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jas_ |
there's definitely an el sound in walk, it's just very nuanced |
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jas_ |
it's certainly not wok as in stir fry |
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| 12:53 |
atorian37 |
hi admins |
| 12:53 |
atorian37 |
i hope there is some help for me here |
| 12:54 |
atorian37 |
i use futureban mod to ban players and these days, a player chatted with another one and told him, he has a hack to connect even if he is banned. |
| 12:54 |
atorian37 |
i checked that, it's true, he connected even if he is in the ipban.txt file |
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| 12:56 |
atorian37 |
he is in the ban list with another ip but the playername is also there, is that behavior normal? |
| 12:59 |
Shara |
Depends on the ban mod. |
| 13:00 |
Shara |
Both xban and sban group player names/IP addresses, but I have no idea how futureban works |
| 13:06 |
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| 13:07 |
atorian37 |
maybe I should use another mod? wich one is most popular to securily ban (without using the systems firewall)? |
| 13:08 |
IhrFussel |
You can only ban an IP or a IP range in MT...there is nothing more secure |
| 13:09 |
Shara |
xban is well used, sban is newer but well maintained and issues get fixed quick. I go with sban myself because I prefer to have a proper db for bans, but it's really up to you |
| 13:09 |
IhrFussel |
IP range can match false positives (people from the same ISP for example) |
| 13:09 |
atorian37 |
I thought it a good idea with futureban, because it adds the new ip to the player in ipban.txt if it changes, but it seems not to work anymore because of a hack from the client |
| 13:10 |
Shara |
I don't see how a client could "hack" a way to dodge bans. But since I don't know the mod, I can't really say what might be wrong |
| 13:11 |
atorian37 |
I have no idea, because I am no developper - I cannot read/understand the code in the deep |
| 13:12 |
Shara |
I can't even find futureban from a quick search |
| 13:12 |
atorian37 |
ok I check the author |
| 13:12 |
Shara |
But th eonly post I found about it akes it sound like it's meant to be used with another ban mod anyway |
| 13:12 |
Shara |
makes* |
| 13:13 |
Shara |
So I'd suggest picking one of the other mods I named |
| 13:15 |
atorian37 |
the code is here: hhtps://github.com/nyje/future_ban |
| 13:16 |
atorian37 |
ok I guess thats what I will do |
| 13:17 |
Shara |
Yea, that doesn't look well supported or... anything really. No license, no documentation, no recent updates. |
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| 13:19 |
atorian37 |
Thank you! I will give sban a try :) |
| 13:30 |
atorian37 |
for sban, can I just install lsqlite3 with apt install on my server, does the sban create the db itself ...? |
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| 13:30 |
Shara |
I think you need to, but best to check with shivajiva |
| 13:31 |
atorian37 |
ok |
| 13:31 |
benrob0329 |
I have just realized I can record cinematic passes as slow as possible, then speed them up in post as needed |
| 13:31 |
benrob0329 |
Why have I not thought of this before |
| 13:33 |
red-001 |
atorian37, I guess they just restart their router to get a new IP address |
| 13:34 |
red-001 |
also future ban only bans the player by name |
| 13:34 |
red-001 |
and only once |
| 13:41 |
IhrFussel |
I state "1 account per person" in the rules and I added it to the join message ... are people really too umb to see it? "oh i didnt know you could only have 1 account" -.- |
| 13:41 |
IhrFussel |
dumb* |
| 13:47 |
IhrFussel |
Maybe I should send it regularly in the chat as info message |
| 13:48 |
Raven262 |
IhrFussel, try adding a chat message that appears every 3 minutes, saying some of the rules. :P |
| 13:55 |
IhrFussel |
Raven262, not every 3 but there is a server info every 5 minutes that lists AFK players and I can add it there |
| 13:56 |
Raven262 |
Yeah, but that would make a long message. On android clients this can cover up the whole screen. |
| 13:56 |
Raven262 |
Better add another interval or something. |
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IhrFussel |
The AFK-list is mostly empty so it's fine there ... could max occupy 1 1/2 lines |
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| 15:46 |
Fixer |
hoooly crap, found misa texture pack for beta 1.7.3, this is rare stuff |
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| 16:40 |
rubenwardy |
atorian37: I recommend either xban or sban. xban is more stable, but may suffer from data loss after longer periods of time. sban is fairly unstable |
| 16:41 |
Mr_Pardison |
rubenwardy: why do you say sban is unstable? |
| 16:41 |
rubenwardy |
because it's failed to ban players multiple times |
| 16:41 |
Mr_Pardison |
that's a problem that I've come up against. |
| 16:41 |
rubenwardy |
and because it's rolling release you can't be sure if a commit will work |
| 16:42 |
Shara |
I've had no issues since the last update some time back |
| 16:42 |
Mr_Pardison |
solution is not to use : but rather , |
| 16:42 |
rubenwardy |
huh? |
| 16:42 |
Shara |
MR P, RC is still on the known to be glitchy version because I fail as a server owner |
| 16:42 |
Mr_Pardison |
you? fail? never. |
| 16:42 |
Shara |
Sorry - keep bugging me to update it |
| 16:44 |
Shara |
And yes, me, fail, always :) |
| 16:46 |
shivajiva |
rolling, rolling, rolling along |
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| 16:46 |
shivajiva |
sung ofc ^ |
| 16:46 |
Shara |
:D |
| 16:48 |
shivajiva |
now it's on a server at my disposal I should be able to find wth it's doing or what I'm not doing :D |
| 16:48 |
rubenwardy |
XD |
| 16:48 |
rubenwardy |
servers are the best way to test mods |
| 16:49 |
Shara |
You need lots of people to ban :) |
| 16:49 |
rubenwardy |
I found loads of bugs in CTF when hosting it |
| 16:49 |
Shara |
Finally a reason to wish for troublemakers :) |
| 16:54 |
Wayward_One |
lol |
| 16:54 |
Wayward_One |
hi all :) |
| 16:54 |
shivajiva |
Hiya :) |
| 16:56 |
Mr_Pardison |
\o Wayward_One |
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| 17:21 |
* Megaf |
sneaks in |
| 17:22 |
* Mr-Pardison |
spies a sneaking Megaf |
| 17:22 |
Megaf |
I'd go to a clothes optinal beach in Ireland today. If it wasn't 0C... |
| 17:24 |
Megaf |
nevermind the clothes, it's 0C |
| 17:27 |
Megaf |
Mr-Pardison: hows your server going? |
| 17:27 |
Mr-Pardison |
Megaf: I don't have a server. |
| 17:27 |
* twoelk |
notices Megaf is back in Europe |
| 17:27 |
Mr-Pardison |
I merely assist in the running of them. |
| 17:28 |
Mr-Pardison |
at least keeping things going smoothly while the admins are away or are busy. |
| 17:28 |
Megaf |
Mr-Pardison: I know the server doesnt belongs to you.. |
| 17:28 |
Megaf |
twoelk: Yes I am indeed |
| 17:28 |
Megaf |
got back to Ireland Monday |
| 17:28 |
Megaf |
welcomed by wind, cold and rain |
| 17:28 |
* twoelk |
looks out of the window as it snows outside and wonders how warm Brazil might be now |
| 17:28 |
Megaf |
very same weather the day I left |
| 17:29 |
Megaf |
twoelk: it was around 36C where I was |
| 17:30 |
Megaf |
I'm thinking wich browser I should install in my Android |
| 17:30 |
Megaf |
I quite like Opera Mini a lot |
| 17:30 |
Megaf |
but it has been sending ads in the lock screen |
| 17:30 |
twoelk |
it snowed somewhat the last two days here but it is too warm to stay so you might imagine the size of the puddles, ever growing |
| 17:31 |
Megaf |
Snowed here too yesterday, for a couple of hours, not enough to acumulate much on the ground tho, just on houses roofs |
| 17:33 |
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| 17:33 |
Krock |
< hi tenplus1 > |
| 17:33 |
Megaf |
Hi Krock |
| 17:33 |
Krock |
hi Megaf |
| 17:34 |
Megaf |
he is not here :P |
| 17:34 |
Mr-Pardison |
sadly. |
| 17:34 |
Krock |
I know. hence, the LT, GT signs |
| 17:34 |
Megaf |
sad is my GNOME 3 running at 640x480 |
| 17:35 |
Megaf |
I managed to start Debian that I have installed in my machine, inside virtualbox |
| 17:35 |
Megaf |
can't get the resultuion to work yet |
| 17:42 |
Megaf |
dat spelling |
| 17:45 |
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| 17:45 |
Shara |
I don't suppose we have any bored artists who feel like creating awesome node textures for me? :P |
| 17:46 |
* Megaf |
hides |
| 17:46 |
twoelk |
awesome as in disgusting? |
| 17:47 |
Megaf |
maybe as in ugly as heck |
| 17:47 |
Shara |
Well, I need ones for poisionous grass and marshland nodes... which may class as disgusting? |
| 17:48 |
Megaf |
twoelk: bad luck man, you have to make some textures now |
| 17:48 |
Shara |
Yay! :D |
| 17:49 |
twoelk |
well ... teachers said I could draw well but my sense of colors was ... meh ... not gonna tell |
| 17:50 |
Mr-Pardison |
Shara: https://github.com/tenplus1/mobs_monster/commit/20fba93293a87f5da7bfe5a1e6e9edc06b38ce01#diff-5425005fa4a440fd810bef540819f0a3 line 113. |
| 17:50 |
Shara |
Uhm... why do we want things bursting into flame? |
| 17:50 |
Mr-Pardison |
the obsidian. |
| 17:50 |
Shara |
twoelk: colours I can always adapt |
| 17:51 |
Megaf |
twoelk: worst thing that can happen is she not using the texture. Best thing is a lovely credits to you. |
| 17:51 |
Shara |
I'm honestly happy for any help I can get, because... I hate making textures |
| 17:52 |
Megaf |
in one of the mods I made I just ended up using invisible nodes because I didnt want to make textures for it |
| 17:52 |
* twoelk |
looks franticly for a place to hide |
| 17:52 |
Shara |
I'm borrowing random MTG ones for now, but they don't cover everything I need, even just as placeholders |
| 17:53 |
Megaf |
It ended up being one of the most liked mods of my server because people liked building invisible wallks and bridges for some reason |
| 17:53 |
* Shara |
eats all the hiding places and stares at twoelk |
| 17:53 |
twoelk |
oh, erm, got to print the next batch of 50 pages of my 500 page document - printer needs my attention - really - all true |
| 17:54 |
Megaf |
Shara: are you hungry for printers? |
| 17:54 |
Megaf |
or sheets of paper |
| 17:54 |
twoelk |
damn these new printers are way too fast :-D |
| 17:56 |
Shara |
:D |
| 18:00 |
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| 18:02 |
benrob0329 |
o/ |
| 18:02 |
* twoelk |
notices his version of paintNET is way outdated |
| 18:02 |
Mr-Pardison |
\o |
| 18:03 |
benrob0329 |
twoelk: Krita and/or Gimp :P |
| 18:03 |
benrob0329 |
Or aseprite if your doing Pixel Art |
| 18:05 |
twoelk |
LOL you mean I should dump windows Paintbrush after using it for 20+ years |
| 18:05 |
benrob0329 |
twoelk: thats what Microsoft did :^) |
| 18:06 |
twoelk |
it did? oops might have an old version |
| 18:08 |
Shara |
:D |
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| 18:09 |
Shara |
I probably would eat printers if that was what it took. |
| 18:18 |
* twoelk |
looks at the old printer he hasn't brought to the dump yet |
| 18:19 |
* Shara |
will dispose of it for textures? |
| 18:22 |
twoelk |
https://i.imgur.com/9A3TsI2.png hehe, at least the color looks evil |
| 18:24 |
Shara |
ohhhh |
| 18:24 |
Shara |
It's swirly! |
| 18:25 |
twoelk |
yeah more weed than grass |
| 18:27 |
twoelk |
https://i.imgur.com/SMiE5d8.png lol - somehow not the right direction |
| 18:33 |
Shara |
The only actual plants I have so far: http://gingercat.tk/dg/hw_suntwist.png |
| 18:33 |
Shara |
(probably taken at the worst angle possible too, but oh well :P) |
| 18:36 |
twoelk |
hmm, maybe I shouldn't smoke the stuff I draw https://i.imgur.com/t5Pv8Ow.png |
| 18:38 |
Shara |
Hah! :D |
| 18:38 |
Mr-Pardison |
never do that. |
| 18:38 |
Mr-Pardison |
you don't want to know what happens when you do. |
| 18:42 |
twoelk |
why do my plants look happy instead of evil let alone gloomy? |
| 18:45 |
Shara |
I'm not sure |
| 18:45 |
Shara |
Maybe try the node instead of a plant? |
| 18:48 |
twoelk |
oh, I did change the nodes :-( |
| 18:48 |
Shara |
But that was just colour change? |
| 18:48 |
twoelk |
compare the pictures |
| 18:48 |
twoelk |
yep |
| 18:48 |
Shara |
I'm hoping for fully new textures |
| 18:48 |
Shara |
I did a full set of colour changed grass nodes here: https://github.com/Ezhh/abri |
| 18:49 |
Shara |
That was my first test for learning how biome registration works, and I'm now working on a "real" set of biomes |
| 18:49 |
twoelk |
I said I'm no expert, might add I'm also quite lazy :-D |
| 18:49 |
Shara |
Same problem :D |
| 18:50 |
Shara |
That test was giving some interesting result like http://gingercat.tk/mt/colour_test03.png (big image sorry) |
| 18:54 |
twoelk |
https://i.imgur.com/Sp4sraj.png maybe purple is the way to go |
| 18:54 |
Shara |
Hmm |
| 18:55 |
* twoelk |
remembers toying with abri |
| 18:56 |
Shara |
I'll probably expand it more at some point, since it is kind of fun to wander round in, especially with all the different colour stone underground |
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twoelk |
https://i.imgur.com/SEllGnJ.png hmm, ok, new node texture still shows pattern and purple grass doesn't stand out enough, note the recolored redplants ;-P |
| 19:11 |
twoelk |
actually them green on purple plants look happily healthy |
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| 19:12 |
Shara |
Making sure there is no unncessary patterning when tiling is... well, let's use the word "fun" |
| 19:12 |
Shara |
unnecessary* |
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| 19:16 |
* twoelk |
watches sheep wandering over purple grass notices a white rabbit nibbling at his feet - somewhat surreal |
| 19:17 |
* ThomasMonroe |
wonders what world twoelk lives on |
| 19:18 |
Krock |
twoelk, watch another video |
| 19:18 |
Mr-Pardison |
g2g cya in a bit |
| 19:18 |
Mr-Pardison |
I live in my own little world. |
| 19:19 |
Mr-Pardison |
It's OK, they know me here. |
| 19:19 |
ThomasMonroe |
lol |
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| 21:06 |
twoelk |
some strange place https://i.imgur.com/QBBWcvx.jpg |
| 21:07 |
ThomasMonroe |
tx pack? |
| 21:09 |
Fixer |
twoelk: hold my peanuts https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTrHh8SWkAAtpeX.jpg:large |
| 21:10 |
twoelk |
ermm, no please, even if they are as small as peanuts, no thank you, I'll just take that monitor :-P |
| 21:12 |
Fixer |
twoelk: not sure if you understanded the meme though |
| 21:38 |
Fixer |
faaaaaaaaaaaaster |
| 21:38 |
Fixer |
god damn firefox |
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| 22:41 |
Sokomine |
Shara: if you discover any artists hiding somewhere, please tell me! i often need textures as well. most of the time i manage to catch vanessae :-) sometimes jordach |
| 22:42 |
Sokomine |
megaf: plenty of my nodes share the textures from the locked chest. textures...are more difficult than creating something complex |
| 22:44 |
Shara |
Sokomine: Still digging for some. |
| 22:44 |
Megaf |
Fixer: I gave up on firefox |
| 22:44 |
rubenwardy |
:O |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
works well for me |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
well |
| 22:45 |
Megaf |
Fixer: I'm using mostly Safari on macOS, the Preview version |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
tabs occasionally freeze with quantum |
| 22:45 |
Megaf |
amazingly fast |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
hoping they're fix that |
| 22:45 |
rubenwardy |
hmm, hang is probably a better world. The browser is still usable, just not that tab |
| 22:45 |
Megaf |
on Linux I'm using mostly Opera |
| 22:45 |
Sokomine |
twoelk: if it's surreal, add it to ethereal |
| 22:48 |
Fixer |
i'm using ESR version though |
| 22:49 |
Sokomine |
havn't found a really usable browser for android yet. something that serves me instead of the next best advertiser/abuser would be welcomed |
| 22:55 |
Megaf |
Just took this macro of my laptops LCD screen. https://imgur.com/a/pdnr7 |
| 22:59 |
rubenwardy |
your DPI's a little low |
| 22:59 |
Megaf |
or de magification is a little huge... |
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| 23:06 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: phones OLED https://i.imgur.com/yrxkVLv.jpg |
| 23:07 |
Megaf |
where is a bunch of red pixels is actually white |
| 23:09 |
rubenwardy |
nice |
| 23:13 |
rubenwardy |
is there a way to make a one way node without relying on weird engine bugs? |
| 23:14 |
Shara |
One way in what sense? |
| 23:14 |
rubenwardy |
you can walk through it in one direction, but not another |
| 23:14 |
rubenwardy |
*the other |
| 23:15 |
rubenwardy |
guess what I'd like this for :P |
| 23:15 |
Shara |
No idea, but often wanted it myself for things |
| 23:16 |
Shara |
Even my one way glass nodes are perfect sadly :( |
| 23:16 |
Shara |
aren't* |
| 23:16 |
Shara |
So one way walking seemed too far |
| 23:17 |
Megaf |
rubenwardy: you can make some traps using mesecons... |
| 23:17 |
Megaf |
and ghoststones |
| 23:17 |
rubenwardy |
heh, that's not very clean |
| 23:17 |
rubenwardy |
especially if there's a large amount of players |
| 23:17 |
rubenwardy |
ie: ctf |
| 23:19 |
Shara |
I'm so tired of so many issues with flickering water :( |
| 23:21 |
Fixer |
Shara: me too, lets bump that issue on github |
| 23:21 |
Shara |
Can't have ice using alpha over water |
| 23:21 |
Shara |
Can't place nodebox in water |
| 23:21 |
shivajiva |
isn't that the dreaded layering of alpha textures nobody wants to attempt? |
| 23:21 |
Shara |
It's like a crazy flashing mad disco |
| 23:22 |
Shara |
Yup, seems so |
| 23:22 |
Shara |
I can't even use my porthole nodes under water due to it |
| 23:23 |
rubenwardy |
semi-transparency is difficult |
| 23:23 |
rubenwardy |
well, heh |
| 23:23 |
rubenwardy |
requires multiple rendering passes and sorting |
| 23:23 |
Shara |
Hmm, actually portholes aren't flickering.. but the weird thing is, even when placed deep underwater, the inside of the node shows a water surface |
| 23:23 |
Fixer |
i was complaining for this for years |
| 23:24 |
Sokomine |
Shara: i'm still looking for some ships to place on the map.... |
| 23:24 |
shivajiva |
the issue is 5 years old I believe |
| 23:24 |
Fixer |
shivajiva: 8 years ago iirc |
| 23:24 |
shivajiva |
and yea ruben that's a lot of processing just to clean it up |
| 23:26 |
Shara |
Look at this: http://gingercat.tk/dg/porthole_problem.png |
| 23:26 |
Shara |
The water surface is a couple of nodes above |
| 23:26 |
Shara |
But within that node, you see a new water surface |
| 23:27 |
Shara |
Why would water go inside a nodebox? |
| 23:27 |
Shara |
I can noclip inside it, see air, and see a water surface both below and above me |
| 23:29 |
Shara |
And then on other nodeboxes, the water texture can be seen flashing on their sides instead |
| 23:29 |
Fixer |
wth, where is that PR with alpha texures, no way it is closed |
| 23:31 |
Shara |
Hmm, oddly, whether it flickers seems like it might have something to do with height (y) placement |
| 23:32 |
rubenwardy |
I'd also love to make clouds volumetric |
| 23:32 |
Fixer |
Shara: bump this https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5083 |
| 23:33 |
rubenwardy |
so when you're inside the fog is closer and white, also less weird edge effects when inside |
| 23:33 |
Shara |
Fixer: There was another issue which had something about this, and which even had a video wuzzy posted of my exact problem |
| 23:33 |
Fixer |
Shara: about ice? |
| 23:33 |
Shara |
And I'm not even sure what this second water level inside a node thing is to do with |
| 23:33 |
Shara |
Fixer: yes |
| 23:34 |
Fixer |
it is all about this z-sorting |
| 23:39 |
Shara |
Oh well, added comment |
| 23:44 |
Megaf |
tongue* |
| 23:45 |
Megaf |
do I still* |
| 23:45 |
Megaf |
Where's the customer service? If I go to the church, will they give me a refund? |
| 23:48 |
Megaf |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_against_God |
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