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MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> Oh no c55's PC might be in trouble with these increased settings! |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Why? Doesn't it have any GPU? |
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sfan5 |
sure hope c55 is not on a celeron cpu anymore |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> Or upgraded his pc with 54 more celerons :thinksmirk: |
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Izzy |
> 54 more celerons |
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Izzy |
larabee moment |
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Ingar |
Izzy: lol my thoughts exactly |
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cheapie |
sfan5: Celeron D 355 *nods* :P |
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cheapie |
Or maybe Celeron G550 |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> he should upgrade to a c56 |
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* cheapie |
upgrades birdlover32767 to birdlover-32768 |
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user333_ |
i have run luanti on a (modern) celeron |
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user333_ |
it took like 20min to compile but ran quite well on the intel hd graphics (tm) |
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cheapie |
Still better than the ~12 hours it takes to compile just the server on a SiS 550 |
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* user333_ |
introduces cheapie to crosscompiling |
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cheapie |
but that's no fun :P |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> I SPENT 100 DAYS COMPILING LUANTI BY HAND... (COREDEVS CAME) |
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user333_ |
average youtube video title |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> to be fair simulating all the instructions would take like 5 years |
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cheapie |
Now I wonder, if I get Linux running on RVController someday, how many years Luanti would take to compile on _that_ |
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user333_ |
try it on a RISC-V VM in lua + luajit, that will give you the best possible result |
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celeron55 |
for the record, i use an i7-11850H. i've never ran luanti on the celeron machine my nickname is based on. i think it was a SEPP packaged 366MHz Celeron Mendocino, and the motherboard allowed overclocking it to 550MHz |
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celeron55 |
i still have it though |
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cheapie |
D: |
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cheapie |
Time to see if you can get it running :D |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> release luanti 1.0.0 when it drops below 30fps on a celeron |
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rubenwardy |
I have a celeron under my bed |
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MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> ? |
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MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1553140293979734046/26-09-25-21-24-46-Celeron_-_Wikipedia_-_Vivaldi.png?ex=6ab82a1e&is=6ab6d89e&hm=98ca2668935f8545a190504d82fd3ba0cb710a88b3235f6c6d9c856f44731556& |
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user333_ |
i have a crappy celeron n4000 laptop motherboard i should do something with, unfortunately it doesn't have ethernet so i can't easily use it as a server |
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rubenwardy |
Occasionally I kick my celeron but it doesn't do much anymore:( |
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cheapie |
I have a 566MHz Coppermine-128 Celeron somewhere, maybe I should try to get Luanti running on that sometime |
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Izzy |
it took a While to compile it on the powermac G5. runs _almost_ okay on the GF 7600GS |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> I recently upgraded to a workhorse that manages a Luanti release build in a minute :) |
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MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> that poor horse |
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MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> but also in this economy? you must be rich |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> It did cost me a fair sum, though I kept it below 1k. The RAM prices are eye watering but unfortunately it doesn't look like it's getting better... |
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MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> yeah who knew AI likes to eat ram, new delicacy i guess |
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* user333_ |
dangles his 64gb ddr4 in front of an LLM |
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MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> under 1k is impressive though, i was looking at potential programming upgrade for my am5, and its still gonna cost like 400gbp at least |
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MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> i was lucky to get 64gb of ddr5 just a year before prices skyrocketed too :P now im praying it never goes bad |
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user333_ |
i got my RAM for free in the middle of the price chaos, it was gifted to me |
| 21:38 |
user333_ |
anyway, it builds luanti + luantiserver in 1m17s, though i suspect that's due to disk read/write limitations |
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MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> at 64gb, and even probably 32gb, the bottleneck is almost certainly your cpu, not RAM., |
| 21:39 |
MTDiscord |
<.zenonseth> i guess unless you're running something insane, idk 🤷 |
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user333_ |
it's running from a 2018 hard drive, so that's likely the bottleneck |
| 21:40 |
user333_ |
i'm testing it from a ramdisk now |
| 21:42 |
user333_ |
a few seconds faster but not worth the effort |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> ramdis hardly helps against the file cache. SSD will be much faster, especially if it's NVMe, against a cold start, but warm starts are often comparable with the file cache |
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user333_ |
unfortunately i have no SSDs for my main PC (aside from the one in my laptop, but then i don't have a working laptop) |
| 21:56 |
user333_ |
and i'd rather have things load for a few extra seconds then spend money on an SSD these days |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> fair. I managed to snag 3 bargain basement 2 TB SSDs before the price explosion. Actually they were a bit cheaper than HDDs, so it was a no-brainer |
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* cheapie |
looks around her bedroom at three computers with hard drives, all doing their thing |
| 23:05 |
cheapie |
I've been hammering that 20TB HDD with stuff for quite a while now :P |
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cheapie |
(the HM-SMR one, the HC650 - still running XFS on it, still working great) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> hard drives in the bedroom? hope you don't wanna sleep in there |
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user333_ |
my main PC has *two* hard drives, one from 2012 and one from 2018 (boot drive, also the newest hdd i have..) and it's in my bedroom :D |
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cheapie |
Blockhead256: But the hard drive noise makes that easier |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> different types I guess |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> of people |
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user333_ |
depends on the noise too |
| 23:11 |
user333_ |
one of my drives makes a very high-pitched whine at times (probably not good) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> literally I ditched my last WD Red (yeah, already a loud drive to put in a desktop...) because it started continuously whining and it was damaging my hearing |
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cheapie |
One of the true-WD Red ones or a rebadged HGST? |
| 23:13 |
cheapie |
FWIW the HC650 I have here (and I think all other WD Ultrastar drives) is one of the HGST-derived ones, they make more noise than the others |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> uhh it was bought like 2022ish, 6 TB model, fairly sure it was a good drive not SMR |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> didn't dive deep enough to know about origin of manufacture |
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cheapie |
If it's that recent and 6TB it's /probably/ a "pure" WD, those are actually the quieter ones |
| 23:15 |
cheapie |
If you have the full model number (including after the dash) I can check for sure |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I'm good thanks, it's a retired drive after all |
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cheapie |
fair :P |
| 23:17 |
cheapie |
Here's what the HC650 sounds like: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/hc650-activity-2.opus |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> lesson learned though, NAS drives are loud. I do actually like being able to hear storage activity though, it's like a warning sign. Like I know just how much storage firefox churns when it starts due to disk sounds |
| 23:17 |
cheapie |
This one /is/ SMR but it's HM-SMR |
| 23:17 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> hmm that's pretty pointy sounding |
| 23:18 |
cheapie |
My other HM-SMR drive (Seagate ST14000NM0007) actually has an even... sharper(?) sound |
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* user333_ |
takes a look at the hard drive in his main PC |
| 23:29 |
user333_ |
pretty generic 1TB hard drive, had no issues with it so far https://x0.at/5vSZ.JPG |
| 23:32 |
user333_ |
it held all my backups until the terrible day i ran the wrong command and then it held nothing |
| 23:33 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> woah that's a lot of pixels |
| 23:34 |
user333_ |
my camera is the only thing that takes actually good pictures (excepting my phone but the driver for the camera in it is kind of broken on postmarketOS) |
| 23:55 |
cheapie |
user333_: Pharaoh Oasis family, good drives, but strangely enough they're contact-start/stop despite being that recent. The 1TB one you have there is the largest-capacity CSS drive ever made |
| 23:57 |
cheapie |
Basically a souped-up version of the Barracuda 7200.12 from 2008 |
| 23:59 |
user333_ |
i'm not sure what most of those words mean but i'll take it as "it's a good hard drive" :D |
| 23:59 |
cheapie |
good but old-fashioned |
| 23:59 |
user333_ |
it is from 2018, so like 2-3 years ago.. oh wait |
