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user333_ |
messing with PLAYERNAME_ALLOWED_CHARS, surprisingly nothing immediately apparent in the engine itself breaks (though lots of mods will) https://lounge.swee.codes/uploads/a4da48ac4c0fbd8a/Screenshot_20260729_012815.png |
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sfan5 |
you can also name yourself 馬, probably |
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pgimeno |
the chars that have special meaning when used in a Lua pattern are the most worrisome IMO, maybe someone is embedding the user name in a Lua pattern for matching without escaping |
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MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> the legacy player/auth backends also write files with the names of users, I assume this is where most of the username character set/casing limitations come from |
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pgimeno |
excellent point, yes |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> UX wise player names should be typable for everyone especially admins and moderators |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> good luck doing /kick 馬 if you have absolutely no idea what 馬 is or how to type it |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i think reasons like this are why many platforms that started out allowing arbitrary user names have returned to restricted ASCII subsets |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> at least for a sort of "user id" |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> display names can be whatever (though then again having display names and ids coincide is useful) |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> now if in the in-game chat the display name of a plauer is shown instead of the actual name or id, and the display name is made out of non-ascii characters, how to you point moderation chatcommands to this user? esay: make the admin and the moderators see the user id in brackets right after the display name (hoping this doesn't make a too long string) |
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user333_ |
kind of reminds me of IRC's username/realname/nickname |
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user333_ |
sfan5: https://lounge.swee.codes/uploads/eacab3077a7d89eb/Screenshot_20260729_101910.png |
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celeron55 |
normal players might need the ascii names too for chat commands or otherwise so maybe there should be a player list anyone can check (well, that's very easy to add as a mod) |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> lol that evil utf-8 boi ate the > ascii character |
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celeron55 |
(whether something about this should be left for games to decide is of course a question) |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> it would then make referring to players in chatcommands harder bc you have to check the actual id and that slows down the process or have to memorize the actual id |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> there should be conventions, like transcribing a player's arabic display name to ascii in its id |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> at least players who know how to read non latin alphabets and how to transcribe them to latin could smoothly use chatcommands involving players |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> Reminds me of the node name experiments. Back then we found even a tab would be a legit node name. If you are interested, I'll look up the list/issue/wherever we took notes |
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user333_ |
okay, i made a (somewhat) sandboxed server that allows the usual characters (a-z, A-Z, 0-9, -, _) and (afaik) every other character IRC supports, so `, ^, [, ], {, }, |, and \ in playernames, if you want to try to break it |
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user333_ |
(should probably give the connection details, luanti.user333.sweeux.org:60000) |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> have the VE Building Creative rules always looked wrong? |
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<luatic> the lines are too densely packed, and the textlist[] rows that are highlighted when selected do not correspond with the lines... |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> i just checked and this is the case for both 5.16.1 and 5.17-dev |
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