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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Yeah no that does sound pretty good actually |
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Sheriff_U3 |
bgstack15, jordan4ibanez: I agree, other then "Generating substantial amounts of code with AI is strongly discouraged and may result in immediate closure of the PR." IMO it does not matter how much code is generated as long as you checked it thoroughly and it's written well. |
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bgstack15 |
I'm still of the opinion that using the output of copyright expungement engines is licensewashing and against the spirit of FLOSS, but apparently my opinion is not very popular. |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> I don't want to have to figure out the ai slop in 3 years when I add on a random feature |
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MinetestBot |
[git] cx384 -> luanti-org/luanti: [SSCSM] Remove ContentFeatures copy 6e92f85 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/6e92f85d8ba4a5c0341435c3215a1247becb2b86 (2026-08-01T05:45:29Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] cx384 -> luanti-org/luanti: Don't copy ContentFeatures to use unique_ptr for NodeVisuals 8e26c23 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/8e26c235ff822f9f21a2a80503973a0ba00bed7b (2026-08-01T05:45:29Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] cx384 -> luanti-org/luanti: Remove ContentFeatures pointer from NodeVisuals e4644ec https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/e4644ecfabbf68fe7bbd8e886b666fcf4b526200 (2026-08-01T05:45:29Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] cx384 -> luanti-org/luanti: Refactor NodeVisuals function parameters 539da32 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/539da32245b928751a11ac4c44040d9c9f956685 (2026-08-01T05:45:29Z) |
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Astrobe |
Hello. I"ve been having a strange problem since the 26th : I get CurlFetch SSL connection errors to servers.luanti.org when the client tries to get the servers, and my test server also fails to announce itself for the same reason. Yet my browser has no problem connecting to the server list. |
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sfan5 |
what happens if you try it with curl on the command line? |
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Astrobe |
Hi sfan5. I get some HTML. |
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sfan5 |
did you use https? |
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Astrobe |
Do'h... |
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Astrobe |
curl https://servers.luanti.org is also OK. |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Ugh is Luanti passing the whole url or only the domain name? I did get errors with wget without the https protocol prefix |
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Astrobe |
curl https://servers.luanti.org/list gives me a lot of json as expect as well. |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> (So i suppose curl does that as well) |
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Astrobe |
This is a wild guess, but I suspect something is wrong with the certificates. I was looking for the Let's encrypt CA certificate. |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> I tested, curl is fine with bare domain names |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Ok i said whatever sorry |
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sfan5 |
Astrobe: what is the exact error you get then? |
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sfan5 |
on linux? windows? |
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sfan5 |
if you have a development build you can additionally run luanti with --trace to see curl debug output |
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Astrobe |
2026-08-01 09:03:20: ERROR[CurlFetch]: HTTPFetch for https://servers.luanti.org/list?proto_version_min=37&proto_version_max=52 failed: SSL connect error |
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Astrobe |
2026-08-01 09:03:20: ERROR[CurlFetch]: HTTPFetch for https://servers.luanti.org/geoip failed: SSL connect error |
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Astrobe |
This is windows and vanilla Luanti 5.16.1. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> 10 or 11 |
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Astrobe |
Dates at UTC+2 |
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sfan5 |
ok well command-line curl on windows is likely to not match Luanti's curl on windows |
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Astrobe |
A Windows that was EOL'ed some time ago.... |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> EOL operating systems start to have problems with certificates that come with the OS |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Win10 ? Win7 ? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I'm gonna guess 7 because 2025 was not "some time ago" to me.. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I moved off 7 when python versions stopped supporting it |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> (Win7 was the best windows ever...) |
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Astrobe |
I have everything necessary to move to Linux, but I've been too lazy to make the move. |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Well if you manage to trace the precise origin of that SSL cert error, if that is really boud to your current os, then try revive your pc with linux :> |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> trying to update root certs on 7 may be easier than a whole new OS.. *may*, ... |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Me too was sooo lazy to move, but now I'm there X) |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Block: but how? Aren't they in the deep hierarchy of windows's file system ? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> well I really don't know. About the closest I know is installing a package for extra certs on Debian. There might be a manual Windows update to install or the community might know how, but, yeah it's not straightforward |
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Astrobe |
Found the ISRG Root X1 certificate, AKA Let's encrypt's certificate, and it seems OK. It's consistent with Curl working. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> and you're sure curl can fetch other webpages with SSL? |
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Astrobe |
Well if I curl https://www.luanti.org/en/ (which is also Let's Encrypt), it woks fine too. |
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sfan5 |
again, the curl you have won't work the same way as luanti's curl |
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sfan5 |
if you want to test that download this <https://minetest.kitsunemimi.pw/llvm/curl-8.19.0-win64.zip> and put the curl.exe in the same folder as luanti |
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Astrobe |
Here we go... |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> What are the modifications on the curl in the luanti compared to the actual curl ? |
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Astrobe |
I guess Luanti uses LibCurl, so custom parameters etc. |
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sfan5 |
there are no modifications, but it rather depends on which build configuration was used (incl. which SSL library) |
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sfan5 |
because I have no idea where the "normal" curl on windows comes from I can't tell you what the differences are |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> 7 didn't even ship with a curl... |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> But the curl for linux is og, right ? |
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sfan5 |
there can be different build configurations on linux too |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> True, win7 didn't have such foss software |
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Astrobe |
Ah, good, now I have an error message to work with. |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Ohhh |
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sfan5 |
the difference is that on Linux typically you have one system-wide installation of curl and libcurl, and Luanti (and every other program) just uses exactly that |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> linux distros take curl's source code and build it then package it, as said potentially with configurations |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> So linux lt depends on linux curl, linuw curl is not embedded in linux lt |
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Astrobe |
FWIW, I downloaded Curl from the official website, of course. |
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Astrobe |
For the record, the message is exactly like https://curl.se/mail/archive-2023-12/0005.html |
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Astrobe |
Lol, I replaced the libcurl.dll of Luanti with the the libcurl-x64.dll shipped with the Curl... And the server list is back ! |
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sfan5 |
yeah such things are generally possible unless the versions are incompatible |
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Astrobe |
Am I evil ? Yes, I am. |
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Astrobe |
Announce is OK too. Thanks for your patience and help. |
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[git] v-rob -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix relative path links in CONTRIBUTING.md 892d0c7 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/892d0c782da914bc8097862bbeb02ddef3709715 (2026-08-01T18:14:40Z) |
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cheapie |
How to get a nonstop elevator ride back to the lobby (the fire department hates this one trick) :P https://cheapiesystems.com/media/2026-08-01%2013-29-58.webm |
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sfan5 |
CDB down again? |
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sfan5 |
nvm just slow |
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