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01:16 lsab my server found a error: SQLite3 database has been locked for 1000 ms; this causes lag. Someone knows what probably causes that
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01:41 MinetestBot [git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Display whole profiler numbers up to 999999 without scientific notati… cded6a3 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/cded6a3945206e51c35adbd063f1aec3a47e310f (2023-01-25T01:40:23Z)
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01:56 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> We're getting a faster forum?
01:57 MTDiscord <MisterE> https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476
01:57 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> So you're saying it's always been slower?
01:59 FavoritoHJS Here's a silly idea to allow for Technic to stack batteries: Make empty, full and partially-filled batteries separate, and switch between them as appropriate in the chargers. Much more complex (especially when trying to deal with the fact that a stack of batteries shouldn't be discharged) but possible. See: IndustrialCraft2
02:11 lsab has somenone a link for a script to install minetes-server on Ubuntu? I lost... I remember that was posted by Calinou or rubenwardy I guess
02:11 lsab I cant found o forum
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02:33 lsab I found in the terminal history
02:34 lsab but I'm having another problem to access from android, I reinstalled but not solved
02:34 lsab my server is 5.6.1 now
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02:54 lsab is there someone? Am I using this chat inappropriately?
02:57 MTDiscord <RisingLeaf> someone is here
02:57 MTDiscord <RisingLeaf> sometimes answers may take a while
02:59 lsab thank you, sorry I'm a little anxious today
03:00 MTDiscord <RisingLeaf> np
03:12 fluxionary lsab, RE: sqlite warning, that usually means you're trying to use multiple clients at the same time. sometimes it'll work, but e.g. if you use CSM and try to start two connections at the same time, your CSM might trigger this.
03:13 fluxionary lsab, i think there's a pending issue about adding a postgres backend for CSM mod_storage
03:14 fluxionary i've also seen that when using two clients on the same server w/ local map saving enabled, though i haven't seen that in a while
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03:17 lsab fluxionary thank you. I was with this option enabled, I'll change
03:18 lsab sorry, what's the meaning of CSM?
03:18 fluxionary lsab: client side mod
03:18 fluxionary lsab: you would know if you were using them, so it's probably the local map saving.
03:19 lsab thank you, I remove that.
03:21 lsab I have another situation, the Android version doesnt work anymore. Is a question from my server or the Android game?
03:22 lsab I mean, android app dont connect to my server
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04:35 lissobone crimes
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04:46 lissobone Hello.
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07:26 MTDiscord <luatic> fluxionary: seems like invalid ObjRefs (e.g. objects got removed)?
07:27 MTDiscord <luatic> lsab, fluxionary: The reason basically are SQLite file locks: Only one can write, the others can only read. If two try to write, you'll get a stall - it won't be able to write.
07:43 MTDiscord <luatic> celeron55: Is it still indexing, or did something go wrong? Because now the forums search is broken...
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09:03 celeron55 luatic: the indexing process looks to be about to take just about forever and a two
09:03 celeron55 should probably cancel it
09:04 celeron55 i guess i'll do that
09:07 celeron55 ah yes of course it's impossible to cancel that too
09:09 celeron55 well at least it's able to use the old index while it's maybe updating the new index or stuck in some sort limbo. the search index management page certainly refuses to show up at all
09:09 celeron55 the actual search now uses the phpbb native index which is helpful
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10:13 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> The forum is fast
10:13 MTDiscord <jordan4ibanez> Wow
10:22 MTDiscord <luatic> search is working now
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10:32 celeron55 now the wikis should work reasonably well also. there was an issue with the rate limits (more specifically, in the distinction of static and dynamic content)
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10:49 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> hooray
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11:19 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> does the wiki have caching enabled? apcu or memcached caching
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12:01 Nolt Hi, I got a question how to speed up loading to be precise "Initialization elements". I have few mods that add lot of color blocks and even on a modern PC it takes long.
12:03 Nolt Maybe there is a cache or something that I need to enable on server/client side?
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13:53 lsab hello. My android minetest is showing a message of outdated version. I use this app with the kids, F-droid I guess maybe complicated to they
13:54 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> what version?
13:56 lsab I installed from Google Play
13:58 lsab https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.minetest.minetest&amp;hl=pt-br
13:58 lsab this
13:59 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> the Google play version is currently on 5.5.1, the latest is 5.6.1
14:00 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> you can find a newer version on minetest.net or on f-droid
14:01 lsab I use in a school, the most of players are kids, so I think Google Play is better to recommend for they
14:02 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Being able to get the correct version from Google Play instead of having to do any kind of side-loading (even if it's not that hard to enable) would definitely be really nice...
14:02 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Hopefully we can fix the Play issues in an upcoming release?
14:03 MTDiscord <Warr1024> I thought I heard that whatever held up 5.6 might be fixable for 5.7m
14:03 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> 5.7.0's hopefully coming to play if the privacy policy issue is resolved
14:03 lsab I already change my server 3 times, I started with 5.7 and now I'm trying with 5.5.1, I think this error was caused by server
14:07 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Hmm, crap, I just realized that if MT can't update the Android app again for 5.7, then I'm still locked out of using 5.6 features, and I've got a pretty decent queue of things to change this time around...
14:08 rubenwardy The built-in update check fix is disabled on Android, the error will be from the server
14:08 rubenwardy we could release 5.6 to Android anytime the privacy policy is publish
14:08 rubenwardy well, ignoring the link from the app thing
14:09 rubenwardy also, that error is specifically probably coming from i3
14:11 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> ah i3
14:11 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> if that's the case then you can downgrade i3 to 1.7.4, it's the last version that still supported Minetest 5.4-5.5
14:16 lsab I'll try that
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14:25 lsab I'm trying without i3 and now I can connect from Android version. I don't know how to dowgrade i3 lol
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14:26 MTDiscord <Warr1024> From Android, getting a specific old version might be a bit non-trivial, unless things are very carefully metadata tagged in CDB, which it sounds like they must not be, to have gotten into this situation already.
14:32 rubenwardy Warr1024 - the server is 5.6 and the client is 5.5. The i3 is correctly running on 5.6, but then shows an error to the client
14:32 rubenwardy i3 is tagged correctly and is installed on the correct version. i3 then doesn't let 5.5 clients join
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14:59 lsab36 what's the channel on discord is apropriated for this topic?
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15:04 rubenwardy #general
15:04 rubenwardy or #servers
15:04 lsab sorry. I dont know what happened I disconnect
15:11 lsab I will continue for there as hephaestus
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15:40 MTDiscord <MisterE> I3 requires clients to be 5.6.1, and kicks old clients
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17:08 lissobone 8
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18:06 mazes_80 fluxionary: does choppy include some routine to find the "root" node of a tree ?
18:07 fluxionary mazes_80, it mostly has rough tree boundaries specified. it looks for the "top" more than it looks for the "root"
18:07 mazes_80 like lumberjack so
18:07 mazes_80 ok thanks
18:08 fluxionary does lumberjack do that? i haven't played w/ that mod in a while
18:11 mazes_80 it just look nodes near and until top is reached. at beginning you can only cut from the top, then gaining point by cutting and replanting allows you to dig tree with axes in one hit
18:13 mazes_80 but that was not really about lumberjack that I asked this question
18:13 MinetestBot [git] fluxionary -> minetest/minetest_game: Ensure chests close properly (#2965) ec2f57d https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/ec2f57db0e12f7bf5dfe409c6815491a40c2a499 (2023-01-25T18:10:32Z)
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18:14 mazes_80 I know it a bit though because I fixed one or two things (pipeworks and digtron support)
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18:43 kabou https://git.minetest.land/MineClone2/MineClone2/issues/3306
18:49 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> someone reinvented the minetest vs code extension wheel? cool
18:50 mrkubax10 this is actually quite interesting since this will work with any editor supporting LSP
18:51 MTDiscord <GoodClover> heh, tried to do that myself a few months back and decided it wasn't worth it
18:56 lissobone VS as in versus or the infamous text editor by microsoft?
18:57 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> obviously I mean minetest versus code... 😒
18:57 MTDiscord <ROllerozxa> no, of course it's "vs code", visual studio code
18:57 lissobone I hoped that it is versus code.
18:58 lissobone That would have been better (and FUNnier!).
18:58 lissobone Now I am sad...
19:00 MTDiscord <luatic> mrkubax: it may support any editor, but it locks you in with sumneko and its annotations
19:00 MTDiscord <luatic> (and I don't like sumneko)
19:00 lissobone "Minetest versus code" sounds like the source code for some minetest versus mod.
19:00 lissobone Versus battles in minetest coming this October???
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19:01 lissobone Minecraft VS Minetest rap battle?!?!
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19:08 lissobone If I actually make the Baba-Yaga mod, I'll have to voice her somehow.
19:08 lissobone (This will be my favorite part).
19:29 DeepT anyone know how to use the gull (tamed) or bats (tamed) with mobs_sky for mobs_redo?
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19:31 DeepT currently ive tried placing it on various block types and the item cannot seem to be placed anywhere
19:38 MTDiscord <Warr1024> A game running on 5.6 not letting 5.5 clients join is not wholly unreasonable.  A single mod, however, among many others, that blocks an entire class of users from joining (and is not specifically added for that purpose) is probably a bit much.
19:40 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Like, that's not the kind of feature that's good to "bury" like that; a server admin needs to really be aware of it if it's going to be enabled.
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