| Time |
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honkisakamoto |
*Ante Merediem |
| 00:00 |
honkisakamoto |
*Ante Meridiem |
| 00:01 |
honkisakamoto |
technomancy: You are welcome, It worked lol, when you mentioned my name |
| 00:27 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> cdb supports a whitelist of domains in long description |
| 00:27 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> 👆 |
| 00:28 |
rubenwardy |
badges in the long description is any antipattern really |
| 00:28 |
rubenwardy |
doesn't show in the Luanti client |
| 00:52 |
MTDiscord |
<red.023> if only the client included a full web browser |
| 00:53 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> after all, what's another embedded V8? why shouldn't I eat all the RAM? |
| 00:54 |
MTDiscord |
<red.023> Is pause menu rework on the roadmap? |
| 00:54 |
MTDiscord |
<red.023> I kinda feel like at this point the two side bars could just be deleted |
| 00:54 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> no that's not |
| 00:54 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/milestone/35 |
| 00:54 |
MTDiscord |
<red.023> with IP address removed and seemingly controls removed, not sure what's the point of it |
| 00:56 |
red-001 |
like what is all the space for now, it's back to looking quite ugly https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iKrCKmoK/image.png |
| 00:56 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> make the buttons wider :^) |
| 00:57 |
user333_ |
maybe something like the list of online players or more client/server info? |
| 00:57 |
red-001 |
https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/UuEODQCs/image.png |
| 00:58 |
red-001 |
the remote server one is the worst, I'm a bit biased but I quite liked having the server address there, but now that it's gone for streamer friendliness there's really no use for it at all |
| 00:59 |
red-001 |
don't really need the version number, that's there to fill up space |
| 00:59 |
red-001 |
game info was always a bit of a hack, I wanted it to be sent by server but that never got approval, so it is what is |
| 01:00 |
user333_ |
put ads there, how did we not think about that |
| 01:00 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> 🤯 |
| 01:00 |
red-001 |
now that Luanti is a game engine more clearly it would be nice to make it mod controlled, but the issue with that is the pause menu is a trusted context, I'm not super comfortable suggesting mod control there |
| 01:01 |
red-001 |
I guess I might just open a PR that deletes the side bars to get some discussion on this, the "public" flag is the only moderately useful bit of information on there, and even that is eh |
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red-001 |
oh android still has controls there, that makes a lot of sense |
| 01:15 |
MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> You wanted us to spread the news so here you go, enjoy https://youtu.be/VGglBoB8gu0 |
| 01:37 |
red-001 |
can formspecs already reference the current controls the player has? |
| 01:49 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> no, the formspecs are drawn on the server side and the client doesn't tell the server what its control keys are |
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[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> well, there is client-side Lua in CSMs as well. I'm not sure if those can touch the pause menu. But that API doesn't have knowledge of what the controls are either. Well, not directly. Maybe by snooping through the settings |
| 02:08 |
MTDiscord |
<red.023> @Blockhead256 that's true but someone could have added support for it, either through substitution for the emoji or otherwise |
| 02:10 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> @Unprofessional React Programmer Nice to see another Linux Mint user. Are you using Cinnamon or LMDE? |
| 02:11 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> If your wondering how in the world I determined that, we can see your taskbar in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcZOKyTQrpc |
| 02:13 |
user333_ |
doesn't that show the openSUSE logo |
| 02:16 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> oh your right... they both look similar on my laptop... |
| 02:19 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> red.023: The problem isn't graphics, it's reliably knowing what the client's controls are. I think it's possible only client-side and by reading through the defaults for controls in case of no non-default being bound (e.g. looking for W as the default forward control) |
| 02:19 |
user333_ |
https://lounge.swee.codes/uploads/d8a6fe1feb4a7f78/Screenshot_20260827_231913.png there's no mistaking *this* logo! |
| 02:20 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> so it's basically limited to non-standard installations of Luanti. Which is common enough for Mineclonia but not something to take for granted |
| 02:22 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> fastfetch gives out way too much info to post it the the internets imo |
| 02:23 |
user333_ |
the default? not imo, but with -c all it can |
| 02:29 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> for a device with only / maybe but I don't care to give out info on all my partitions |
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WebGuest70 |
is there a way to change how frequent dungeons generate? |
| 04:49 |
MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> I'm using kde lol :P |
| 04:50 |
WebGuest70 |
i use kde neon! |
| 04:51 |
MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> https://klipy.com/gifs/draco-malfoy-harry-potter-16 |
| 04:53 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> yes, go to the noise settings of your mapgen and go to the dungeon noise. I think you increase the scale to generate more dungeons |
| 04:54 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> e.g. Settings -> Mapgen -> Mapgen v7 -> Dungon Noise -> Scale |
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WebGuest70 |
what about with the singlenode mapgen? in mineclonia, with its custom mapgen, there is the option to enable native luanti dungeons. |
| 05:07 |
WebGuest70 |
can that be changed? |
| 05:12 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> I am not sure what noise that uses since singlenode does not usually have them |
| 05:12 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> maybe the flat mapgen noise |
| 05:40 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> I don't think native Luanti dungeons are compatible at all with Mineclonia |
| 05:40 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> from the code: `for _,mg in pairs({"v7","valleys","carpathian","v5","fractal"}) do |
| 05:40 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> ` |
| 05:41 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> that seems to be the list of mapgens that will re-enable dungeon mapgen if you ask for native luanti dungeons |
| 05:42 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> *compatible with Mineclonia's own custom generator |
| 05:49 |
WebGuest70 |
settings - games - mineclonia- world- native luanti dungeons, i thought this would cause dungeons to generate |
| 05:50 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> yes it should work, but only for the list I gave: "v7","valleys","carpathian","v5","fractal" |
| 05:54 |
WebGuest70 |
so that turns dungeons on or off for worlds made with the default mapgens, and doesn't affect mineclonia's custom singlenode generator? |
| 05:55 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> that's my understanding yes |
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WebGuest70 |
ok. im trying to figure out why dungeons aren't generating in my mineclonia world. when i create a world, map_meta.txt says mg_flags = caves, dungeons, light, decorations, biomes, ores |
| 06:11 |
WebGuest70 |
after i start the game, map_meta.txt changes. |
| 06:11 |
WebGuest70 |
-chunksize = 5 |
| 06:11 |
WebGuest70 |
-mg_flags = caves, dungeons, light, decorations, biomes, ores |
| 06:11 |
WebGuest70 |
+} |
| 06:11 |
WebGuest70 |
+chunksize = (5,32,5) |
| 06:11 |
WebGuest70 |
+mg_flags = caves, nodungeons, light, decorations, biomes, ores |
| 06:15 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> yes, the game will override your mapgen settings, here is the relevant code |
| 06:15 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> https://codeberg.org/mineclonia/mineclonia/src/tag/0.123.0/mods/MAPGEN/mcl_mapgen_core/init.lua#L46-L66 |
| 06:16 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> I've misread the code |
| 06:17 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> that block isn't even about dungeons |
| 06:17 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> it's about the custom cave generator |
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| 08:16 |
honkisakamoto |
Meow |
| 08:17 |
honkisakamoto |
Where Can I find Luanti's discord? |
| 08:17 |
sfan5 |
the link is on here https://www.luanti.org/en/get-involved/ |
| 08:22 |
honkisakamoto |
I couldn't find luanti on Google Play Store https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/hVKcw2T8/Screenshot_2026-08-28-15-21-46-442_com.android.vending.jpg |
| 08:22 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> https://blog.luanti.org/2026/08/27/luanti-dmca-tracer-ai/ |
| 08:26 |
honkisakamoto |
Okay, I just download it with my browser |
| 08:32 |
honkisakamoto |
Tell me which game I should try in 2026 |
| 08:32 |
honkisakamoto |
? |
| 08:36 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<birdlover32767> if you wait 2 months then it will be the luanti game jam |
| 08:39 |
honkisakamoto |
It feels different. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WEU1eZh0/18502.jpg |
| 08:40 |
honkisakamoto |
Also, I have joined Luanti's discord server recently |
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[MatrxMT]_ |
<the4spaceconstants> read bubble issue |
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Sheriff_U3 |
I'm looking forward to the game jam, this will be my first year participating in it. |
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cheapie |
Ooh, two approvals on #17406 now :D |
| 16:26 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/issues/17406 -- Add client setting to disable digging particles by monk-afk |
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rubenwardy |
Microsoft uses Luanti https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/project-vega/ |
| 17:57 |
technomancy |
ah yes, finally! microsoft's powerful AI can help handle the tedious tasks in my life such as *checks clipboard* playing video games |
| 17:58 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: lol wat |
| 17:58 |
technomancy |
imagine getting paid to do this |
| 17:59 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> they're even using voxelibre or mineclonia |
| 18:00 |
celeron55 |
well they're essentially implementing Sims in Luanti using AI |
| 18:00 |
technomancy |
some microsoft VP is desperate to find projects that use their LLM shit and some aspiring engineer is like "uhhhh what if we made it play luanti for you?" and that's your job for the next six months until they lose interest and restructure again |
| 18:00 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> yea, vibe gaming sounds a lot like just the sims |
| 18:00 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Ok I don't understand what you want Luanti to do, Microsoft. Get taken down by a self-slopping AI agent not so good at DMCA knowledge and practice? Get eaten by Mojang that you already ate? Become your sloppy AI agent? |
| 18:01 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Or this Automatic button in Pokémon Quest |
| 18:01 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> yeah |
| 18:02 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Yeah many occurrences of this kind of features actually |
| 18:02 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> ik "ai bad" and all but there are better arguments then "autonomous npcs are literally brainrot" |
| 18:02 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> honestly this research project would be great advertising for luanti, it's so accessible as an open source project that even microsoft research finds it useful |
| 18:02 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> like what, are we even fighting anymore |
| 18:02 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> ppl see AI and instantly assume the worst nowdays |
| 18:03 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> That is the upside of this |
| 18:03 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> heck, even with some chatbot mods I have seen for other games people were saying "if it wasn't written by a human it is not worth my time" |
| 18:03 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> like tf do you think procedural generation is |
| 18:03 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> be against data centers yeah, but there are better arguments then this |
| 18:03 |
technomancy |
to me it's just hilarious that MS is so desperate to find use cases for their tech that no one wants so they're paying people to build this |
| 18:04 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> I mean, imagine Microsoft (in)directly promotes Luanti... (let's hope they don't somehow claim it and merge it into Minecraft) |
| 18:04 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> wait MS is doing this in luanti??? |
| 18:04 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> MS is the one behind this? |
| 18:04 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> True, why didn't they just do that in MC |
| 18:04 |
technomancy |
they could have used this money to make windows actually work, but that doesn't really seem to be much of a priority |
| 18:04 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> YES. |
| 18:04 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> lol yes |
| 18:05 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> they even link to our website |
| 18:05 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> lmao, they are probably terrified that if they do this in main MC that people will flip their shit |
| 18:05 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> > We aim to design VEGA as a flexible agent framework for 3D embodied games, where characters can perceive, act, and interact in persistent single-player or multiplayer worlds. For the prototypes and demonstrations in this article, our testbed is Luanti (opens in new tab), an open-source voxel game platform. |
| 18:05 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> and hoping that if they do it in a "smaller game" people won't notice as much |
| 18:05 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> idk though |
| 18:05 |
technomancy |
ggepic64: minecraft's modding system is so bad even microsoft won't touch it lmao |
| 18:05 |
user333_ |
"we're going to teach AI to play video games instead of maintain the OS that most of the planet runs on" |
| 18:05 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> either that or this just proves how well optimized minetest is vs java mc |
| 18:06 |
technomancy |
"optimized" is not the right word |
| 18:06 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> but still, I wouldn't call the general idea of autonomous npcs that you can give commands like in a strategy game "slop that wants the game to play itself for you" |
| 18:06 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Gaaahajaaaaarrr Minecraft officially sucks now |
| 18:06 |
technomancy |
minecraft's mod system is a textbook case of adversarial interoperability |
| 18:06 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> if THAT is wanting the game to play itself for you then I guess simearth is vegetable gamer status |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Idk how MC modding works actually, is it by adding JARs into it with eventually more assets ? |
| 18:08 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> minecraft java edition modding is all third party APIs |
| 18:08 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> minecraft bedrock edition modding is some javascript API I think |
| 18:08 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> idk that much but from what little I do know waay back in the day people directly modded the jar files |
| 18:08 |
technomancy |
ggepic64: there's a kind of cat and mouse game where the devs try to obfuscate and break the modding system and the modders always defeat them, every time |
| 18:09 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> iirc javascript isn't as obfuscated as more compiled languages like C++ so it was semi easier |
| 18:09 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> heck, texturepacks before they were officially added were basically jarmods |
| 18:09 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> minecraft java edition is java, not javascript |
| 18:09 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> java* |
| 18:10 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> fixed it lol |
| 18:10 |
technomancy |
alexiosthesixth: they go out of their way to obfuscate it beyond what java does normally |
| 18:10 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> minecraft java edition actually had its obfuscation removed recently I think |
| 18:10 |
technomancy |
ah, I haven't kept up with the latest |
| 18:10 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> and previously they had provided obfuscation mappings for some  years too |
| 18:10 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Okay so why won't they block every single modded client then? You can't play offline anymore as it needs to always check itself for copy legitimity using your Msoft acc |
| 18:11 |
technomancy |
back when I was looking at it, it was harder to *install* a minecraft mod than it was to *write* a minetest mod |
| 18:12 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> JARs that just replace PNGs :hyperXD: |
| 18:12 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> nowadays with modern third-party launchers like prism launcher it's quite easy to install mods even for older versions where you had to manually put in class files into the jar (the launcher does that for you) |
| 18:12 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i like how not only are they using luanti, there using a mineclone lol |
| 18:12 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> yeah exactly |
| 18:13 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> not a seperate jar, legit just editing the main jar |
| 18:13 |
bgstack15 |
Hm, I have a user that runs official minecraft entirely offline. THere's no launcher or mods though; it's completely vanilla mc. |
| 18:13 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> yeah I use that for texturepack jarmods in classic MC with prismlauncher |
| 18:14 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> so not truely offline then since iirc it phones home for a lot of stuff |
| 18:14 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> did you find a script to be able to launch the jar directly from CLI? |
| 18:14 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> if so I would be interested if you can post the shellscript lol |
| 18:14 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> mm let's not discuss piracy here |
| 18:14 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> ... |
| 18:15 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> how tf is discussing DRM free shit piracy |
| 18:15 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> or is it the shellscript thing |
| 18:17 |
bgstack15 |
I miss some ancient mapping tool I used to have for MC. It could show me every single layer of the world. I used it to mine straight to the diamond ore, haha. I couldn't find my old notes or files, and can't remember the name of it. |
| 18:17 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> mcedit? |
| 18:17 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> was it 3d or 2d |
| 18:18 |
bgstack15 |
It was like a trainer; a separate program. Although you might have to run it entirely without MC running, or maybe on a copy of the world [files]. It was 2d, and gave you a slider to drag from -255 to 255, and it was fun to watch things pop onto the map and follow lava streams down the layers. |
| 18:19 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> unmined might do something similar |
| 18:19 |
bgstack15 |
So like minetest-mapper, but for every single Y value, and it was pretty fast. Must have cached everything up front. I'm sure the world I had was really small so it wouldn't have taken very long. |
| 18:21 |
bgstack15 |
Well, unmined looks way closer. Although whatever tool I had was very win32-skinned and basic. It was ideal. |
| 18:21 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> but yeah I will probably find a way to make my own then ig, I legally bought MC I just hate online DRM and wanna launch minecraft like it's a dos game lol |
| 18:21 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> what year range was it from probably? |
| 18:22 |
bgstack15 |
I had it in 2012 |
| 18:22 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> hm |
| 18:22 |
bgstack15 |
back in my bad old days of proprietary OSes |
| 18:22 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> ig probably just look it up on google with before:2014 or something |
| 18:22 |
bgstack15 |
While I have archives of that world, I couldn't find anything about the tools like the mapper |
| 18:23 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> google with the before: operator might be your best bet |
| 18:23 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> if it was well known at the time |
| 18:24 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Why aren't there easy to find documentation about advanced operators for search engines |
| 18:24 |
MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Too much stuff I wish I knew earlier |
| 18:24 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> ikr |
| 18:24 |
bgstack15 |
Yeah, easily the best part of this convo: learning how to use search tools better. |
| 18:25 |
bgstack15 |
I recall that google used to have advanced search boolean operators, etc. |
| 18:25 |
MTDiscord |
<alexiosthesixth> it's all on weird blogging article sites for some reason |
| 18:25 |
technomancy |
google deliberately nerfed its search to make people spend more time looking at ads |
| 18:25 |
bgstack15 |
Anyway, I think unmined from ~2012 is not it. It looks like it has too many options and buttons to press. I don't remember anything on the right-hand side. |
| 18:25 |
technomancy |
https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/ |
| 18:25 |
bgstack15 |
It is irrelevant however, because I don't play MC. |
| 18:25 |
bgstack15 |
But it's fun to think about |
| 18:27 |
bgstack15 |
Hm, might have been "Minutor.exe" |
| 18:29 |
bgstack15 |
Yeah, this random video from 2016 shows me the closest thing that I remember: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwBOOSYA3Tk |
| 18:30 |
bgstack15 |
I don't have easy access to an uncompressed copy of my 2013 MC world, nor a Windows machine for minutor, nor do I want to poke at that in wine. But Minutor it would have been. |
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<the4spaceconstants> well that's interesting |
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MinetestBot |
[git] monk-afk -> luanti-org/luanti: Add client setting to disable digging particles (#17406) 3f8d96d https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/3f8d96d8411066598e725f0746b3740583524d71 (2026-08-28T21:42:30Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Require a recent LuaJIT version (#17511) 9e28947 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/9e289472d8d7afcf5d927da67d89c8c3977064af (2026-08-28T21:43:37Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] cx384 -> luanti-org/luanti: Remove drawtype consistent members from `NodeVisuals` (#17520) 8742fc0 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/8742fc0264bacfc37e84580186ea2c7ffcacb21c (2026-08-28T21:43:55Z) |
| 21:47 |
*Â cheapie |
recompiles, immediately unchecks the new "Digging particles" checkbox |
| 22:00 |
MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> why do you dislike digging particles so much? |
| 22:00 |
MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> just curious |
| 22:02 |
Sheriff_U3 |
It might be useful for some game devs. |
| 22:03 |
MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> probably and im not arguing against having the option at all, just curious why cheapie is so eager to disable it asap |
| 22:03 |
cheapie |
.zenonseth: Because they're annoying |
| 22:03 |
MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> lol, ok fair enough |
| 22:05 |
MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> > It might be useful for some game devs. although, it's just a user-setting, not a setting that can be enforced by games I think? similar to how view bobbing cannot? |
| 22:06 |
cheapie |
That and a bit of spite, since "the player doesn't get to decide what graphical effects the game should have, even if the game code has not specified" is not only blatantly user-hostile but has been a pattern too |
| 22:08 |
MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> i think for more accessibility related like view bobbing, highlighting nodes color/type, and the particles too i agree. For stuff like fog distance, less so imho. 🤷 idk |
| 22:08 |
cheapie |
Fog actually has IMO a decent solution anyway (the game can enforce a setting, but if it doesn't then the user can select) |
| 22:09 |
MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> yeah thats what i mean, that should not necessarily be user-overridable, anyway |
| 22:09 |
cheapie |
For whatever reason that was originally rejected for digging particles, in favor of the "lol get GNOMEd" approach |
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[MatrxMT] |
<the4spaceconstants> what if games can choose to lock any settings to game-specified options |
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[MatrxMT] |
<the4spaceconstants> they have to choose to do that |
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Sheriff_U3 |
rubenwardy: Is there a list of mods on ContentDB that still have depends.txt or description.txt? |
