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01:19 MTDiscord <bastrabun> There is an experimental android 5.15.0 apk with dynamic shadows in the forum where devs ask us to test. I try to install it but it keeps saying "App was not installed". I'm running Android 9, might that be the cause?
01:24 MTDiscord <bastrabun> (I download it, I see it's 24.43 MB in the filemanager, I try to open it with the "packet installer", it asks for permission, I grant that permission, there's some progress bar, sometimes google play protect asks me whether I want to scan this app, but regardless the scan or not-scan after a bit it says "App was not installed")
01:26 cheapie Last time I saw that it was because the package I was trying to install didn't match the CPU architecture of my device. What arch are you trying to install on?
02:05 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> oh yeah I had basically the same experience on my phone
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02:56 MTDiscord <bastrabun> My phone should be some arm64 architecture.
03:04 cheapie Interesting, because that's one of the two it *does* appear to support (the other being arm32)
03:04 cheapie I don't have an arm64 Android device I can test on though
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08:16 greeter i'm trying to run luanti on a server headless, but i'm having a hard time installing mods. the server starts up just fine but the mods don't load. can someone point me in the right direction for troubleshooting this please?
08:17 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> did you install from the package manager? the mod directory is in a different place for e.g. Debian's package, which has its own user
08:18 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> also, you should probably try the worldmods installation method - make a subdirectory of the world called mods. Those will always load
08:22 greeter hmm i actually tried the latter but it still didn't load. i'll double check that again. installed from apt on raspberry pi server
08:37 greeter it's really really REALLY insistent that i use /usr/share/luanti/games/minetest_game/mods but it works
08:40 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> uhh I mean that's where the game's own mods go, which isn't really normally somewhere you touch manually, especially if you're going to update the game by deleting it and extracting a new archive over it
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08:57 greeter yeah i'm seeing that. starting to think i'll take a pass on this particular idea. this is trying way more of my patience than i would have expected. thank you though
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10:10 sfan5 @bastrabun the APK supports both armv7 and arm64, which covers basically "normal" all android devices
10:11 sfan5 you can maybe pull the exact reason from logcat
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10:15 Krock "App was not installed." very helpful message, Android, very helpful.
10:17 Krock installd: Couldn't opendir /data/data/net.minetest.minetest.test: No such file or directory
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10:23 sfan5 maybe the ".test" suffix is causing problems. I also never actually tried to install it side-by-side with normal luanti
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10:24 sfan5 but I do know that this should work in principle from another android project I worked on
10:26 Krock sfan5: do I have to be logged in, or install the app somehow via PlayStore? "UsageReportingOptionsSt: INTERNAL_ERROR: setPlayPassOptIn failed with null account"
10:26 Krock disclaimer: I don't know whether that log message is related to the installer or not
10:27 sfan5 i don't think it is
10:27 sfan5 this is just a locally built APK signed with my local debug key
10:27 sfan5 should "just work"
10:27 Krock hmm I could try to sign it myself and see what happens
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10:39 Krock nope. nothing changed.
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11:10 rubenwardy App was not installed is usually due to unknown app source settings or the app is already installed
11:11 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> it does say you need to enable the source like the file manager that you install from, but then after doing so I get the usual "App was not installed"
11:12 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> ah, it works fine if I uninstall normal luanti
11:24 MTDiscord <bastrabun> I do have luanti installed. Would you have me uninstall that and try again?
11:25 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> I only did that to mine because I don't have anything I care about on mine. Does it delete the games and worlds?
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11:44 Krock it deletes everything
11:45 Krock create a backup of your Android/data/net.minetest.minetest directory if you have access to that
11:45 Krock or use another phone that does not have it installed
11:46 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> I imagine for someone the only "other phone" is their mum's or something lul
11:50 Krock or their previous phone with very bad battery life
12:15 Gry Mum's, or friend's.
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13:16 sfan5 @Blockhead256 ok looks like the net.minetest.minetest activity name conflicts then or something
13:16 sfan5 or package name?
13:17 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> 🤷
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13:18 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> I figure something that uses net.minetest.minetest and not net.minetest.minetest.test, but I don't really know what "things" go into Android. Activities is as good a good as any to me
13:18 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I remember that you need to change the ID of the fileprovider too in addition to the package ID to not have it conflict with the regular luanti app.
13:20 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> the namespace of the java classes shouldn't need to be changed as long as it is explicitly written out for e.g. activities. that stuff stays local to the app
13:20 sfan5 maybe that's it then
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13:26 sfan5 can anyone test this one? <- https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/LTEST.apk
13:26 Krock ... I literally turned off my phone 10 seconds ago
13:26 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> while re-installing the main app?
13:27 sfan5 yeah
13:27 sfan5 I just tried and it works on my phone
13:28 sfan5 (alongside the normal app)
13:29 Krock can confirm. both installed now.
13:30 sfan5 then it was caused by the fileprovider
13:30 sfan5 thanks @rollerozxa
13:32 Krock tik. The Android/data/net.minetest.minetest directory is only created after starting the app for the first time
13:32 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> np
13:32 Krock *TIL
13:38 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> yep got both working on my phone as well
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13:48 sfan5 I have replaced the APK in the forum post now
13:55 MTDiscord <wsor4035> @bastrabun should be fixed now
14:00 MTDiscord <bastrabun> I tried downloading but cannot find the URL mentioned https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/LTEST.apk
14:00 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> the forum post links to the new version
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14:17 MTDiscord <bastrabun> On the client downloadable from the forum shadows exist Oneplus3 Android 9 ES 3.2 SDL 2.32.10 anything you want from the log?
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14:58 sfan5 no thats good to know
15:42 MTDiscord <wsor4035> > <daydream> somebody please let Krock know the test server is back up
15:44 Krock Krock: hey it's up
15:44 Krock oh thanks Krock
15:45 Krock @wsor4035 FWIW I found a bug in a mod. I'm not sure who's the server owner(s) so that might be of interest.
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19:10 * cheapie walks past something in Bonnthal with an "ALDI SÜD geprüft" sticker on it
19:10 cheapie TÜV SÜD must've been too expensive
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20:18 MinetestBot [git] appgurueu -> luanti-org/luanti: Refactor skinned mesh weight data structure (#16655) e7f305f https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/e7f305fedd87085d217d6f904ebfcfe6c04daf25 (2025-11-23T20:17:58Z)
20:18 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix fog disable in OpenGL3 renderer 0062f82 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/0062f82fc0f87ff4f36ab9a0d3a6c686c5f7bf02 (2025-11-23T20:18:07Z)
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