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MTDiscord |
<prounce> no they just need to aim for 10x the fps they want the average user to get |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> That'd be very difficult to make work even if GPU was the only constraint. |
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<prounce> I get over 1400 fps in minecraft with a fairly mid range build |
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sfan5 |
cheapie: you think the view range is too high? |
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sfan5 |
!tell ireallyhateirc try to isolate the condition that causes the problem: try it with a dummy backend / the world in RAM, try it on a LAN server, try it with an empty minetest.conf, etc. |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: I'll pass that on when ireallyhateirc is around |
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sfan5 |
!tell ireallyhateirc I have hardware specs similar/worse than yours and this doesn't happen for me. AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (6C12T) | Radeon RX 6600 | 16GB RAM | 8-year old SATA SSD |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: I'll pass that on when ireallyhateirc is around |
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cheapie |
sfan5: In plain MTG with a brand-new world with nothing in it it's fine, but once you add mods and a few buildings it's a pretty bad experience for anyone on lower-end hardware (which seems to be most players) unless they turn the view range down. |
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cheapie |
Which might not seem like a big deal, but most of the players I talk to are seemingly unaware they even *can* turn it down |
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sfan5 |
you can't do it without leaving the game in android for one (afaik) |
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sfan5 |
it heavily depends on what kind of building. if it's in the style of VE-Creative's spawn area then yeah that's no surprise. |
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sfan5 |
sure the engine should be rendering it more efficiently, but it currently doesn't and I think that's more of an extreme case |
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cheapie |
Yeah, VE-C is a bit extreme, I still see the same issues elsewhere though, just less so |
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sfan5 |
where is "elsewhere"? |
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cheapie |
Other servers |
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cheapie |
(like, every other server I've been on, except the ones with nothing built) |
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MinetestBot |
ireallyhateirc: Apr-15 08:31 UTC <sfan5> try to isolate the condition that causes the problem: try it with a dummy backend / the world in RAM, try it on a LAN server, try it with an empty minetest.conf, etc. |
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MinetestBot |
ireallyhateirc: Apr-15 08:38 UTC <sfan5> I have hardware specs similar/worse than yours and this doesn't happen for me. AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (6C12T) | Radeon RX 6600 | 16GB RAM | 8-year old SATA SSD |
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ireallyhateirc |
sfan5, I'll try this. In fact a my base settings I usually use make the lags more apparent. I switched to default settings in hope that someone would reproduce it easily but nah. |
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ireallyhateirc |
I'd like to hear more about dummy backend, as for world in RAM I guess I'll read about making RAM disks |
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sfan5 |
dummy backend is "keep the world database in ram, it gets lost on exit" |
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sfan5 |
ramdisk is mount - /some/path -t tmpfs |
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sfan5 |
on some distros /tmp itself is a tmpfs |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I've heard that when you have spare memory Linux will put disk blocks in cache |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> this is not that efficient in the end because the blocks are compressed and need to go through compression/decompression between memory and storage |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I suppose that Redis helps with this? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> *the Luanti mapblocks are compressed |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> that is, would Redis be a better improvement than putting sqlite on tmpfs? |
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sfan5 |
since in this case we just want to test there's no point in using redis |
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sfan5 |
I also don't think the linux disk caching behavior is related here |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> true, what I've asked is not really helpful to troubleshooting |
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tzenfore |
Hello! |
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ireallyhateirc |
Ok so small update: these lags are several times more frequent while in a boat compared to just flying |
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ireallyhateirc |
which is interesting because flying is 2-3 times faster and so it means more blocks generated |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> Some nodedefintions in MTG have a node=1 group. What does it mean? Example on xpanes:door_steel_bar: https://github.com/luanti-org/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/xpanes/init.lua#L226 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<grorp> overrides the category/tab it's shown on in MTG's creative inventory formspec iirc |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfence -> luanti-org/luanti: Expand usable range of fill_ratio to about 2.3e-10 (#16026) a9c197b https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/a9c197b1e5d7265e88219aacef53965a22257fda (2025-04-15T19:42:12Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Reuse some allocations in ClientMap rendering 37d2bc8 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/37d2bc8a5fad4fe84b1361ba38c1c9faac2c1660 (2025-04-15T19:42:39Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Expand workarounds for format inconsistency with BGRA8888 extension o… cf07b56 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/cf07b56235dfd14148f614bf535838023dbef143 (2025-04-15T19:42:47Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Make ETLF_FLIP_Y_UP_RTT work for texture download on GLES 04e8274 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/04e82749db3c3d08d525e2ab05296da593c27010 (2025-04-15T19:42:47Z) |
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