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celeron55 |
killing forked competition with GPL isn't a very good idea; it makes people lazy |
| 00:02 |
hmmmm |
fwiw i'm willing to convert all of my code to BSD if anybody desires |
| 00:02 |
iqualfragile |
how would you kill forke competition with gpl? gpl does not forbid forks (well, as long as they still are gpl) |
| 00:03 |
celeron55 |
because with gpl your competition is just some random hobbyists |
| 00:03 |
celeron55 |
with lgpl we're getting these chinese crapware guys who actually happen to get things done |
| 00:04 |
celeron55 |
yes, i'm saying it's a good thing |
| 00:04 |
iqualfragile |
well, they could still do their stuff, as long as they give every buyer their changed sources |
| 00:04 |
iqualfragile |
(on request) |
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celeron55 |
...yeah sure, they'd do what they do if they had to do that? that's just a totally dumb assumption |
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Sokomine |
is there a known sample for tablecolumns? that formspec feature sounds very intresting |
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PenguinDad |
Sokomine, https://github.com/kahrl/tabletest |
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Sokomine |
ah! thanks |
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Sokomine |
PenguinDad: looks extremly useful for my purpose. that example will help |
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artur99 |
hi |
| 15:27 |
artur99 |
something on translate.minetest.ru is not working |
| 15:27 |
artur99 |
i cant change my First/Last name in the settings borad |
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artur99 |
it keeps telling me Please fix errors in the form. |
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artur99 |
?? |
| 15:34 |
artur99 |
anyone online? |
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sfan5 |
artur99: be patient |
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artur99 |
ok |
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Fresh_meat_ |
hello everyone |
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artur99 |
hi |
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| 19:55 |
Fresh_meat_ |
Can anyone help me with a question of mine : is it technically possible to script action like movements, block placing, ... with the lua script |
| 19:55 |
Fresh_meat_ |
*scripting system ? |
| 19:55 |
sfan5 |
client-side? no |
| 19:56 |
Fresh_meat_ |
I am actually interested into using minetest to produce benchark |
| 19:56 |
Fresh_meat_ |
so a way to reproduce action is needed |
| 19:56 |
Fresh_meat_ |
and on server side ? |
| 19:56 |
PilzAdam |
there is --random-input |
| 19:57 |
sfan5 |
it would be fairly easy to hook up lua to an InputHandler |
| 19:59 |
Fresh_meat_ |
ok so actually there is no way to reproduce a scripted scenario, but it is possible to implement something rather easilly |
| 20:00 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 20:00 |
Fresh_meat_ |
ok |
| 20:01 |
Fresh_meat_ |
does that means modification of the code base or rather just adding some bits of lua? |
| 20:02 |
Fresh_meat_ |
because I really have no idea how to do that |
| 20:03 |
sfan5 |
modification of code |
| 20:04 |
Fresh_meat_ |
hu ... ok :( |
| 20:04 |
Fresh_meat_ |
thanks anyway |
| 20:05 |
sapier |
it's a major change in client code. Client side lua support is on improvement list for quite some time. But it's not likely to be done soon |
| 20:05 |
celeron55 |
doing something that the client dictates is a lot simpler |
| 20:06 |
celeron55 |
no need to sandbox anything or transfer anything |
| 20:06 |
artur99 |
who is the admin on translate.minetest.ru ? |
| 20:06 |
celeron55 |
artur99: xyz |
| 20:06 |
artur99 |
k, thx |
| 20:06 |
Fresh_meat_ |
that would be quite usefull too for regression testing I think |
| 20:06 |
sapier |
celeron55: true but it'd be double work if this wouldn't be done in a way for it to be reused |
| 20:08 |
Fresh_meat_ |
come to think of it : would it be feasible to add another input system on the client who could send fake input commands ? |
| 20:09 |
Fresh_meat_ |
so it could read a script file or something |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
this is what I mean |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
a simple lua script that provides all InputHandler methods |
| 20:10 |
sapier |
nope |
| 20:10 |
sfan5 |
that would be easy to do and would not waste time, because that is likely not that reuseable |
| 20:10 |
sapier |
as you already said that code would be absolutely useless for other things and it's still some work |
| 20:11 |
sapier |
if someone really wants to do a dirty hack I suggest some sort of batch operation |
| 20:12 |
proller |
something intresting here - https://github.com/Omnistudent/mtclient/tree/clienteer/src/ai |
| 20:14 |
Fresh_meat_ |
ok thanks guys |
| 20:15 |
Fresh_meat_ |
I will have a look but I fear it is a little too big for me |
| 20:15 |
Fresh_meat_ |
anyway, keep the good work, I love to see more commit each time I update my minetest-git package |
| 20:18 |
Fresh_meat_ |
how and you should implement a nudist beach biom ^^ |
| 20:18 |
sfan5 |
dat reference |
| 20:18 |
sfan5 |
anyway |
| 20:18 |
sfan5 |
I have time to burn, I'm going to implement what I said |
| 20:19 |
sapier |
sfan5 can you please have the client side lua in mind? |
| 20:19 |
sfan5 |
maybe |
| 20:19 |
sapier |
you don't need to complete it just try to get code usable for it |
| 20:19 |
sfan5 |
ok |
| 20:21 |
sapier |
http://animalsmod.comuf.com/downloads/Minetest-debug.apk added support for dpi dependent control size ... well I couldn't do a lot of testing as I don't have multiple devices |
| 20:22 |
* sfan5 |
haz android device |
| 20:22 |
sapier |
feedback is welcome |
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| 20:26 |
CiaranG |
sapier: Is there a reason your #640 isn't merged? |
| 20:26 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/640 -- add get_surface lua function by sapier |
| 20:27 |
sapier |
doubts if it is still necessary |
| 20:28 |
CiaranG |
Because it's somehow now fast to do that from lua, but it wasn't before? |
| 20:28 |
sapier |
vmanip was suggested |
| 20:29 |
CiaranG |
ok, interesting, thanks |
| 20:29 |
sapier |
which isn't as fast as this variant but 640 isn't complete too |
| 20:29 |
sapier |
for what I remember you can't specify what type of nodes you consider to be surface |
| 20:30 |
CiaranG |
walkable or air is how it's implemented there currently |
| 20:30 |
CiaranG |
or rather, not walkable, or air |
| 20:31 |
sapier |
yes but sometimes you consider sea surface to be surface too |
| 20:31 |
CiaranG |
Yeah |
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sapier |
that's missing and I didn't have time/interest to fix it by now |
| 20:33 |
CiaranG |
I also wanted a radius, rather than a specific node. (standing on the corner between 4 nodes, for example - so a radius of 1, which would consider it to be a surface if any of the covered nodes is) |
| 20:33 |
sapier |
you see the current version is way to specific |
| 20:33 |
sapier |
but you're welcome to use it as base for improvement |
| 20:34 |
CiaranG |
Thanks, will do |
| 20:34 |
sapier |
well if it's usefull to base uppon it |
| 20:34 |
sapier |
if you feel some different aproach is better don't hesitate to drop the original variant |
| 20:36 |
CiaranG |
I don't see anything wrong with it, aside from that it could be more flexible (and only in the two ways mentioned above) |
| 20:49 |
sfan5 |
Fresh_meat_: done! |
| 20:50 |
sfan5 |
took 32 mins |
| 20:50 |
sfan5 |
https://github.com/sfan5/minetest/commit/ebf5947cbf111177e7f06a5804abcd0ad00b6ca5 |
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sapier |
hmm are you sure this is very usefull for benchmarking? |
| 20:54 |
sapier |
well at leasts it's deterministic |
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sfan5 |
Fresh_meat_: use this file as base http://ix.io/b8g/lua and pass --lua-input <path to lua file> |
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sfan5 |
PANIC: unprotected error in call to Lua API (stack overflow) |
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sfan5 |
oops :P |
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Fresh_meat_ |
hey thanks |
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Fresh_meat_ |
I will try it tomorrow |
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Fresh_meat_ |
sapier : well, yes. It's the way the phoronix test suit works |
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Fresh_meat_ |
I hope michael will be happy :) |
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