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MTDiscord |
<prolller> but where is 32bit map support? |
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MTDiscord |
<et086> im afraid none of the core devs care about that |
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MTDiscord |
<et086> kinda sadly as it would be cool, though probably with little uses |
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sfan5 |
should we update the website already? android can come later |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> I'm merging #16468 myself later if nobody says anything. I find this radio silence highly disrespectful and I'm officially pissed of being ignored when I'm investing a lot of my time in all of this |
| 15:44 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16468 -- Update roadmap by Zughy |
| 15:50 |
sfan5 |
so you're ignoring Desour's review comment? |
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jonadab |
The one about dehardcoding, that got warnocked two weeks ago? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> sfan5: nobody said anything about that comment, there is no reaction. How am I supposed to know if devs want that extended version or not? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> There was a "meeting" yesterday and some of you, instead of bringing that up, decided to ignore it and just proceed with the release. How is this my fault now? |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
finding out whose fault this is is not important |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
to the topic: in every other PR the submitter just does whatever a single coredevs says (unless discussion happens). I expected that here too |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
or if not then it should be stated explicitly that you're waiting for some kind of consensus |
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jonadab |
@Zughy Nobody _including you_ responded to what Desour said. He and others may have assumed this meant you had no objection to what he said. |
| 16:47 |
Krock |
FWIW I support Desour's suggestions. |
| 16:48 |
Krock |
and like any other (regular) PR, this one too needs two approvals (or one + you), assuming there are no objections from other core devs |
| 16:54 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Me yesterday: https://irc.luanti.org/luanti-dev/2025-10-05#i_6288805 |
| 16:54 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> and we're missing the point here: everyone assumed it was safe to release without bothering that a PR/issue was still left there |
| 16:55 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> anyone could have tagged me asking for clarifiactions, if my IRC message was ambiguous |
| 16:55 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> *clarifications |
| 16:56 |
Krock |
please mark PRs as Blocker or High Priority if they have to be in a release. Furthermore, I don't think this has to be release-bound since the development happens on GitHub, and thus, local copies of such workflows or project decisions are best viewed online - which is the master branch. |
| 16:57 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> :\ it was inside the 5.14 milestone and the whole point of that was to make it happen right after 5.14, how was that not clear enough? |
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sfan5 |
after? |
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Krock |
there is afaik no process defined for "right after" |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> like, put inside 5.14 and then become effective right after the launch |
| 16:59 |
Krock |
the whole Luanti development is like "it's ready when it's ready". |
| 17:04 |
Krock |
are there any animated tools or items, by the way? |
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sfan5 |
that's not actually supported, I think |
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sfan5 |
except for nodes, then: flowing water? |
| 17:08 |
Krock |
hmm. I thought I had seen a glowing pickaxe once.. might be misremembering. |
| 17:08 |
Krock |
ah #15979 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/15979 -- Add `inventory_image_animation` and `wield_image_animation` by cx384 |
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SFENCE |
Is it expected behaviors, that if I set in on_timer time to lesser value than server step, it calls on_timer function multiple times in one server step? |
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SFENCE |
Luanti 5.13 |
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sfan5 |
probably not |
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SFENCE |
So, possible bug. I will try if it work same in 5.14. |
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Krock |
that should not happen at all |
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SFENCE |
Ok, looks like false alarm. Error was in mod code. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Krock: the whole point of me, the roadmap, the schedule and the aspiring Comms team is to avoid "it's ready when it's ready" and if I remember correctly a similar discussion already happened in the past with you and GreenXenith (can't bother to look for it) |
| 20:27 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Anyway, still missing the point here: yesterday I remembered in -dev about that PR missing. My message was ignored, the PR wasn't touched (as in, also kept in the milestone), LT 5.14 released and the milestone closed |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Around 11 PM I posted another message, but again, nothing. Now, instead of a "my bad", I hear people clutching at straws. Like, for fuck sake, I don't accept that |
| 20:29 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> I respect what you do, have some respect for what I do as well |
| 20:33 |
sfan5 |
what I don't understand is why it's a big deal for the PR to not be in 5.14 |
| 20:34 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> from the original issue: https://imgur.com/a/ZdvVEW4 |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
then aren't we a whole release cycle overdue? or do you mean "after 5.14"? |
| 20:36 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> more straightfowardly: if we (silently) agree on something, I expect that something to be respected. Now the risk is seeing that PR merged in a week or so, and what am I supposed to as a triager? Use the old or the new roadmap as a reference? It only creates confusion |
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sfan5 |
but putting that aside because it's not relevant: so what? this isn't a critical bug, or anything that impacts the finished product at all |
| 20:38 |
sfan5 |
handling of issues during a roadmap "transition" is something I trust you can handle reasonably with your intuition |
| 20:38 |
sfan5 |
s/something/a mere edge case that/ |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
we should not delay updating the roadmap any further of course |
| 20:40 |
sfan5 |
I could understand if you were upset that we mostly ignored the PR for the whole September, but I don't understand how the 24 hours after 5.14 are somehow much worse |
| 20:40 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> Because I expected that to be discussed in a meeting or something, within 5.14 |
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sfan5 |
I think this is also why nobody in -dev reacted, because we were busy with more important things (the release) |
| 20:42 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Zughy> actually, right before releasing, as it should have become effective from 5.15-dev onwards |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Zughy: #16208 is a bug. I will test again tonight but I believe it is still an issue |
| 22:40 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16208 -- Negative glow does not work as advertised |
| 22:40 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> (Acc sfan5 I guess) |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> -A |
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