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SFENCE_ |
I assume, If I would like to do a recipe, which will change item, but do not change item wear, it is not possible in actual engine? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> probably need to use `core.register_on_craft` to make sure the wear is set appropriately |
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SwissalpS |
SFENCE_: you probably need to catch in core.on_craft() or smth like that and transfer the meta data. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> SwissalpS: You don't mean monkeypatching do you? Because surely the callback I mentioned is fine |
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SwissalpS |
github/mt-mods/glider does something similar |
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SwissalpS |
Blockhead256 my blury morning eyes didn't see your message between all those join/quit messages ;) |
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SwissalpS |
that's the one :D |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> aha, I don't get join/quit spam in Matrix :P |
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MinetestBot |
[git] OffTheBeatenByte -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix incorrect minimap radar access (#16709) cc16a55 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/cc16a55d7898fced137d7b3ed8e2ccd3baaeabeb (2025-12-06T08:20:48Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Desour -> luanti-org/luanti: Add order check in unittest for `privs_to_string` 5f468ea https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/5f468eae21116a31d637d170fd9516c5a5879e75 (2025-12-06T08:21:05Z) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> Can you preload mapblocks? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> What immediately comes to mind is force loading |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Might be a better solution |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> Can it load an unloaded block? And can it load it for an player or is it loaded for server only? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> I want to make an space region which is just empty space but not near planets |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> every player gets one |
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sfan5 |
check out core.load_area |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Bracket> okay |
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ireallyhateirc |
is reading and writing to the IPC thing synchronous? Say I read a value from the IPC in one lua env and then increment it and push to the IPC again. Is it possible for another env to modify the key between the read and write operations? |
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cheapie |
I would assume it is possible for it to change, otherwise core.ipc_cas() wouldn't exist |
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ireallyhateirc |
so I just run core.ipc_cas() until it works? |
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ireallyhateirc |
(and update values accordingly in case of change) |
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cheapie |
Pretty much, if it succeeds you continue on, if it fails you update everything in your thread to match the change, then try again |
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ireallyhateirc |
I'm working on a system for events and callbacks btw and the goal is to make pushing events to other lua envs possible |
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ireallyhateirc |
e.g. notifying the mapgen thread that there was a season change and that it needs to place snow now |
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jstone |
Hello! I run a Luanti server that has a local branch of Mineclonia with some downstream patches which gets pointed to with --gameid, and while clients can download data assets from my remote media server to drastically speed up downloads, it seems like they still download the "vanilla" Mineclonia .lua files. Is there a preferred way to manage mods |
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jstone |
for a server without having to outright put the mod ContentDB? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Clients don't download mods |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> For servers. On single-player you need the game itself and remote media isn't going to work there |
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jstone |
Okay, so what can be done? If clients don't download mods, then how would I be able to centralize code for mechanics like minecart speed, inventory size, etc? |
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jstone |
*mods for servers |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> On a server I would just put everything in worldmods and manage them as submodules. Course thats for mods, not a game |
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jstone |
Is there an example I could look to for that? For example, what would I do to make sure changing `inv:set_size()` to use a bigger size is propagated to clients connecting to my server? https://codeberg.org/mineclonia/mineclonia/src/tag/0.118.0/mods/HUD/mcl_inventory/init.lua#L233 |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Blockysurvival, pandorasnox, secretive, etc all use that |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ....and your eyes? |
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jstone |
Your eyes? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> The things connected to your brain? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Mods are executed on the server and the engine sends instructions to the client |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> For your specific example, a mod doing that would also have to show those slots in the inventory to see them, or render them somewhere else |
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jstone |
Yes, and I'm trying to figure out the entrypoint for making sure that expanding the inventory size on the server is also seen on the client. If I set it to be, say, "56", then in theory I should see two more rows of items in the inventory. Yet that's not what I'm seeing. Hence why I'm asking you how to make this work :) |
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jstone |
I don't know if the mods on the client are being downloaded separately through ContentDB |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Again, mods run on the server and are not downloaded on the client |
| 16:37 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> The server sends the media to the client |
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jstone |
Yes, that much I already understand |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> In your example think of it like having 50 chairs and buying another 10. If you don't set them up no one will ever use them |
| 16:38 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> So you need to show the slots |
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jstone |
That is what `inv:set_size("main", 36)` is supposed to be for. Or at least, that's how it worked the last time I worked on this a year ago |
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jstone |
I'm trying to basically do some development for potentially upstreaming some patches to Mineclonia, so it's incredibly important to make sure the modding behavior works on the client side |
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jstone |
I'm just a software developer interested in contributing to a FOSS project in their spare time, so it wouldn't hurt to be nicer and more accommodating to newcomers ;) |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> All the engine does with that api is add more slots to put things, it doesn't render them in the inventory |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> A mod uses formspecs to render those spots |
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jstone |
Okay, so simply increasing the number of slots isn't enough, there's another section I'd have to modify so it actually displays the greater inventory size in the player HUD? |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> In the most simple terms. You need to make 2 changes. 1. Call inv set size to a bigger size 2. In the formspec inventory def add rendering/layout those new slots |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Yes |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> See dreambuilder hotbar on cdb for example |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> (Swap step 2 for hud if you want it there instead of invnetory) |
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jstone |
I guess I'd have to modify sections that call mcl_formspec.get_itemslot_bg()? https://codeberg.org/mineclonia/mineclonia/src/tag/0.118.0/mods/HUD/mcl_formspec/init.lua#L6 |
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cheapie |
totally normal escalator https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2025-12-06%2012-36-34.webm |
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* user333_ |
downloads the video with yt-dlp because his connection is too slow to play it in real time |
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ireallyhateirc |
the forbidden escalator |
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cheapie |
user333_: You could also just download it with wget or curl |
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user333_ |
i already have yt-dlp and know how to use it, besides, it's configured to put them into the right folder and rename them properly |
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user333_ |
i could also just rightclick -> "Save video as..." in the web browser |
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cheapie |
I guess that works, TBH I wasn't even aware that yt-dlp understood links directly to video files |
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user333_ |
it has a wide range of supported sites and a generic one that works on those videos |
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user333_ |
a generic downloader* |
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user333_ |
or do it the overly complicated way: https://paste.centos.org/view/69af87dd |
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cheapie |
Don't mind me, just blowing up a tornado siren in Bonnthal: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2025-12-06%2014-56-04.webm |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> user11 classic |
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cheapie |
Maybe someday I'll manage to teach User11 about the wonders of particle spawners and core.dynamic_add_media() |
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Desour |
cheapie: I love your videos |
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Desour |
game jam results: uncloseable formspecs seem to be really popular |
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user333_ |
oh, only 2 hours left to rate games |
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user333_ |
i'm not going to rate because i helped make one so the results would be biased |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> You can still rate, as it will ignore any packages you contributed to |
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user333_ |
my name isn't on the package anyway |
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user333_ |
i helped with a few textures and levels, thats about it |
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user333_ |
i also haven't played them all |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> > Groups/teams may participate (all members must be included in the Maintainers ContentDB field). |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> Emphasis on "all members must be included [as] Maintainers" |
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MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> At the very least, credited |
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cheapie |
Desour: There are some NSFW (only moderately so, but still...) ones too: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2025-12-06%2010-44-27.webm - I might have been playing around with particle spawners |
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user333_ |
i'm fine with no credit, i didn't really do that much tbh |
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mrcheese |
lol if i were to rank my own game it would probably be a C or D ;-; |
| 21:46 |
user333_ |
mrcheese: it's more of an 'interactive tech demo' than a game tbh |
| 21:46 |
mrcheese |
yeaaah- |
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mrcheese |
XD |
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Desour |
cheapie: making a mod like that is so natural given how particle spawners work. I wonder why we don't have dozens of this. (I think wanted to make one as well. apparently I forgot it) |
| 21:46 |
cheapie |
That was another not-a-mod, just playing with //lua |
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Desour |
x) |
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mrcheese |
lol //lua is the best |
| 21:47 |
user333_ |
ah, //lua, everyone's favorite chatcommand to mess with the game |
| 21:47 |
mrcheese |
>:) |
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cheapie |
Later they found the stairwell pressurization fan [similarly NSFW] https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2025-12-06%2011-13-25.webm |
| 21:47 |
MTDiscord |
<greenxenith> It's all coming back to me now |
| 21:48 |
Desour |
oh god. imagine how hard that is to clean D: |
| 21:48 |
Desour |
the smell |
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user333_ |
dont give me ideas- i have worldedit and server privs on a public server |
| 21:48 |
mrcheese |
loool |
| 21:48 |
cheapie |
I do too... this was a public server :P |
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ireallyhateirc |
piss particles? |
| 21:49 |
mrcheese |
xd |
| 21:49 |
user333_ |
mrcheese: we need to make a chatcommand to do that to players- |
| 21:49 |
mrcheese |
that is awful xD |
| 21:50 |
mrcheese |
what would it even be called??? /piss? |
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user333_ |
idk |
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* mrcheese |
tries to write Conway's game of life for //lua... :P |
| 21:53 |
user333_ |
you already did snake with //lua |
| 21:53 |
mrcheese |
lol |
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mrcheese |
that was smth like 1200 characters in total |
| 21:54 |
cheapie |
I did Conway's Game of Life for the digistuff GPU once, with the Luacontroller having no knowledge of the current state |
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mrcheese |
cheapie: yea ik |
| 21:55 |
mrcheese |
i already have a thing to do the game of life but its like 1000 characters (it used the world as its way to keep track of the state) |
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mrcheese |
1 hour 45 minutes to rank the games |
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Desour |
I found 1 week a bit short to play 12 games, tbh |
| 22:24 |
mrcheese |
lol |
| 22:24 |
mrcheese |
would have prefered 7 games .-. |
| 22:25 |
user333_ |
i'm sure we found 3 weeks too short to make one game ;) |
| 22:28 |
mrcheese |
lol |
| 22:28 |
mrcheese |
why does contentDB not have a "Tech demo" tag :P. |
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MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> is there any tech demo that can't be expanded into a useful mod? |
| 23:09 |
mrcheese |
not really but would have been nice to have on my game :P |
| 23:09 |
cheapie |
I changed the P to E on this parking ticket dispenser, it dispenses something different now: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2025-12-06%2017-00-53.webm |
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MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> describe it |
| 23:11 |
MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> ? |
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cheapie |
hmm? |
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MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> mrcheese's game |
| 23:12 |
mrcheese |
? |
| 23:12 |
MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> like what is the game |
| 23:12 |
MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> where do I find it |
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mrcheese |
its called SUPERPOSITION on ContentDB :P |
| 23:13 |
mrcheese |
(it has like 5 game breaking bugs atm) |
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MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> tried using swipe-typing to type its name got "airworthiness" |
| 23:14 |
MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> didn't know autocomplete recognized it when it didn't recognize some others |
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mrcheese |
xD |
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