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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> the data loss of the forums is NOT acceptable, and that's part of why celeron55 feels particularly burdened. I regularly search for forum results, and now the site is being DDoSed and I can't get those |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> but of course, LLMs are supposed to embody all of that knowledge. So they're holding to ransom eh? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> the forums have already been wiped at least once |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> see the sokimine? archive |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> can I? do you have a link? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?t=22451 / https://sorcerykid.github.io/minetest-forums/ |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> thank you |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> if you want to actually use the forums, should just write yourself a script that redirects all requests to it, to the internet archive. faster and your probably have a better chance of getting the content 😏 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I have the timezone advantage, it's late at night for me that the artificial traffic really starts to hurt usually |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> hmm, does the forum have rss or something? wouldnt be that hard to just scrape the forum and rehost it |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> fairly sure it does have an RSS, yes |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> there's also https://forum.luanti.org/search.php?search_id=active_topics |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> alternatively i could just scrape the listing page, extract all posts daily or something on the top page assuming its not going to have more posts than that, and update those |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> if the bots weren't braindead they'd make accounts and scrape that every minute or so |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> but more effort than i want to alot to it atm |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> obviously the post rate isn't a minute but they obsessively want to check for new stuff apparently... |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> you would want some mechanism to delete the 50% of spam posts that I deal with as well... |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> since they wouldn't be automatically dropped from the archive, you'd have to check a post is still there after its first 24h or so |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> go full roller and write my own forum with blackjack and <nsfw/children> |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> but nah, actual time i want to spend on luanti web stuff should be sunk into skinsdb |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> true |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> or docs/main website, but refering here to actual core web stuff |
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repetitivestrain |
9ff38bd transforms mineclonia's moon into an ugly excrescence with a bluish border |
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MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> when did that convention become standard? |
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repetitivestrain |
Blockhead256: i cannot use the forum's own reporting system as it simply redirects me to a 404 page |
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repetitivestrain |
but this appears to be spam: https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?p=446147 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> yes, the reports system is broken on the front end, the form goes to the wrong URL. thank you for the report |
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repetitivestrain |
Any time |
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sfan5 |
<repetitivestrain> 9ff38bd transforms mineclonia's moon into an ugly excrescence with a bluish border |
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sfan5 |
working as intended. if you don't want a tonemap don't set one |
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repetitivestrain |
there wasn't one in 5.11 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> right in the commit log: |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> > This fixes a regression introduced by commit 58ccf0b |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> git describe --tags 58ccf0b -> 5.10.0-26-g58ccf0ba8 |
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repetitivestrain |
Hmm I don't recall how it was in 5.10 |
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repetitivestrain |
but i should be very surprised if the moon was blue there |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> only one way to find out |
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repetitivestrain |
yes, i'm building 5.10 as we speak |
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sfan5 |
find out anything yet? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> Blockhead256: new spam user "hrgurus" - no posts yet but their description is an ad |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> we have many of those every day that never post anything, and they've basically never been deleted. The user list is a lost cause |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> oh... |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> https://forum.luanti.org/memberlist.php?g=7&mode=group&start=23760 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> i'd bet 90% of users with a link are ads |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> the vast majority of the registered accounts are useless. But really, the member list is pretty much useless too |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> there should really be a regex blacklist |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> but then you'd risk losing like 2 users |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> and block the <first name><number> ones too |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> yes, false positive. Also the scunthorpe problem |
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celeron55 |
i wish forum moderators could just write php themselves to do all that automation |
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celeron55 |
it's stupid to have to do any of that by hand |
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sfan5 |
i did write some python automation to mass-delete spam accounts |
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sfan5 |
because the phpbb builtin stuff wouldn't work |
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sfan5 |
https://0x0.st/8Rxw.png html parsing isn't exactly fun tho |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> akismet does help with detection, as does the stop forum spam database |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> ban hammer makes bans easy |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> only way it could be more streamlined when I'm checking the unread post list is maybe one-click ban. Bit risky. And faster pageloads (in my dreams) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> ah, I, uh.. overlooked the recent context of spam-accounts without posts |
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repetitivestrain |
sfan5: yes: the moon in 5.10 is noticably less bluish than in 5.12, though there is a tint that is not present in 5.11 |
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repetitivestrain |
but i wanted to debug the issue myself awhile |
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sfan5 |
screenshot? |
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sfan5 |
it is of course possible that we messed up something else |
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repetitivestrain |
i'm uploading a set right now |
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repetitivestrain |
https://ibb.co/album/R7yczM |
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repetitivestrain |
on the left is 5.12, and on the right is 5.10 |
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sfan5 |
and you have a moon_tonemap.png? |
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repetitivestrain |
there's no file by this name in mineclonia |
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sfan5 |
do you set your own tonemap? |
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repetitivestrain |
no, the only moon properties we alter are texture and visible |
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sfan5 |
then it should all look identical in 5.10, 5.11, 5.12 and 5.13-dev |
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repetitivestrain |
that would be ideal, but unfortunately it is not so |
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repetitivestrain |
i'll attempt to reduce this to a single mod tomorrow |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> something very strange is happening on the forums: sometimes a slow page load, sometimes a 502 bad gateway very quickly |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> it's like a 50/50 per pageload |
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gideonstar |
using time_speed I can change the speed of the full cycle. but is there any chance to make nights shorter and days longer for example? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/blob/5.12.0/doc/lua_api.md?plain=1#L8939 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/8964 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I don't know of an out-of-the-box mod, sorry |
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gideonstar |
the first one looks promising |
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gideonstar |
let's take a look into building a simple mod |
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gideonstar |
nevermind, there is a mod |
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[MatrxMT] |
<leca> Quick question. Is there really no other ways for making switched on/off block change it's texture? For example, a burning furnace and an idling one, do I need to define two nodes and swap them? |
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sfan5 |
there is not |
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[MatrxMT] |
<leca> Thanks |
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sfan5 |
interesting fact: Minetest was calling itself a game engine as early as 2012 |
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sfan5 |
also the website design has not substantially changed since 2015 |
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