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fluxionary |
is it possible for modpacks to have other modpacks inside them? |
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fluxionary |
not that i want to do such |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> yes, but support is rough |
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fluxionary |
how so? |
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fluxionary |
also does anyone actually do that? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> look up nested modpacks in the issue tracker |
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fluxionary |
what i'm doing is writing an analog for "/mods" like "/help" |
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fluxionary |
thx, will do so |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> only 4 prs by the same author over time for that |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> typically with not great code |
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fluxionary |
hmmm given that no-one felt that this is worth fixing in 8 years, leads me to hope i can assume i don't really have to worry about that in the wild for now |
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rubenwardy |
it can happen in games |
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rubenwardy |
just not in global mods |
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rubenwardy |
it's actually just a GUI limitation. It's possible to use them by manually editing world.mt |
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fluxionary |
given that what i'm doing is a similar GUI, i'm just going to continue the tradition, at least for the "1.0" release. a correct, recursive solution is not what i want to prioritize given that it's almost never needed. |
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thegreek1 |
Anybody who thinks the network simulator for minetest is something worth developing? |
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lissobone1 |
I can't use the wielded item method because the item can be dropped without it being wielded, for example from the inventory screen. |
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lissobone1 |
I'll eventually figure it out. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Warr1024: yes, I wanted atan2 |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> for atan you'd have to do y/x and handle edge cases as you've said |
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Oblomov |
lua doesn't have atan2? |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Lua has atan2 |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> it was just a typo, I forgot the 2 |
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pgimeno |
<MTDiscord> <Warr1024> "angle of a vector relative to another, not the angle between two vectors" <-- what does this even mean? |
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pgimeno |
I meant that the first one is signed, the second one isn't |
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pgimeno |
if the hunter is pointing northeast and the prey is north-northeast with respect to the hunter, the required quantity is -22.5°, not 22.5° |
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pgimeno |
"angle between two vectors" is always positive |
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pgimeno |
you can always calculate two atan2's and take the difference, but then you need to apply a modulus to normalize the angle, and it's more expensive than performing a matrix transform of the target vector |
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pgimeno |
but, well, the player's angle is available so the second atan2 is not actually necessary |
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[git] TurkeyMcMac -> minetest/minetest: Test on-lighting node param1 in lighting test f073e37 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f073e37d2f3463ce5e9b456d4509f8dd57e405f5 (2022-10-13T12:46:16Z) |
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[git] TurkeyMcMac -> minetest/minetest: Use enum to define custom registry indices f7ae70c https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f7ae70c3d97645b714bc909d08769235477459fa (2022-10-13T12:46:16Z) |
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[git] fluxionary -> minetest/minetest: object ids are u16, not s16 (#12848) 6b6f886 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/6b6f886bcded0505b4286e3bd1e08f71f456b63b (2022-10-13T12:46:48Z) |
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FavoritoHJS |
nested modpacks? page joe7575, those could come in handy when refactoring techage |
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FavoritoHJS |
wait, that would be useful on its own so 3d_armor wouldn't be a separate download |
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[git] TurkeyMcMac -> minetest/minetest: Speed up find_nodes_in_area (#12845) cb725a4 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/cb725a4555951b10c05379e3d34e398dd301f69e (2022-10-13T13:35:19Z) |
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lissobone |
There was lissobone1 because I joined from my computer while already being connected from my phone. |
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lissobone |
Nevertheless, I figured out how to properly remove the UI when the radar gets dropped. |
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lissobone |
And I've also just realised that the radar will get dropped when a hunter dies, rendering him unable to detect the huntee's position until a new one is crafted. |
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lissobone |
This actially seems like a cool mechanic, but I'll make it optional in the next release, and automatic dispensing of radars will be the default. |
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lissobone |
The mod is now officially playable with some extra additions and enhancements planned. |
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lissobone |
(I haven't even tested it with other players). |
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lissobone |
All my friends and pals are especially busy at the moment, and no one could help me test that mod. |
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lissobone |
Does anyone want to? |
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lissobone |
I also made it so the radar has a special crafting recipe, though it doesn't use crafting groups yet, and it's only available in minetest game. |
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lissobone |
Hello, garywhite. |
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garywhite |
hello |
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lissobone |
Greetings. |
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lissobone |
The second greetings. |
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lissobone |
I've never greeted myself until now. |
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lissobone |
The third greetings. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> lissobone: You can open multiple Minetest clients to test it yourself |
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lissobone |
Yeah, I was thinking of it. |
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lissobone |
I even did so, but I didn't make that mod to not play it with someone else. |
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lissobone |
I'll just wait until my pals are free. |
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lissobone |
(As in freedom, not as in price). |
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muurkha |
how long are their sentences? |
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lissobone |
I thought you meant literal textual sentence length until I realized. |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Can we please stop with the ambiguities? By brain just misparsed that joke the same way lissobone's did apparently. |
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lissobone |
No, we won't stop with ambiguities because they're funny. |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> LOL |
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lissobone |
Hi, I know that you reviewed my mod. |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> hi |
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definitelya_ |
Just put "/s" at the end, I forget too, sometimes. |
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muurkha |
it would have been funnier to reply "About ten words on average, why?" |
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lissobone |
No, they're 5.7 words on average. |
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lissobone |
Has anyone else ever been hungry? |
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lissobone |
With this mod (disclaimer: this isn't an actual mod yet, just a funny idea) you'll be even hungrier just as you wanted, because all food will turn into 100% inedible slime! |
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FavoritoHJS |
Small question about mod translation: Can you translate INTO english? As it feels wrong to translate full english strings, with spaces and all... |
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fluxionary |
FavoritoHJS, of course. |
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fluxionary |
FavoritoHJS, if all the original strings are in spanish, you can give an english translation the same as for any other language |
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FavoritoHJS |
And is there a way to specify "fallback" translations? |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> pretty sure favorito is talking about generic ITEM_STONE translation keys, which afaik isn't possible with the current mod translation system |
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fluxionary |
FavoritoHJS, not sure what you mean by "fallback"? whatever the source code puts inside the `S` (get_translator) calls is the "fallback" |
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FavoritoHJS |
as in, if a string in one language isn't available, try using another |
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FavoritoHJS |
which would make generic translation keys possible by making english the fallback to everything |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> then it'll just fallback to the original string that gets passed to S(), which typically would be english but if it's a generic translation key then it will show that |
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fluxionary |
FavoritoHJS, no, it's not possible to e.g. have the strings in the source code in english, and give someone e.g. an italian translation if spanish isn't available |
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FavoritoHJS |
* screams into void * |
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fluxionary |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3712 |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> the mod translation system is slated to be replaced with gettext sometime in the future which should make such things possible |
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fluxionary |
a different question for the devs: is there a way to use `Settings` to open a file in the secure environment? |
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Krock |
> It can be created via `Settings(filename)`. |
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fluxionary |
i get a security exception if i do that |
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Krock |
use the world directory to save your stuff |
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fluxionary |
i'm not writing stuff, i'm trying to read modpack.conf files |
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Krock |
well that won't work, even if it's just reading |
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Krock |
only the main menu has access to all configuration files |
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fluxionary |
the insecure environment doesn't have access to the full file system? |
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Krock |
(or the server internally, for that matter) |
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Krock |
add your mod to the trusted list, request an insecure env and open the Settings() file during init phase and you should be fine |
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fluxionary |
ah, that should work, actually, will try it out |
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Krock |
hmmm. you might also have luck with ie.Settings(), but I've never tried that |
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fluxionary |
it doesn't exist, already |
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fluxionary |
tried |
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muurkha |
heh, italian translation if spanish isn't available would work pretty well |
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Krock |
pretty sure there's some hacky way using ie.minetest.settings(filename) or something like that by extracting the metatables |
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muurkha |
I mean if it were possible |
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Krock |
fluxionary: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/script/lua_api/l_settings.cpp#L348 |
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Krock |
after all there's apparently code to handle the security, and to make it read-only for other paths. idk why it doesn't work, tho |
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fluxionary |
is that confirming that it should work in the init phase? |
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Krock |
that's an argument that someone thought of having read-only access, but who knows if that's broken |
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fluxionary |
yeah, even during init, "Mod security: Blocked attempted read from /opt/minetest/bin/../worlds/your-land/worldmods/moreblocks/modpack.conf" |
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fluxionary |
i guess i'll report this as an issue, and just write my own settings parser in the meantime |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Add extra check in case someone tries to unbundle Lua 558cbd8 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/558cbd89fbb78be32f4fd7e944f163edd9fb7d42 (2022-10-13T21:02:11Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Get rid of LuaJIT linking workarounds af38bae https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/af38bae57f4f0f77bf2c0cf029928567e554b60b (2022-10-13T21:02:11Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Defer searching for libintl to CMake e8ee4cb https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e8ee4cb40d9ca3bb738ec2c3b320349f2a7dd733 (2022-10-13T21:02:11Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Other minor CMake improvements f680d10 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/f680d102599878b02c694127afb9260b5e53b8ed (2022-10-13T21:02:11Z) |
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is the frame_range in set_animation exclusive? because it seems so to me |
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FavoritoHJS |
shell tree |
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FavoritoHJS |
hello lesha |
