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iqualfragile |
Fresh_meat_: minetest is more of a cpu and less of a gpu benchmark |
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ShadowNinja |
~tell sapier Your android build sends all chat twice. |
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ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: O.K. |
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RealBadAngel |
hi |
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RealBadAngel |
ShadowNinja, have you tested shaders commit? |
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ShadowNinja |
RealBadAngel: Nope. And heading off to bed now. I might nor have a chance to until the weekend. |
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RealBadAngel |
i do have next commit almost ready but for that i need previous part merged |
| 08:46 |
RealBadAngel |
i have rebuilt shader.cpp and prepared it for various kind of shaders, including postprocessing |
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RealBadAngel |
you have saw the code i was interested in, i have mixed it with ours |
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RealBadAngel |
well, with modifications to mapblock_mesh.cpp and shader.cpp i think ive gained 15-20fps on my box |
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RealBadAngel |
im hitting all the time 60fps, while a few weeks ago i was having 25fps |
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RealBadAngel |
and this is with all the shader effects enabled |
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RealBadAngel |
and 256x textures ofc |
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celeron55 |
what kind of modifications |
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RealBadAngel |
shaders are no longer created in mesh collector, theyre prepared on startup |
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RealBadAngel |
each material can have own shader |
| 11:26 |
RealBadAngel |
it is possible now to send variables to shaders per node |
| 11:27 |
RealBadAngel |
before shaders were instantly rebuild or fetched from cache |
| 11:27 |
celeron55 |
so it works now closer to the speed of when no shaders are used |
| 11:27 |
RealBadAngel |
its significantly faster |
| 11:27 |
celeron55 |
well that depends on the GPU |
| 11:28 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc, but i havent changed my gpu for 2 yrs |
| 11:28 |
RealBadAngel |
and got double fps now |
| 11:29 |
celeron55 |
if you can ever make anything that uses shaders that runs faster on my old laptop (950GM) or my desktop computer (i3 integrated), you're... ehm, getting false results |
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celeron55 |
but i guess on more high-end things that might be true |
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RealBadAngel |
i cannot make everything faster but i can move some things from runtime to startup |
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celeron55 |
in my book 2 years is very new |
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RealBadAngel |
take a closer look at meshcollector, there are lotsa things that should be done just once |
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RealBadAngel |
not on every refresh |
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celeron55 |
why are you trying to re-explain what you already said |
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celeron55 |
you always do this |
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RealBadAngel |
uh, ok ;) |
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RealBadAngel |
btw, with those changes ive managed to return to single shader for terrain |
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celeron55 |
how many were there before? |
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RealBadAngel |
5 |
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RealBadAngel |
mostly copy pasted |
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RealBadAngel |
now i can have more shaders but just one for nodes, another for sky, water surface etc |
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tomasbrod |
The windows client lags a lot on my machine even if renderdistance=5, while other 3D openGL games are OK. |
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tomasbrod |
I will try to diagnise it. |
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VanessaE |
tomasbrod: lag != low fps |
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VanessaE |
please do not mix the two up. |
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proller |
mt have both |
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VanessaE |
it can, yes |
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VanessaE |
but the two are not the same and happen independently of one another |
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VanessaE |
especially if the server and client are running a separate processes |
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celeron55 |
tomasbrod: what GPU |
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celeron55 |
you're likely hitting the choppines caused on some GPUs by the dynamic loading of new meshes |
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celeron55 |
in minecraft it's even more visible |
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celeron55 |
we're quite limited in what we can do to counter it when doing stuff with irrlicht |
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celeron55 |
(without irrlicht there might be some kind of options using more advanced opengl) |
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celeron55 |
actually, i'm not 100% sure it's that |
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celeron55 |
it hasn't been throughly diagnosed and could be due to something else, or could be due to a number of different things |
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tomasbrod |
Sorry for no answer. I was bussy and forgot to logout. |
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tomasbrod |
By the lagging I mean low fps when turning around. |
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tomasbrod |
When moving camera slowly, fps is high even on view range 40, but if I turn around spf (secon per frame) is about 5. |
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tomasbrod |
I will post more details tomorrow. |
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proller |
because draw list rebuild |
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tomasbrod |
Yes. |
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tomasbrod |
Next thing. If I the window looses focus while joining game, the game freezes and when I kill the process then system hangs and beeps. |
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tomasbrod |
No problems on older versions (i have to test which), however. |
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VanessaE |
system hang+beep is your OS being busted,. |
| 21:30 |
VanessaE |
the window losing focus and crashing the game is a known bug though |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
(but that it causes an OS crash is your OS's fault) |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
the FPS sagging while you turn around is a known issue also. one way to help it is to lower your maximum view distance to something like 60 to 80, something that'll always be sure to render at a reasonable speed |
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tomasbrod |
Thnks |
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tomasbrod |
However, I do not seek help. I just letting you know :) |
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tomasbrod |
am |
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proller |
also you can get stable 60 fps with 0 view distance! |
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proller |
i like play with 1000 |
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tomasbrod |
proller: 60? There is a fps limit? Oh, I see something in config. |
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Fresh_meat_ |
sfan5 : sorry, I didn't have anytime to look at the patch you made, I hope I can do it tomorrow, anyway, I sent your work to Michael (the guy behind the phoronix test suite) |
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