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user333_ |
that's on 5.15.0-dev-0f943e581 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I only asked about what Minecraft has because I want to raid them for potential ideas. This should be obvious from the amount of shade I throw at Mineclone-family games for being raw clones |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> If anything, having first-class map downloading and launching features can be another relatively easy win over Minecraft, like the main killer feature of not having to do any pre-download to join a server |
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repetitivestrain |
Blockhead256: and in my not so humble estimation, the mcl*s don't deserve the flak you throw at them |
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repetitivestrain |
:-) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I'll never say they're technologically deficient, only unoriginal :) |
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repetitivestrain |
yes, but conversely minecraft _is_ original, and therefore we're still realizing an original conception, just with different technology and with a moral advantage |
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[MatrxMT] |
<twrightsman> pgimeno: Thanks for looking more into this. I will see what I can debug further, worst case Debian drops the Luanti i386/i686 build, since the architecture has reduced support within Debian now. |
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celeron55 |
"reduced support" is kind of a silly term as what happens is nothing works when you don't fix the weakest link |
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[MatrxMT] |
<twrightsman> celeron55: I don't understand your message |
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[MatrxMT] |
<twrightsman> Ah, now I follow. Yep, I guess the plan of course is to ditch 32-bit x86 eventually so they just need to fix enough bugs to keep the lights on until someone pulls the plug. |
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pgimeno |
as I suspected, the tests pass with CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug |
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pgimeno |
apparently, in the failing test setRotationRadians is receiving some ridiculous arguments (in the order of -1e+34). This might well be a compiler bug. |
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sfan5 |
compiler bugs are less likely than you think |
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[MatrxMT] |
<twrightsman> pgimeno: Shouldn't setRotationRadians be able to handle very large values like that? I assume those are possible random values |
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pgimeno |
twrightsman in that test they are limited to 0..2*PI |
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SwissalpS |
does anybody have an idea how to find mods that set 'data' field in itemstack meta? |
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pgimeno |
and yes in theory |
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[MatrxMT] |
<twrightsman> Ah sorry pgimeno, I see that bound limit now |
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Elouin |
Hi, is it fine to use a single database for world/player/auth data in postgres or does it need to be a distinct one for each? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> depends on if there are table name overlaps at least. But I think it's not hard to set up multiple 'bases on the same instance |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> https://docs.luanti.org/for-server-hosts/database-backends/ |
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pgimeno |
twrightsman: My bad, it seems some kind of problem in gdb or my use of it. The argument to setRotationRadians seems to be OK. However, there's this conundrum. With this patch: http://www.formauri.es/personal/pgimeno/pastes/catch_setRotationRadians.diff a single line is printed on every run, and it has reasonable arguments. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> it's not always a good idea to use postgres for everything though |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/16181 |
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pgimeno |
(Sorry about the lack of indentation, it's how I distinguish debug code so I can easily locate and remove it after debugging) |
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pgimeno |
with "reasonable" defined as "within the intended range of 0..2*PI" |
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[MatrxMT] |
<twrightsman> But the test still fails? |
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sfan5 |
Elouin: best to use separate ones |
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pgimeno |
yes |
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pgimeno |
the NaN propagates all the way to the matrix, and the test fails when comparing the matrices |
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[MatrxMT] |
<twrightsman> Ah duh I misread your code, it is printed because you made it print when NaN |
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pgimeno |
yes, again sorry about the lack of indentation |
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[MatrxMT] |
<twrightsman> All good, your advance warning helped me |
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Elouin |
sfan5: okay. thanks. |
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Menchers |
lol nice nick ireallyhateirc |
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ireallyhateirc |
thanks |
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* Menchers |
wonders if idespisediscord is taken yet |
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jonadab |
Likely. |
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dudz |
ircisgreat |
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Menchers |
also hi jonadab |
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Menchers |
I only knew you from the nethack channels |
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Menchers |
lol |
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jonadab |
IRC has the advantage of being an open protocol, so you aren't stuck with some horrific proprietary app like Discord. |
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Menchers |
yup |
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Menchers |
client I'm using this week: quassel |
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jonadab |
irssi is at least decently configurable, mostly. |
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Menchers |
still prefer hexchat but it's unmaintained now |
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dudz |
weechat here |
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Menchers |
tried to like irssi |
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Menchers |
might give it another go |
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Menchers |
ability to run in a detached session on a shell server is a definite plus |
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Menchers |
wouldn't need ZNC |
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Menchers |
at least a couple luanti servers are IRC clients :D |
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Menchers |
your-land.de has an IRC client mod |
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dudz |
havnt worked out how to buy a hiuse there yet |
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dudz |
*house |
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jonadab |
Yeah, irssi in a screen session is just easier to setup than znc or whatever. |
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erle |
given that the dithering filter can be like 20% of the framerate i find it at least a bit weird that it is turned on by default |
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erle |
attempting to fix banding artifacts in postprocessing but not wanting gamma-correct rendering (which just *may* reduce the amount of banding, WHO KNOWS lol) is a bit weird though |
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erle |
as i understand it … unlike i am mistaken (enlighten me if you know better!), gamma-incorrect rendering will basically always reduce the dynamic range (which leads to more banding) |
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