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| 15:11 |
sfan5 |
pushing in 5 minutes https://0x0.st/KMdi.txt |
| 15:14 |
Krock |
sure |
| 15:17 |
sfan5 |
release after that? |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
release after that |
| 15:20 |
Krock |
pushing to a separate branch to generate the builds for testing... |
| 15:20 |
sfan5 |
I will check #16514 using google translate and then we can merge it too |
| 15:20 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16514 -- Update builtin Bulgarian translation by StoyanDimitrov |
| 15:27 |
sfan5 |
done |
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| 15:31 |
Krock |
ok. merging it. |
| 15:31 |
Krock |
thanks for checking the translation. |
| 15:33 |
Krock |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/tree/TEMPORARY_5.14.0 |
| 15:47 |
Krock |
the windows build is OK |
| 15:53 |
Krock |
~tell SFENCE Would you please be so nice to provide signed macOS builds for 5.14.0? Thank you. |
| 15:53 |
ShadowBot |
Krock: OK. |
| 15:53 |
SFENCE |
Krock: Working on it |
| 15:53 |
Krock |
oh you're here. it seems that tab autocomplete has failed on me |
| 15:54 |
Krock |
sfan5: I do not have the permissions to merge https://github.com/luanti-org/docs.luanti.org/pull/279 - could you please push that button, or review? |
| 15:56 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> i went ahead and merged it |
| 15:57 |
Krock |
alright. thx. |
| 15:57 |
Krock |
the forum post is done too, so from my side that's the end. Open points: Android build, and notify the package maintainers according to https://docs.luanti.org/for-engine-devs/releasing-luanti/ |
| 15:58 |
Krock |
the usual, so to say. |
| 15:58 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ill open a draft pr for the website this afternoon, will have to wait till all releases are listed |
| 15:58 |
Krock |
ah right. the link checker is not happy otherwise :3 |
| 16:00 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> could someone (maybe you Krock) make a 5.14.0 tag for the latest commit in https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti_android_deps, so I can open an issue over at f-droid about the new update |
| 16:00 |
Krock |
sure |
| 16:01 |
Krock |
@rollerozxa done |
| 16:02 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> thanks |
| 16:02 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> opened the issue at fdroid: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/issues/3657 |
| 16:03 |
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Topic for #luanti-dev is now Luanti (fka Minetest) core development and maintenance. Chit chat goes to #luanti. https://dev.luanti.org/ https://irc.luanti.org/ https://github.com/luanti-org |
| 16:04 |
user2_ |
i'm testing 5.14.0 on arm64 and x86 linux rn |
| 16:05 |
sfan5 |
well that's too late now ;) |
| 16:07 |
Desour |
+= 0.01 \o/ |
| 16:16 |
SFENCE |
Do we have some a standard way how to communicate known issues to users? |
| 16:17 |
SFENCE |
Because of #16499 |
| 16:17 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16499 -- No game sounds on macOS Tahoe 26 |
| 16:20 |
Krock |
not very standard, but logging warnings would be appropriate |
| 16:21 |
Krock |
or if it's for compile-time, then #if + #error preprocessor directives |
| 16:23 |
SFENCE |
macos signed builds ara avaliable in release. |
| 16:23 |
Krock |
great. Thanks. |
| 16:24 |
user2_ |
well, i can confirm 5.14.0 runs on arm64 + debian 12 |
| 16:24 |
SFENCE |
Something like warning text on download web site, can be enough. |
| 16:36 |
sfan5 |
merging #16535, #16526 in 15m |
| 16:36 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16535 -- Enable strip_color_codes by default by sfan5 |
| 16:36 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16526 -- Require 'give' priv for /pulverize and /clearinv by Wuzzy2 |
| 16:36 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti-org.github.io/pull/360 website pr, pinged ruben for andriod builds |
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| 16:53 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Why was https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/16212 closed? @luatic |
| 16:54 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> And why does https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/16096 have Possible close?? |
| 16:55 |
Krock |
former - idk. latter seems to have no progress |
| 16:55 |
sfan5 |
i marked all PRs that were open for a long time and had no progress with 'possible close' a while ago |
| 16:56 |
Krock |
closing PRs due to inactivity seems harsh at first, but if changes are needed and no progress is made in a while, then it's often easier to close them until they're picked up again |
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| 16:56 |
sfan5 |
not much point keeping drafts open |
| 16:57 |
sfan5 |
if you want a commitment that the team supports a feature then that'd be an issue |
| 16:57 |
Krock |
such that the Pull request list mostly contains PRs that can be reviewed, or reviewed soon. |
| 16:57 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> We also need #16468 |
| 16:57 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16468 -- Update roadmap by Zughy |
| 16:57 |
cheapie |
re: #16526 - is the idea for MTG to then override these back to being priv-less (since that makes sense in that game) or should I be prepared to do so in a separate mod? |
| 16:57 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16526 -- Require 'give' priv for /pulverize and /clearinv by Wuzzy2 |
| 16:58 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> I'm not at home currently, so feel free to adjust the wording |
| 16:58 |
sfan5 |
cheapie: feel free to propose that in MTG |
| 16:58 |
Krock |
cheapie: I think MTG should customize that |
| 16:58 |
Krock |
however, do require "interact" at least. |
| 16:59 |
cheapie |
interact is fair |
| 17:01 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Its not even worth giving people anything to look forward to in blog posts at this point, nothing useful ever gets finished :/ |
| 17:01 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> (this is an exaggeration, useful things get merged all the time, just seldom ground-breaking or relevant to many) |
| 17:03 |
Krock |
yes, we've had more spectacular releases in the past |
| 17:03 |
sfan5 |
I think the draft PRs likely to be featured in a blog post are likely to be exactly those that need much work (and thus might fall stale in the meantime) |
| 17:03 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Is there any quantifiable reason many of these PRs are stagnating? |
| 17:03 |
Krock |
and those were longer in development. currently we're at 3 months, and nothing much happened. |
| 17:04 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> The 3 month cycle isnt really relevant when these PRs are stale for that long anyway |
| 17:05 |
cheapie |
sfan5: https://github.com/luanti-org/minetest_game/issues/3214 should work, if the idea gets rejected I'll just throw together a quick mod for it |
| 17:06 |
sfan5 |
I usually only open a PR when something is finished and mergeable, so my PRs would probably never make it into the blog posts "upcoming features" section |
| 17:06 |
sfan5 |
(I assume) |
| 17:07 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> That isnt a fair comparison; You are a dev, you automatically have one approval and are almost guaranteed to have your additions merged. Others have to open a PR to determine if their work is even acceptable. |
| 17:08 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> The matrix, scene color, and morph animation PRs were dead before 5.13.0, FWIW. |
| 17:09 |
sfan5 |
I'm not complaining that the blog posts are being unfair towards my contributions, just saying that there's probably an unfortunate bias |
| 17:10 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> I couldnt put your PRs in the "looking forward to" section even if I wanted to-- if you dont open them until they are ready to be merged, obviously there is nothing to look forward to |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
yes that's what I mean |
| 17:11 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Its not really a bias if I have no other options |
| 17:12 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> seems like the discussion is getting side tracked from greenxeniths orginal point |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
as an exception I did open #15968 and it will surely be finished within 3 months |
| 17:12 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/15968 -- Array textures proof-of-concept by sfan5 |
| 17:12 |
sfan5 |
either way I think it's good if the looking-forward section is contexualized more as "some people are playing around with XYZ feature and it might get into the engine at some point". so that nobody is disappointed. |
| 17:13 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Sure, I agree, but wsor is correct; The blog section is a symptom. I want to know why every single thing I put in there (pretty much, for the last few blog cycles) has stagnated |
| 17:14 |
sfan5 |
development is hard |
| 17:14 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i think you know green, its the age old problem of open a pr it may get merged in 4 years, or killed |
| 17:15 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Thank you for a new motivator to fix that |
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user2_ |
5.14.0 runs on my old x86 machine (not x86_64) with debian 12 |
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Desour |
there was a meeting scheduled for now btw |
| 18:18 |
Krock |
the meeting point would be the release. the release is still ongoing. so I don't see much need for a meeting. |
| 18:20 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> (I will have the blog post PR up within the hour) |
| 18:54 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Weird that it is now better to manually generate images and dynamic_add_media with caching disabled than using texture modifiers for repeatedly-generated textures |
| 18:55 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> I'm actually not clear on what ephemeral is even for now |
| 18:56 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Hm, I guess it is more about server caching |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> https://github.com/luanti-org/blog/pull/171 |
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luatic |
greenxenith: i'll try to get back to picking up those PRs again as soon as i'm done with my bachelor thesis, so in about 3 weeks (my thesis deadline is sooner, but i also have to give a presentation a bit later) |
| 20:14 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> This is known, which is why it confuses me that the PRs were closed. They aren't dead, just on hold. |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Blog post PR has media/cover image now. A quick glance from pretty much anyone would be appreciated |
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MTDiscord |
<a.corp.serot> Cool build in cover image |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Just came home, #16468 still open with the new release out and the milestone closed. What the fuck? |
| 23:07 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16468 -- Update roadmap by Zughy |
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