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IRC log for #luanti, 2025-12-07

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01:41 mrcheese status on the game jam: Results soon :P
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02:30 * cheapie hmms at the restrooms at the Midway Mall on VE-C
02:30 cheapie The men's one has one speaker playing a tinny version of Never Gonna Give You Up. The women's bathroom has 12 speakers in the ceiling blasting rock music so loudly you can hear it halfway across the mall
02:46 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> finally, a volume loud enough to not be embarrassed to pee
02:48 user333_ ;-;
02:48 user333_ good use for that trick you did with the particles earlier cheapie
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03:21 cheapie Road signs in Hillview Heights are going great: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20251206_212054.png
03:23 [MatrxMT] <Blockhead256> Arrêt
03:24 cheapie Not sure why the signs say this is on Birch Ave. - the ones at the other end say it's HLSw)r* Street
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10:16 [MatrxMT] <bladderism> halloo
10:20 [MatrxMT] <bladderism> how do I go about changing player how the player moves beyond movespeed or jump height? say for example I want to change how the character moves, like adding some airstrafing from a source game,,
10:20 [MatrxMT] <bladderism> how do I go about changing how the player moves beyond movespeed or jump height? say for example I want to change how the character moves, like adding some airstrafing from a source game,,
10:39 [MatrxMT] <bladderism> oh I think I found how to manipulate the velocity now, just had to type it out to sorta figure it a bit
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18:14 * cheapie plays Lagtrain over the PA system at U.Market for no particular reason
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19:12 user333_ is it just me or are fonts slightly different on 5.15.0-dev
19:14 cheapie they are
19:15 cheapie I'm pretty much used to it at this point but it still looks odd
19:17 user333_ yea
19:18 user333_ i don't like anything i'm used to changing :(
19:19 user333_ let me rephrase that, i don't like things changing after i get used to them
19:21 Krock user333_: https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/7570e9520d64c20a8ace496a4329a1b34c35ad10
19:22 Krock after a few days between seeing it the first time and reopening Luanti I did not notice it at all any more
19:24 user333_ yeah i see, ima remove that commit from my personal client
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19:26 Krock it's easiest to have a "fonts" directory that's not symlinked to the source
19:29 user333_ me and a few friends are working on a custom client (https://github.com/IonicCheese/erbium) with extra features from unmerged PRs, i'm likely going to revert the font changes in that too
19:31 sfan5 how long until someone opens a bug report on your client noting that the fonts look weird compared to vanilla?
19:32 user333_ how long until someone opens a bug report saying fonts are messed up since 5.15?
19:33 Krock petition to remove all fonts and use the irrlicht fallback
19:33 cheapie petition to remove all text entirely
19:34 [MatrxMT] <y5nw> That would at least make the age rating groups a bit more happy
19:34 cheapie might as well remove all support for rendering anything other than the sky color too while you're at it, would resolve a lot of other controversial stuff
19:34 cheapie keep the randomly changing sky color though
19:35 user333_ render nothing
19:35 user333_ "Luanti is a game engine, it requires an engine and a game to run."
19:36 user333_ again, this is just a preference and not a problem
19:37 cheapie I think there's some aspect of a problem too, like the kerning seems a bit screwy, but not enough for me to do all of the digging and whatever to open a bug report
19:38 user333_ though i must say, our client looks amazing with the dark mode PR manually merged B-)
19:38 * cheapie hears something about dark mode, backs away slowly
19:39 user333_ someone doesn't like dark mode :(
19:39 * cheapie nods, can't stand it
19:39 user333_ but don't worry, it's configurable and disabled by default
19:43 MTDiscord <warr1024> Bug report.  Steps to repro: update the app.  Observed: bugfixes, improvements, sometimes new features.  Expected: nothing changes, update was pointless.  This is a complete show-stopper, please fix immediately.  Also spacebar heating is broken again.
19:45 cheapie There /were/ certainly lots of improvements (or at least the performance sucks less than it used to)
19:46 user333_ yeah, now there's no 60FPS cap with SDL2
19:47 cheapie Not that it was even possible to hit 60 FPS most of the time anyway in 5.14 unless you used a view range of like 50
19:47 cheapie With 5.15 I can at least do a view range of 200 or 250 or so
19:47 user333_ (which is pointless because none of my monitors have a refresh rate over 60 Hz, so the cap wasn't really important)
19:53 user333_ though my $100 laptop that i recently bought gets almost 100 FPS in 5.15.0-dev
19:53 user333_ about 1 FPS/dollar ig
19:55 cheapie By that logic my new-ish laptop should get about 1300 FPS, which... well, maybe in devtest
19:56 user333_ my $40 laptop got about 40 FPS in singleplayer
19:57 user333_ hmmmm go try it on a $50k server PC now
20:00 user333_ this laptop is a $100 chromebook with a dual-core CPU @2.5 GHz, and it somehow manages 100 FPS which is amazing
20:01 user333_ (i installed a UEFI BIOS and run linux on it)
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20:44 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix mono font not having a shadow by default 4833942 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/4833942e8b68c3e98ba8d1e9a75a9985834da64b (2025-12-07T20:43:27Z)
20:44 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix some problems with ClientMap::updateDrawList and related 607531e https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/607531ea6b4b1e24fabe812d1f68e2a9dc4f2b1a (2025-12-07T20:43:27Z)
20:44 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Profiler and profiler graph improvements cf69623 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/cf696239e472a87f22364f3ebc5ad319a792b5c6 (2025-12-07T20:43:27Z)
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22:13 MTDiscord <greenxenith> Results are in for the 2025 Luanti GAME JAM! https://jam.luanti.org/ https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?p=448097#p448097 3rd place: Thinking With Arrows (by Pixelo789); 2nd place: Agent X (by Just_Visting/ExeVirus); 1st place: C.O.W. (by Wuzzy); Thank you to everyone who participated!
22:18 user333_ and our game at 9th... not good but not terrible either, thanks for getting it in though
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22:19 MTDiscord <greenxenith> (make sure you arent reading the spreadsheet rows as places)
22:19 user333_ oh
22:19 user333_ lemme go recheck that
22:19 user333_ 10th then
22:20 user333_ nvm i cant count \_('_')_/
22:20 MTDiscord <greenxenith> There is a final rankings graph right there with places
22:21 user333_ yeah im blind
22:21 user333_ 8th, better than i expected tbh
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22:31 mrcheese damn my game did better than i thought xD
22:48 user333_ *our game
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23:59 mrcheese user333_: yea lol
23:59 mrcheese though i wrote all the code .-.
23:59 user333_ i made like 1 texture and parts of some levels

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