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07:24 SFENCE_arch Nice... SDL3... I have to try it with google ANGLE for iOS build.
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09:16 celeron55 who is the maintainer of [MatrxMT]? i'd like to warn that i'm aiming to create #luanti* channels this week and set redirects from these old channels to those
09:35 celeron55 for testing i'll now transfer the forum style/template/theme/whatever repo from https://github.com/minetest/forum.minetest.net_template1 to https://github.com/luanti-org/forum.luanti.org_template1
09:35 celeron55 it's a good test because while nobody cares what happens to that, it still has a couple of issues to transfer so most features will be tested
09:36 celeron55 this is the URL of the current issues page, which will be interesting to try once i've done the transfer https://github.com/minetest/forum.minetest.net_template1/issues
09:41 celeron55 it is done now
09:41 celeron55 and looks like that issues URL redirects nicely
09:42 celeron55 i'll wait until evening in case someone spots that something went wrong and then proceed with the rest
09:43 celeron55 i'm sure some things will break with the repos that have complex actions or pages, but i can't predict what exactly. everyone will have to deal with it as it happens
10:09 MTDiscord <.niklp> @MisterE is responsible for the matrix bridge afaik
11:09 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> Next meeting date has been changed (02->09 Feb), please cast your participation vote
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14:40 MTDiscord <mistere_123> let me know when the new channels exist
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18:21 celeron55 i'll transfer the repos now (within a couple of hours)
18:21 celeron55 i hope people are around in case things break
18:23 celeron55 i'll do dev.luanti.org first to see what happens with the page hosting
18:23 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I assume you'll have to change the CNAME record on the DNS side since it's tied to organisation name
18:24 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> but we'll see
18:24 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (I'm here, by the way :)))
18:24 MTDiscord <wsor4035> transferring and renaming the engine repo at the same time? (also around if needed)
18:25 celeron55 i think github may even route the page without a dns update
18:25 celeron55 it's moved now, and the page still works
18:25 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> ah
18:26 celeron55 the "Edit this page" redirects also
18:26 celeron55 +link
18:26 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> well makes sense, the domain names you're intended to put in the DNS probably resolve to the same set of IPs used by pages
18:28 celeron55 well, i guess i can transfer the engine repo
18:28 MTDiscord <wsor4035> (rename to luanti as well in the dialog)
18:28 celeron55 (yeah, obviously)
18:31 celeron55 that is done
18:31 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I hear no explosions, I think that is a good sign
18:31 MTDiscord <wsor4035> teams access for triagers/super triagers isnt right
18:32 MTDiscord <wsor4035> (i fixed dev.luanti.org perms)
18:32 celeron55 yeah the team access thing is, let's say, very coarse, for now
18:32 celeron55 there's no support for transferring those
18:33 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> finally, luanti is now bug-free
18:33 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747163566800633906/1331693163756130395/image.png?ex=67928b67&amp;is=679139e7&amp;hm=cc7e998a31de8d121c74f7a2b0ec5bc780fbda4026ffc5549338ab16634b6e38&amp;
18:33 MTDiscord <mistere_123> Zughy will retire
18:33 celeron55 uh what
18:33 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> I think it's fine
18:33 MTDiscord <wsor4035> has 1.2k open issues at /dev/null
18:34 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> it's just taking a while to move over all the issues
18:34 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> if I check closed issues I see increasing amounts of issues fill up there
18:34 celeron55 this_is_fine.png
18:35 celeron55 yeah looks like some open issues got moved now
18:36 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> the git gnome is working hard moving them all one-by-one
18:36 celeron55 benchmarks is another repo with some github workflows, let's see how robust that one is
18:38 celeron55 i guess i'll try to move the discussions repo also
18:39 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> well it looks like the benchmarks generation has been broken for several months already
18:41 MTDiscord <mistere_123> I propose calling the engine Minetest whenever it acts like a test of a minecraft clone, and Luanti whenever it acts like a game engine
18:41 celeron55 what should i rename minetest.github.io to?
18:42 celeron55 www.luanti.org?
18:42 celeron55 i think that would make more sense than luanti.github.io
18:43 celeron55 (given that there's dev.luanti.org also now)
18:43 MTDiscord <wsor4035> iirc thats using the github site org name, no ci to build it. so needs to be luanti.github.io
18:43 MTDiscord <wsor4035> *no ci to build+deploy
18:44 celeron55 well that's a good point
18:44 MTDiscord <wsor4035> could change it to build via ci, then when transfered rename it to whatever you want
18:44 celeron55 well i'll skip that move for now
18:44 celeron55 it's more important to move the user facing repos
18:45 celeron55 what about minetestmapper
18:45 celeron55 it certainlyhasn't been renamed to luantimapper
18:45 celeron55 +space
18:46 celeron55 i'm leaving that too
18:46 MTDiscord <wsor4035> internals where renamed: https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/commit/1c16c40ccca7039e7e03f9a81909c1d3e5fd11c1
18:46 MTDiscord <wsor4035> ....probably fine?
18:51 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> opened an issue about it. seems to be GLTF related: https://github.com/luanti-org/benchmarks/issues/6
18:52 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (but not related to the org repo move, of course)
18:54 celeron55 about half are now moved
18:55 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> also yeah a repository by the name of <org_name>.github.io has some special treatment by github where it becomes the root of a site where other repositories (e.g. the benchmark repo) become subdirectories under that domain unless a custom domain is set on a per-repository basis. it should be renamed to luanti-org.github.io when you move it
18:57 celeron55 i'll move minetest.github.io -> luanti-org.github.io now. it seems like it should work then
18:58 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> yeah
19:00 celeron55 are io_scene_x and B3DExport used at all these days?
19:00 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> don't know what the B3DExport in the minetest org is
19:00 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> the proper B3D exporter we've used up until GLTF has been maintained by greenxenith
19:01 MTDiscord <rollerozxa> (i.e. B3DExport is probably obsolete, more so than the format itself)
19:02 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> Is it really happening? Oh wow, let's goo
19:03 celeron55 at least two questions remain: what should the new name of minetestmapper be, and should i transfer the old irrlicht repo
19:04 MTDiscord <wsor4035> guess minetest_game isnt getting left in the minetest org
19:04 celeron55 i just transferred it
19:04 celeron55 felt a bit ironic
19:05 SFENCE Old repos comes to read-only state?
19:06 sfan5 minetestmapper is still named that
19:06 sfan5 and leave irrlicht IMO
19:06 celeron55 so transfer minetestmapper to luanti-org/minetestmapper?
19:06 sfan5 sure
19:07 celeron55 happening now
19:09 celeron55 the permissions are totally off now and i probably won't catch all of it
19:09 celeron55 basically every team only has read permissions
19:09 celeron55 so, poke me if you can't do something
19:12 MTDiscord <wsor4035> super triager, cant see discussions - or label issues, etc
19:15 celeron55 it's per repo
19:16 celeron55 i need to go for a moment. i hope to see a giant list of thing that don't work here when i come back
19:16 celeron55 things*
19:16 celeron55 (moment = 45 minutes)
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19:50 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> in these days GH is super slow, super annoying
19:50 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> also, sub-issues sound like hell for triagers
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19:52 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> celeron55: Mastodon account in bio should be @Luanti@fosstodon.org (and not @Minetest@fosstodon.org)
19:55 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> if "Popular repositories" are manually picked, I'd get rid of minetestmapper and serverlist: not as important as the others (also less noise)
19:58 celeron55 i don't think that's manually picked... and i don't even see it anywhere, i have some stupid startup wizard on the main organization page
20:01 [ <[MatrxMT]> <Zughy> in these days GH is super slow, super annoying
20:01 [ yet another reason to move to codeberg (or something else freedom-respecting)
20:03 sfan5 working fine here
20:06 celeron55 i'm surprised these transfers are working essentially fine. it means m$ still hasn't messed up github
20:28 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> I mean... copilot anyone?
20:37 MTDiscord <wsor4035> github works just fine, minus the every month or two outage for a short bit
20:49 [MatrxMT] <Zughy> discussions unlocked, I can see them now
20:55 celeron55 yeah just did that
20:59 celeron55 now i'm done with these for today. let me know if there are missing permissions or something
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22:06 MTDiscord <exe_virus> GitHub team is still the original GitHub team in many respects. Met one of the seniors a month or two ago
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