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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> D has been mentioned |
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cheapie |
Added yet more extensions, Zilsd and Zclsd |
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cheapie |
Which unfortunately have nothing to do with drugs :P |
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Farooq |
Hello Hello. Is S("Line1 nLine2") a valid translation string? |
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Farooq |
There is a bug. But I'm not sure if the bug is on me side with the game lua code or with the engine. Assuming that the above expression is valid, when an items short description is not defined and that is used as its description, the engine errors with the string |
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Farooq |
actually lemme finish the reproduction lua code |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/12566 |
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Farooq |
oh shoot |
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Farooq |
sfan5, thank you |
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[MatrxMT] |
<y5nw> Farooq: Line 1\nLine 2 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<y5nw> Nevermind |
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MinetestBot |
[git] y5nw -> luanti-org/luanti: Do not send translation files without a language extension (#17187) 04f8a0b https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/04f8a0bf57f013378f3c51ced3c3935a3fe48a34 (2026-05-17T12:24:55Z) |
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cheapie |
Heh, someone's reaction here after being convinced to upgrade from 5.10 to 5.15 or later (they ended up with 5.15.2): <%VE-Creative> <Barmy> HOLY <%VE-Creative> <Barmy> ITS SMOOTH <%VE-Creative> <Barmy> OH MY GOD |
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sfan5 |
what motivates people to not upgrade, I wonder |
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ireallyhateirc |
they love stable bugs and exploits |
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ireallyhateirc |
this reminds me I should update the luanti package in guix |
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cheapie |
sfan5: Ubuntu only ships 5.10 for some unknown reason |
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cheapie |
(probably because Debian stable is doing the same) |
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sfan5 |
yeah and debian is doing that because they have no resources to keep the package up to date |
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ireallyhateirc |
their packaging model is pretty bad and lacks reproducibility, I think only this year did they announce future versions should ship reproducible packages |
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ireallyhateirc |
hmm funnily enough Nix doesn't ship up to date Luanti either, they ship 5.14.0 |
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sfan5 |
the debian idea that you can update a software once in a while and backport a few fixes inbetween (which they're not even doing) doesn't fit a game/game engine at all |
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ireallyhateirc |
I just discovered something, idk what's the state of Appimages + luanti, but there's this: `guix pack -f appimage --relocatable --entry-point=bin/luanti luanti` |
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ireallyhateirc |
the appimage seems to work |
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ireallyhateirc |
I keep the guix package up to date, so this could be a viable option to generate luanti appimages reproducibly, if there's any interest in this |
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SwissalpS |
fedora 42 has 5.15.2-1 |
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cheapie |
Debian sid has 5.15.2 but I just compile from source instead |
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ireallyhateirc |
guix has also 5.15.2 because I was too busy to bump it, but at least the security fixes are there |
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ireallyhateirc |
could update tomorrow I guess |
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SwissalpS |
personally I build-in-place anyway so I can have multiple version clients to test etc. |
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SwissalpS |
it's a lot of work for distros to keep up with all kinds of software, not just games. |
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SwissalpS |
at least those that have a reputation for testing everything |
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bgstack15 |
The Debian stable follks target servers. They don't target desktop systems very well. Desktop systems don't benefit very much from sticking to a single version and point release of a software title. |
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sfan5 |
luanti servers also don't benefit from being stuck on a 3 year old version |
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ireallyhateirc |
I may be wrong, but a lot of this stability and security seems to be copium. e.g. the xz utils backdoor slipped in without anyone noticing for some time |
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sfan5 |
I don't mind the stability idea for system software and other tools that basically do the same task in the last 10 years. But it's totally unsuitable for Luanti and a wide range of other software. |
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sfan5 |
even firefox-esr has a release cycle shorter than debian |
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cheapie |
ireallyhateirc: That one didn't actually make it to stable |
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ireallyhateirc |
ah, that's good then |
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ireallyhateirc |
but was it actually discovered by debian maintainers or just someone random? |
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cheapie |
It was apparently discovered by Microsoft when testing something on Debian sidh |
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cheapie |
sid* |
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cheapie |
Whether the person who found it was actually doing something for work (Microsoft) or for their own personal use I'm not sure |
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Thermoriax |
I don't suppose there's a mod to give admins a repl? :) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> Thermoriax: most people use WorldEdit's `//lua` |
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Thermoriax |
hmm, thanks |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> Debug mod [dbg] is a bit better of an actual REPL although it blocks itself being run in multiplayer unless you hack it |
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Thermoriax |
I have worldedit, but I don't think I've ever used it in luanti, just minecraft long ago. |
