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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> user333_: they don't update to new versions within a Debian stable release, that's what the stable means. That makes it fine if you want to run a server for a few years, then move to a later version (often not the actual latest...) when a new stable relases. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> so again, it's not good for the desktop (but see flatpak, compile from source as options) but it's good for "I want to run a Luanti server for years and the only maintenance is occasional security updates" |
| 02:15 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> that works better for something like Apache or nginx more than Luanti, but that's the idea |
| 02:16 |
user333_ |
yea, i use debian/ubuntu so i know the story |
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user333_ |
and i always compile from source, never touching flatpaks again |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> oh right.. of course |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> "en ginks" |
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user333_ |
that's why i was stuck on 5.6.1 for a while until i learned to compile |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> Luanti could really do with a dedicated debian maintainer, it only occasionally gets attention to get security backports and push the latest stable to debian unstable |
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user333_ |
debain trixie released in mid 2025 and shipped with 5.10, at that time the latest was probably 5.12 or 5.13 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> yep, and that highlights why having a maintainer is so important, they need to get the latest versions into unstable before the deadline for the freeze, or it will be very out of date instead of slightly |
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user333_ |
at least it got a version after the minetest -> luanti rename |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> anyway, be the change you want to see in the world, they say |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> wearing my GNU shirt btw |
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user333_ |
i would if i had one |
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user333_ |
g n u ' s n o t u n i x |
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sfan5 |
@Blockhead256 that's the theory but realistically debian (nor any other distro really) does not have the resources to ship security fixes |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> well debian has shipped security updates for then-minetest before, but only after a huge lag |
| 08:17 |
sfan5 |
not to mention normal bug fixes they're technically supposed to backport too |
| 08:19 |
sfan5 |
this whole approach works best with an established and fixed purpose tool or system component, e.g. if I want my file gzipped then it doesn't matter if I use the gzip from 2015, 2020 or 2025, they all get the job done. but a game engine is an ever changing piece of software where having a version out of date by several years just makes a bad |
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sfan5 |
experience |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> could be sidestepped with a launcher.. I think distro-packaged veloren does that |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> not that I want a luanti launcher of course. The game opening near-instantly is a great feature |
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cheapie |
1/4 Market in Bonnthal sells electronics now too: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20260121_173750.png https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20260122_043211.png |
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cheapie |
Ignore the new item in the beverages section off to the left, that's been there a bit longer :P |
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user333_ |
cheapie: do those PCs come preinstalled with luanti? :P |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> > Kotpilot+ PCs mit dem neuen Kopilot von Mikroslop |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> LOL |
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user333_ |
any preinstalled with linux? |
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Krock |
How can I increase the render distance IRL? |
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ireallyhateirc |
use binoculars |
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user333_ |
but then you need zoom pri |
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user333_ |
v |
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Krock |
binoculars don't work. the fog is still at the same distance |
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user333_ |
disable fog |
| 19:18 |
Krock |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCZ5B9dovVE |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
!title |
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Krock |
MinetestBot! |
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user333_ |
but how would you disable fog? there's no keybind for it |
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ireallyhateirc |
no 5.15.0 blogpost yet hmmm |
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user333_ |
ireallyhateirc: https://github.com/luanti-org/blog/pull/173 |
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ireallyhateirc |
that's a spoiler, I need to cover my eyes |
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cheapie |
user333_: They're just the laptop mod computers, so no Luanti unfortunately... they do come with mView though |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Gregon> > but how would you disable fog? there's no keybind for it |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Gregon> Press F3 |
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user333_ |
what about IRL? |
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MTDiscord |
<steyerofoam> user333_: press f3 on the keyboard you use to play IRL |
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Krock |
connect the IRL keyboard to a lighting |
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