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lhofhansl |
Thanks! It's safe to merge. If you prefer I'll trainee the FOV default change, it's not needed, just a cosmetic cleanup |
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lhofhansl |
I'll remove... |
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paramat |
no need |
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paramat |
0 is cleaner than that equation |
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garywhite |
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VanessaE |
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garywhite |
Will someone please approve #4472 before Wednesday? It'd be one thing that MT would have a major advantage over MC |
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longerstaff13 |
#4472 ? |
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garywhite |
#4472 = Make server list searchable |
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longerstaff13 |
oh |
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paramat |
seems to have some issues |
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paramat |
not really high priority |
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paramat |
will merge games 1432 1434 in a moment |
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paramat |
merging |
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paramat |
done |
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paramat |
will merge engine #4831 #4826 in a moment |
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paramat |
now merging |
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paramat |
done, nice |
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paramat |
so now i feel we can do this 'Mapgen: Make mgv7 the default mapgen' https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4829 |
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lhofhansl |
Thanks. Awesome! |
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paramat |
now i have to rewrite fire sound code .. |
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VanessaE |
#4829 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4829 -- Mapgen: Make mgv7 the default mapgen by paramat |
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VanessaE |
\o/ |
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paramat |
bot! game#1436 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1436 -- Fire: Rewrite fire sound code by paramat |
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paramat |
please can anyone be a hero and review/approve #4061 ? |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4061 -- Add loaded blocks to transforming_liquid-queue similar to updateLiquid by MillersMan |
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hmmmm |
hi paramat |
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hmmmm |
is that the one you wanted me to review |
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hmmmm |
i'm gonna have a look now |
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hmmmm |
i've been in a really stressful situation lately, sorry |
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sofar |
it's a bad time of year for most of us |
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sofar |
busy work time |
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sofar |
family / holiday stress |
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hmmmm |
i wish it could just be work shit |
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sofar |
I wish it was too |
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hmmmm |
that i can handle at least |
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hmmmm |
i hope i come out of all this stuff with my nutsack still attached to my body |
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hmmmm |
for the past two days my heart has literally been pounding |
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sofar |
(that sucks) |
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red-001 |
split #4472 into 3 commits, so that it can be merged without search result filtering part |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4472 -- Make serverlist searchable. by red-001 |
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PR4061works |
Kulgan`: VanessaE found mem usage was growing due to logs, not about water queue |
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VanessaE |
well no |
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VanessaE |
the logs were a problem, fixed, but there is still an apparent memory leak |
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VanessaE |
whether it's the liquid queue, idk. |
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PR4061works |
nice |
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PR4061works |
missed that part |
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VanessaE |
that's because I hadn't yet said it :) |
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VanessaE |
there's not really enough new stats since I factored-out the logs to make a fair judgment |
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VanessaE |
https://daconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stats-daily.html but if you look at the memory graph here, you can see a ~1 GB drop in usage when the servers were restarted at 0700. |
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PR4061works |
VanessaE: try slowing liquids to a crawl? or applying 4061? |
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PR4061works |
j4f |
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VanessaE |
#4061 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4061 -- Add loaded blocks to transforming_liquid-queue similar to updateLiquid by MillersMan |
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VanessaE |
I'll let the devs figure it out |
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PR4061works |
juhdanad: what do you think about moving fog farther a little? This get me thinking about it:https://imgur.com/a/AKbkr (shaders enabled) |
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PR4061works |
juhdanad: right now I feel like some stuff is completely hidden by fog, but rendered (like on pics above) |
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juhdanad |
You can set the fog for yourself as you want. |
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PR4061works |
juhdanad: really? |
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PR4061works |
can't find it in config |
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juhdanad |
Advanced settings->Client->Graphics->In-Game->Advanced->Viewing range |
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PR4061works |
juhdanad: i use 240, what i mean is fog compleately hides some chunks on that screenshot |
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juhdanad |
But I do think that it should be easier to find. |
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PR4061works |
maybe it needs to at least slightly uncover that parts |
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juhdanad |
On the first picture you disabled fog, am I right? |
| 16:02 |
PR4061works |
right |
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PR4061works |
look center and left trees on far side |
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PR4061works |
compare two screens |
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juhdanad |
In this mode your client draws everything. |
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PR4061works |
make them in two tabs |
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PR4061works |
hmmm, but i looked into F6 menu and drawing not changed |
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juhdanad |
Try it out! Fly ~1000 nodes, look back, and disable fog. |
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juhdanad |
You should see everything that has been ever drawn. |
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PR4061works |
block drawn is the same when i turn off the fog |
| 16:04 |
PR4061works |
nope |
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juhdanad |
(at least full viewing range with the R key does this) |
| 16:04 |
PR4061works |
or wait |
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PR4061works |
i don't use R right now |
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juhdanad |
Sorry, then I misunderstood you. |
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PR4061works |
it draws everything if only R is used |
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PR4061works |
i'm really sure fog hides completely some parts, will post new screens |
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VanessaE |
something I especially like is that F5 now turns on wireframe mode if you press it enough times |
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PR4061works |
juhdanad: https://i.imgur.com/cdGF0Qd.png vs https://i.imgur.com/fQ9CqZY.png |
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PR4061works |
so that part can be uncovered a bit for sure |
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PR4061works |
juhdanad: i have impression it is in some parts only |
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juhdanad |
Oh, somebody made a commit that made fog round. However the server sends blocks in a cubic shape. You are seeing towards the edge. |
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PR4061works |
juhdanad: you sure? blocks are send in round shape now |
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juhdanad |
TWell, I don't know what the latest version does. Fly up, and with full view range look down. So you can see the shape of sent blocks. |
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PR4061works |
juhdanad: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e7c62edec90c476b54ea7cf7c44354f1609e4575 |
| 16:16 |
PR4061works |
juhdanad: lol, i think I bothering wrong person |
| 16:16 |
PR4061works |
lhofhansl did fog changes... |
| 16:16 |
PR4061works |
not you |
| 16:16 |
PR4061works |
sorry |
| 16:16 |
juhdanad |
No problem. |
| 16:20 |
PR4061works |
juhdanad: i wonder if thats you who tried to fix ghost lighting? |
| 16:20 |
juhdanad |
Yes, I am. And at this moment I'm working on it. |
| 16:21 |
juhdanad |
At the current state I think it works, but uses too much CPU. |
| 16:21 |
PR4061works |
juhdanad: good luck with that |
| 16:21 |
juhdanad |
So I'm trying to make it faster. |
| 16:22 |
juhdanad |
Thanks! |
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PR4061works |
damn, I also has this impression of bright grass as someone noted |
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PR4061works |
wonder if someone will reconsider improving of algorithm that is used for background darkening, due to problems with it in some parts of floatlands: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3577 |
| 16:47 |
juhdanad |
How can I add six new bits to mapblock data? Should I create a new version number? |
| 16:49 |
sfan5 |
why 6 bits |
| 16:49 |
juhdanad |
Each bit indicates that the light spreading could not be finished in that direction because the neighbor block was not loaded. |
| 16:50 |
juhdanad |
This prevents light calculating when all light spreading is complete. |
| 16:51 |
PR4061works |
interesting |
| 16:51 |
PR4061works |
wonder if this can be related to liquid spreading that hmmmm was thinking |
| 16:52 |
juhdanad |
I don't know - I haven't seen hmmmm's algorithm. |
| 16:54 |
PR4061works |
he was thinking about: how in some way mark the water when it settle to not process it next time |
| 16:54 |
PR4061works |
nevermind |
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juhdanad |
Yay! I successfully created a new serialization version with six extra flags! |
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est31 |
is it for network serialisation, or for disk serialisation? |
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juhdanad |
For both. |
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est31 |
ok |
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est31 |
from what you told the change sounds reasonable |
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PR4061works |
ugh, can't put stick, wooden stairs into furnace |
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Krock |
you can craft sticks into planks, depends on subgame and mods |
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PR4061works |
nevermind, sfans mtg is probably too old, it was fixed recently i guess |
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PR4061works |
hold on, can't use furnace in creative |
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Krock |
lolwhat? |
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PR4061works |
lolyes |
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PR4061works |
or not |
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Krock |
maybe you're doing it wrong. works fine here |
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PR4061works |
smelting wrong thing, sorry :S |
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PR4061works |
was burning wood with wood |
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PR4061works |
yeah sorry, it works |
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PR4061works |
alarm off |
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PR4061works |
this recent biome change is very good, i like it |
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PR4061works |
!tell paramat is this really necessary to place papyrus on green dirt near savannah biome? |
| 21:14 |
ShadowBot |
PR4061works: O.K. |
| 21:14 |
PR4061works |
!tell paramat why not yellow dirt? |
| 21:14 |
ShadowBot |
PR4061works: O.K. |
| 21:15 |
PR4061works |
!tell paramat example: https://i.imgur.com/VInMyIj.png |
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ShadowBot |
PR4061works: O.K. |
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paramat |
green was used to blend with the papyrus colour |
| 21:28 |
paramat |
it's not ideal, perhaps it could be dirt now since grass only spreads from neighbours |
| 21:29 |
paramat |
hm good idea |
| 21:29 |
juhdanad |
Yes, I think dirt would be better. |
| 21:29 |
paramat |
i avoided dirt before because it would just change to grass |
| 21:29 |
paramat |
will do this |
| 21:30 |
paramat |
Fixer your input is so useful |
| 21:30 |
juhdanad |
By the way, what does !tell do? |
| 21:30 |
garywhite |
!tell juhdanad this |
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ShadowBot |
garywhite: O.K. |
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garywhite |
!tell garywhite Hi |
| 21:30 |
ShadowBot |
garywhite: O.K. |
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paramat |
or ~tell |
| 21:31 |
juhdanad |
Oh, I thought it sends an e-mail or something. |
| 21:31 |
paramat |
the message pops up for the recipient when they next log in |
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red-001 |
!tell red-001 test |
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ShadowBot |
red-001: O.K. |
| 21:31 |
juhdanad |
Thanks, this is useful! |
| 21:34 |
garywhite |
Finally, I finished the commit for my subgame |
| 21:45 |
paramat |
#4829 |
| 21:45 |
ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4829 -- Mapgen: Make mgv7 the default mapgen by paramat |
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VanessaE |
2016-12-03 23:03:13: WARNING[Server]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id = 49415 statically but block (-20,12,44) already contains 10002 objects. Forcing delete. |
| 22:05 |
VanessaE |
this really, REALLY needs fixed.... |
| 22:05 |
VanessaE |
(especially since the per-block limit is 500) |
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PR4061works |
lol, wonder what are those objects |
| 22:05 |
sfan5 |
why do you blocks have 10k objects ಠ_ಠ|
| 22:05 |
VanessaE |
I have no idea at all |
| 22:05 |
sfan5 |
your* |
| 22:05 |
PR4061works |
is it possible to print list of them? |
| 22:05 |
VanessaE |
why is the engine allowing the count to exceed 500? |
| 22:06 |
sfan5 |
nobody implemented the check in that place |
| 22:06 |
sfan5 |
or rather it's hard to keep track of which entities move to which mapblock |
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VanessaE |
that mapblock is up in the air, far from any land. only one tall building near that spot, and all it has for entities is a bunch of signs. |
| 22:11 |
VanessaE |
/clearobjects quick helps though. |
| 22:16 |
VanessaE |
...and it would seem that the old "flat player skin" bug has resurfaced. |
| 22:16 |
red-001 |
why does minetest even keep that texture around? |
| 22:17 |
VanessaE |
I don't mean the "green guy" |
| 22:17 |
VanessaE |
I mean a regular "sam"/minecraft-type skin being laid out flat-sprite style |
| 22:19 |
red-001 |
so even worse then the green sprite? |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
imagine taking a regular skin file and just...displaying it raw. |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
not wrapping it around a model |
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red-001 |
thats pretty bad |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
it's an olllllllllld bug |
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red-001 |
is it a bug in the lua code? |
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red-001 |
or the c++ code? |
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VanessaE |
no idea |
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red-001 |
any sure way to reproduce it? |
| 22:21 |
red-001 |
or does it happen at random? |
| 22:21 |
VanessaE |
the only thing I can be sure of is that entity glitch ^^^ can help cause it |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
because it still, to this day, deletes player refs/handles too |
| 22:31 |
PR4061works |
VanessaE: cheapie created very dirty hack to avoid this |
| 22:31 |
PR4061works |
VanessaE: i sometimes get kicked too on login to some of your servers |
| 22:31 |
PR4061works |
because of this id = crap |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
I saw his hack |
| 22:32 |
VanessaE |
figured I'd wait for the devs to decide what to do about it |
| 22:32 |
PR4061works |
why not somehow get list of those objects, what are they, and somehow deduce why they are there |
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VanessaE |
didn't seem like there was any point, the only thing in the are that even creates entities is signs and LCD screens, and they update very infrequently |
| 22:36 |
Shara |
Regarding the "flat skin" bug. I've noticed it's likely to happen the same time as the "multiple players named unknown in the player list" bug. |
| 22:38 |
Shara |
Players time out, and seem to get replaced on the player list by "unknown", and when they sign back in, they have flat skins. |
| 22:38 |
PR4061works |
o.O |
| 22:38 |
Shara |
It's extremly rare, but have noticed they seem to go together. |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
that's what happened to me. |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
I signed in, got caught-up and deleted with those ^^^ entities, had to quit and sign on again, and got the flat skin. |
| 22:39 |
Shara |
I've previously entered /status on my server to get "unknown, unknown, unknown, unknown, Shara" for example, when it's just me there and others timed out |
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Haven't seen it in quite a long time now. |
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anybody remembering my mapgen with strictly downhill flowing rivers? I'm thinking of redoing the implementation in a more generic way |
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milllersman |
my idea is to create an abstract base class that provides the tools for writing recursively refining MapGens |
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paramat |
i certainly remember it, and tried it |
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in theory it might even be possible to make them scriptable |
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the worlds the old one generated are ugly as the ridges of mountains were always on a grid with a power of two step-size, small ones at around 4x4 while bigger ones had a 64x64 grid or even bigger... |
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in theory recursive refinement allows to have non-local rules (like water always goes in the direction of decreasing y regardless of how long rivers are) with comparable speed to noise-based generators |
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sorry for spaming with reconnects :( |
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millersman |
is there any interest in integrating such a feature in the official minetest? |
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paramat |
yes i'm interested |
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paramat |
it can certainly be considered |
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millersman |
how could i best communicate the general concept and my ideas for the implementation details? |
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paramat |
an issue at github |
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millersman |
ok, but there are a lot of details, hope i'm able to write it in a clear way |
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paramat |
well hmmmmm at least will probably understand it |
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millersman |
ok, so i'll try it |
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paramat |
he also really liked your mapgen |
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paramat |
or the concept at least |
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ok, i stop spamming now but i keep updating and reading the log. so if anybody has questions, just ask them or tell ShadowBot |
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paramat |
ok |
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