripts.
17:24 sfan5 that's not the reason
17:24 entuland a bit of a stretch, but you could consider them as "headers" to tell the computer what to do with anything that follows
17:25 entuland the first tells the browser to expect a specific variant of the many HTML incarnations, the second tells the computer to pass the rest to a specific program to interpret it
17:25 independent56 hmm
17:26 MTDiscord <Sublayer plank> for all intents and purposes today it's just a way to tell the browser to render the page in standards compliant mode as compared to quirks mode
17:26 independent56 hmm
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19:06 AristotIe my local minetest server hosted by my raspberry pi has this problem where if more than one person joins the server it times out, but my ssh connection stays up.  any ideas on what could be causing this?
19:09 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Does the same set of mods and configuration work on any other machine?  Crapping out on a second player joining sounds like the kind of behavior I'd expect from a bad mod that was never tested with and doesn't actually work with multiplayer.
19:09 independent56 simple - different bandiwht requirements. SSH requires like 1 Kb, minetest requires 100mb.
19:09 independent56 Maybe your server is incapable
19:10 independent56 (turn off bitcoinminer)
19:10 AristotIe well, occasionally after many reboots, you can get 2 people to  join and it works, but once those people log out, it goes back to it's normal behavior
19:11 MTDiscord <Warr1024> That bandwidth ratio is pretty insane, I don't think it's that bad for any reasonable content.  Though yeah, again, any one bad mod could drastically change what MT actually requires.
19:11 AristotIe and I did "ethtool eth0 | grep Speed" and it said 1000Mb/s
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19:12 MTDiscord <Warr1024> That doesn't mean that the chip is actually capable of processing and pushing that much data though.
19:12 independent56 Must be some mod. Maybe you have too much to handle (what my server almost has)
19:12 AristotIe hmm, true
19:12 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Best thing to do is monitor resource usage like CPU, RAM, network, I/O, etc. while it's running and see if you can find a bottleneck.
19:12 AristotIe hmm, good idea
19:13 AristotIe do you know of any terminal based apps that can do that?
19:14 entuland "nmon" could do probably
19:15 AristotIe hmm, thx
19:16 entuland yw
19:20 AristotIe ah, if the minetest server is taking 100% of the cpu, it probably has only a small amount of bandwidth left to do 2-300Mb/s
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22:24 erlehmann > virtual void* ServerThread::run(): A fatal error occurred: String too long for serializeString16
22:24 erlehmann anyone has any idea how this can crap out in server.cpp?
22:24 erlehmann like, conceptually
22:24 erlehmann what does a too long string represent here?
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22:30 erlehmann https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10981
22:30 erlehmann > String too long for serializeString(16) caused by mod #10981
22:30 ShadowBot https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10981 -- String too long for serializeString(16) caused by mod
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22:34 erlehmann https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8977
22:41 erlehmann so it seems items with too much meta can trigger this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/8977#issuecomment-756870048
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