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* user333_ |
finds a cheater while moderating -_- |
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greeter |
and now you get to moderate a cheater while finding |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> nobody uses Konversation |
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user333_ |
average cheater, noclipping without noclip priv, has an unusual version string, denies it, etc |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> Yo |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> Aren't u the same guy who was sending unusual requests to the acedia backend |
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user333_ |
me? |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> I believe so |
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user333_ |
how so? |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> Do you have an acedia account by the name of "someguy"? |
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user333_ |
Yes. |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> That's all I needed to know |
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user333_ |
Continue explaining. |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> What for |
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user333_ |
So i know how much you know |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> Probably more than you'd want me to know |
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user333_ |
Tell me it all via PM. |
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pgimeno |
AFAIK the discord bridge does not allow PM |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> It doesn't |
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user333_ |
get a real IRC client |
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user333_ |
or tell me here |
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mrcheese |
:P |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> I'd rather not |
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MTDiscord |
<adrian530> Making people doubt is rather fun to some extent |
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user333_ |
Allright. |
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erle |
some guy |
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erle |
user |
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erle |
how descriptive the names are |
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user333_ |
very :P |
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user333_ |
although... my username on CTF is... quite unique |
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user333_ |
adrian530: Good luck. |
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Guest58 |
Hello! I'm limafresh and I wanted to ask if everything is okay with my mod. I uploaded a mod to ContentDB, weighing only 13 KB, and it hasn't been accepted for five days. Sorry if this is a stupid or inappropriate question; this is my first time uploading a mod. |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ill look tonight the size is irrelevant unless its huge |
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bgstack15 |
Guest58: the mods are all volunteers, and they have to find spare time to moderate all the cool stuff that comes in to ContentDB. 5 days is within the realm of normal that I've seen. |
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bgstack15 |
I would get concerned after probably 14 days. |
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Guest58 |
Okay, fine. Is it possible to update the mod with new commits (I have a rolling model) during the review period, or is it not recommended? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> sure, your new release will be delayed till its approved unless you manually make it |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> bgstack15: the average approval time is 3 days, and its usually when i do them |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i had other things this weekend, so somewhat delayed 🤷 |
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bgstack15 |
wsor4035: In my experience, the average time was way longer than 3 days. |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> thats your experience, not the stats, so 🤷 |
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bgstack15 |
You might have more data than I do, but my data across the 8 mods shows that the wait time was about 7 days. |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i mean, given i approve most of them and see the numbers 🤷 |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> at any rate, still doing better than the years the engine takes, so not super worried. would like to get back to where i used to be at some point |
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bgstack15 |
Well, it's definitely been my experience that it takes longer than 3 days. Perhaps I've always been on the long side of things. Everybody knows that mathematical mean has limited usefulness anyways. |
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bgstack15 |
wsor4035: I'm not familiar with all of your contributions; are you a core dev too? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> lol, no, havent fallen for that trap |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> its currently 3.2 days on average for turn around |
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bgstack15 |
Why do you call being a core dev a trap? (Getting sucked into the politics?) |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> so uh, im a contentdb mod/editor (and do most of that), run directly and indirectly a number of servers, part of mt-mods, this discord mod, docs project member/"lead" sorta, website by proxy of docs |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i think thats all of the luanti ones? |
| 17:58 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> might have forgotten something |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i prefer to stay in the shadows |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> oh, also engine triager (zughy does more than me) |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> so a partial indirect answer to your question :p |
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bgstack15 |
Ah, so you help curate the really useful lua_api.md ? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> docs.luanti.org |
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bgstack15 |
I think that stuff is the basis of that docs.luanti.org but I find it easier to navigate just the giant markdown file |
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bgstack15 |
Oh, no that is different. I use docs.luanti.org too! Thank you for your contributions there. |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> docs.luanti.org has some api docs, but for now lua_api is the source of truth for the api. the docs or mostly everything else not api related |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> <shill> soliciting prs for docs project if you want to add or document sometihng </shill> |
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bgstack15 |
Er, I'm not so clever as to know stuff that isn't documented. |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> youll find some eventually |
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bgstack15 |
I haven't had any inspiration in a while; I don't have any mods in the pipeline or anything. |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> or just keep your ear to the ground. last thing i documented was cause someone came and asked about luanti on truenas |
| 18:05 |
erle |
since documenting things may lead to them being removed, but also often the justification for removing things is “it was never documented”, there is a bit of tension in coming forward ;) |
| 18:05 |
erle |
like, as soon as i revealed my mod that changed the main menu, that feature got patched out |
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erle |
btw, i think figured out why i didn't notice much banding without the dithering filter. rendering gamma-incorrectly mostly affects dark colors, because human eyes are typicall more sensitive to differences there. i can not distinguish dark colors very well. |
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bgstack15 |
I've experienced that (in non-luanti) things too. |
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bgstack15 |
erle: I guess you're not a GNOME fan, then, with all their deprecating of things people seemed to use. |
| 18:10 |
erle |
bgstack15 it's a common thing in “the documentation is the code” that people decide “no, but not like that” |
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erle |
bgstack15 GNOME is WAY worse than luanti lol |
| 18:10 |
erle |
but yes, not a fan |
| 18:10 |
erle |
last i checked, every single time they rewrite a component, all bugs related to that component are closed with “reopen if you still find this happening” |
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erle |
as far as i can tell, without checking anything |
| 18:12 |
erle |
bgstack15 i prefer “technology with warts”, as in: either everything was gotten right the first time or you carry old baggage forever and offer a clear upgrade path. e.g. the “referer” in HTTP is mis-spelled (it should be “referrer” i think), but no one ever corrected the typo because it would cause technical issues for an aesthetic gain only |
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erle |
bgstack15 of course, some old baggage can be shed, if you design the system from the start to do so. old algorithsms in TLS for example can be taken out and shot. |
| 18:16 |
erle |
bgstack15 there are very clear cases where i think it is good to break compat, because users definitely suffer otherwise, think of “rm -rf /” shenanigans. but usually devs break stuff for their own sake only. |
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Krock |
erle: https://i.postimg.cc/BZxxZjdG/grafik.png |
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Krock |
of all times you decide to timeout now? |
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Krock |
hmm yearly profile picture change, sfan5 ? |
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sfan5 |
baguette |
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Krock |
baguette |
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Krock |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgNPCKuX9ds |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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sfan5 |
wait where's the bot |
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Krock |
~title |
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ShadowBot |
- YouTube |
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Krock |
yes |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> YouTube |
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Desour |
baguette |
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Desour |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK-Kp7U5SxY |
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