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	MinetestBot | 
	sofar: Jan-12 02:06 UTC <benrob0329> I think this mod is unmaintained, but its a neat old mod that could be adopted by mt-mods: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2588 | 
        
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	| 09:50 | 
	twoelk | 
	wow - heavy snowing out there | 
        
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	| 12:05 | 
	Megaf | 
	lovely windy day here twoelk | 
        
	| 12:05 | 
	Megaf | 
	4C, sunny, 18 KM/h | 
        
	| 12:05 | 
	Megaf | 
	I mean | 
        
	| 12:06 | 
	Megaf | 
	18 meters/second | 
        
	| 12:06 | 
	Megaf | 
	Oo | 
        
	| 12:06 | 
	Megaf | 
	"Dangerously windy later this afternoon and partly cloudy starting tonight, continuing until tomorrow afternoon." | 
        
	| 12:06 | 
	Megaf | 
	wind gust up to 46 KM/h, not too bad | 
        
	| 12:15 | 
	Megaf | 
	sofar: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=arch-antergos-clear&num=1 | 
        
	| 12:15 | 
	Megaf | 
	!title | 
        
	| 12:15 | 
	MinetestBot | 
	Megaf: Arch Linux vs. Antergos vs. Clear Linux vs. Ubuntu Benchmarks - Phoronix | 
        
	| 12:15 | 
	Megaf | 
	(I didn't read the article yet) | 
        
	| 12:15 | 
	Megaf | 
	reading now | 
        
	| 12:17 | 
	Megaf | 
	I see ClearLinux performance has increased a lot recently | 
        
	| 12:26 | 
	twoelk | 
	seems I'm a bit north of the high winds, just a lot of heavy snow here. Trees are starting to break under the load. Had a commuter train parking in front of my window for some unscheduled time | 
        
	| 12:28 | 
	twoelk | 
	I wonder how well a server would run on one of these :) https://www.csl-computer.com/shop/index.php?cPath=5_278&pl=nav | 
        
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	| 12:35 | 
	Megaf | 
	twoelk: my current MT server runs on hardware similar but way older | 
        
	| 12:36 | 
	Megaf | 
	Ok, breakfast time | 
        
	| 12:36 | 
	Megaf | 
	Ping of coffee with bread with butter and peanut butter, that's what I will prepare, cya | 
        
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	| 12:52 | 
	Megaf | 
	Oo | 
        
	| 12:52 | 
	Megaf | 
	ping of coffee? | 
        
	| 12:52 | 
	Megaf | 
	I meant pint of coffee, latte actually | 
        
	| 12:52 | 
	Megaf | 
	Hi Fixer | 
        
	| 12:52 | 
	Megaf | 
	with no sugar | 
        
	| 12:55 | 
	shivajiva | 
	may as well go decaf Megaf :) | 
        
	| 12:56 | 
	Megaf | 
	I like caffeine shivajiva | 
        
	| 12:56 | 
	Megaf | 
	:P | 
        
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	| 13:08 | 
	Fixer | 
	hi | 
        
	| 13:12 | 
	shivajiva | 
	it's bad for you Megaf lol | 
        
	| 13:12 | 
	shivajiva | 
	Hi Fixer | 
        
	| 13:20 | 
	Megaf | 
	shivajiva: is it? | 
        
	| 13:20 | 
	Megaf | 
	shivajiva: do you eat sugar? | 
        
	| 13:20 | 
	shivajiva | 
	nope not directly, I use honey :P | 
        
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	| 13:42 | 
	CBugDCoder | 
	Hi Mr_Pardison , nerzhul | 
        
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	Mr-Pardison | 
	o/ | 
        
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	shivajiva | 
	nothing like bee spit for sweetening drinks lol | 
        
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	twoelk | 
	uff, finaly made it to office - lot's of trees dropping random stuff on roads - including sometimes themselves | 
        
	| 14:50 | 
	Raven262 | 
	Sounds like quite a storm, twoelk. | 
        
	| 14:51 | 
	Raven262 | 
	Its been a while since I had one of those over here. | 
        
	| 14:51 | 
	twoelk | 
	the storm is more south of me, it's super heavy wet snow | 
        
	| 14:51 | 
	Raven262 | 
	Not saying that yesterday's weather has been any nice, something between rain and snow. | 
        
	| 14:51 | 
	Raven262 | 
	Oh, same thing it seems :P | 
        
	| 14:52 | 
	Mr_Pardison | 
	WE only got the bitter cold and some tiny ice pellets that fell for a while. | 
        
	| 14:52 | 
	Mr_Pardison | 
	still stuck with the cold tho :/ | 
        
	| 14:52 | 
	twoelk | 
	a firend driving south has been stuck on the motorway for hours though | 
        
	| 14:53 | 
	Raven262 | 
	So you probably got the worse version of the weather that was here yesterday. | 
        
	| 14:54 | 
	twoelk | 
	on the way I passed 4 cars in the ditch that I noticed | 
        
	| 14:54 | 
	Raven262 | 
	Even though the wind here was quite strong, I don't recall seeing trees being destroyed. | 
        
	| 14:54 | 
	twoelk | 
	might be more under the snow :-P | 
        
	| 14:56 | 
	twoelk | 
	it has been raining for weeks, so the ground is all muddy - nothing for exposed trees to hold on to | 
        
	| 14:56 | 
	Raven262 | 
	Ah | 
        
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	| 15:11 | 
	RobbieF | 
	Good morning. | 
        
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	Mr-Pardison | 
	morning. | 
        
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	| 15:53 | 
	Wayward_One | 
	hi all :) | 
        
	| 15:53 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	hi Wayward_One (again :P ) | 
        
	| 15:54 | 
	Wayward_One | 
	lol | 
        
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	| 16:06 | 
	benrob0329 | 
	Shara: backface culling? | 
        
	| 16:14 | 
	Shara | 
	No idea | 
        
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	Fixer | 
	[on] | 
        
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	| 16:36 | 
	benrob0329 | 
	Shara: for potholes, a normal node with blackface culling | 
        
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	| 17:31 | 
	Shara | 
	benrob0329: thanks, will look at it later | 
        
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	twoelk | 
	this is cool ->  https://www.windy.com/?48.807,12.876,5 | 
        
	| 18:31 | 
	Krock | 
	Indeed cool. Too cool for me. Stop winding. | 
        
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	Sokomine | 
	twoelk: not cool. mostly empty page | 
        
	| 18:33 | 
	twoelk | 
	uhm probably full of javascript | 
        
	| 18:33 | 
	Sokomine | 
	maybe the actual content of the page blew away. one of our neighbour's trees fell. seems nothing got dammaged (apart from the tree) | 
        
	| 18:33 | 
	twoelk | 
	the page shows the windflow among other things | 
        
	| 18:35 | 
	Sokomine | 
	ah. thanks | 
        
	| 18:38 | 
	twoelk | 
	yeah, a patched leaflet version, that's javascript then | 
        
	| 18:39 | 
	Sokomine | 
	yavascript is bad | 
        
	| 18:40 | 
	Krock | 
	yawascript is even worse | 
        
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	twoelk | 
	it shows the storm center is now moving from north of Dresden eastwards towards Breslau/Wroclaw | 
        
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	benrob0329 | 
	JabaScript is a Superset of HutScript | 
        
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	Wayward_One | 
	lol | 
        
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	| 20:08 | 
	Shara | 
	Today's episode of "Let's moan about Minetest!": Dungeons that float in the sea. Why? :( | 
        
	| 20:09 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	what kind of dungeons? | 
        
	| 20:09 | 
	Shara | 
	The normal kind that MT generates | 
        
	| 20:10 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	mapgen. | 
        
	| 20:10 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	yell at it. | 
        
	| 20:10 | 
	Shara | 
	not helpful. | 
        
	| 20:10 | 
	Shara | 
	mapgen doesn't care | 
        
	| 20:10 | 
	Shara | 
	It is a mean and evil monster | 
        
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	* Mr-Pardison | 
	makes some tea | 
        
	| 20:11 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	read yin a few minutes. | 
        
	| 20:11 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	want some? | 
        
	| 20:11 | 
	Shara | 
	Always | 
        
	| 20:12 | 
	* Shara | 
	really wants an option to set max dungeon spawn height | 
        
	| 20:12 | 
	Shara | 
	or dungeon generation I guess | 
        
	| 20:13 | 
	Shara | 
	I mean, you'd think they'd at least stay under 0 | 
        
	| 20:14 | 
	Shara | 
	But I am finding them above 20 in height on this map | 
        
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	* Mr-Pardison | 
	hands Shara a warm mug of tea | 
        
	| 20:15 | 
	Shara | 
	Thank you | 
        
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	* twoelk | 
	thinks dungeons up high can be a nice surprise | 
        
	| 20:37 | 
	Shara | 
	They look quite ugly though | 
        
	| 20:37 | 
	Shara | 
	Especially when you get a nice big sea with lots of them floating in | 
        
	| 20:37 | 
	Shara | 
	Players already make enough weirdly placed cobble shacks that I don't want mapgen helping them :D | 
        
	| 20:38 | 
	Shara | 
	Why do I get the feeling I'm going to end up staring at dungeon code sooner or later? :( | 
        
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	| 20:40 | 
	IhrFussel | 
	Did MTG 0.4.17 change something about stairs? I suddenly see straw slabs as unknown nodes | 
        
	| 20:41 | 
	Shara | 
	There was a correction to straw stairs/slabs that I did some time back, but it shouldn't cause them to be unknown | 
        
	| 20:42 | 
	Shara | 
	Hmm, that was back in July, so I'm sure someone would have noticed by now if that was a problem | 
        
	| 20:43 | 
	IhrFussel | 
	Are straw slabs even part of the default MTG? I don't find "straw" in the init.lua | 
        
	| 20:43 | 
	Shara | 
	Check farming mod | 
        
	| 20:44 | 
	Shara | 
	Are you using MTG's stairs mod or a different stairs mod? | 
        
	| 20:44 | 
	IhrFussel | 
	Oh so they are registered from the farming mod? I removed that one since I have farming by tenplus1 | 
        
	| 20:44 | 
	Shara | 
	Yup | 
        
	| 20:45 | 
	Shara | 
	Stairs previously had farming as a dependency, which when you think about it makes no sense | 
        
	| 20:46 | 
	Shara | 
	You should not need farming in order to have stairs | 
        
	| 20:47 | 
	Shara | 
	Ten even gave the PR a thumb up, so I assumed he'd update his mods if needed | 
        
	| 20:48 | 
	IhrFussel | 
	To be honest I don't have the newest version of his mod probably... I just know in 0.4.16 it worked fine, so it's probably just the missing farming mod from MTG | 
        
	| 20:49 | 
	Shara | 
	I don't see straw in his at all, though I didn't look very far yet | 
        
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	| 20:56 | 
	Megaf | 
	So freaking coldd today | 
        
	| 20:56 | 
	Megaf | 
	cant even feel my hands | 
        
	| 20:56 | 
	Megaf | 
	can moved them either | 
        
	| 20:56 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	^ me this morning. | 
        
	| 20:57 | 
	Megaf | 
	I just got home | 
        
	| 20:57 | 
	Megaf | 
	walking for more than one hour in this cold | 
        
	| 20:58 | 
	Megaf | 
	Just watched Star Wars | 
        
	| 20:58 | 
	Megaf | 
	Im free! finally free! | 
        
	| 20:58 | 
	Megaf | 
	from spoilers and stuff | 
        
	| 20:58 | 
	Megaf | 
	I can now return to the internet | 
        
	| 21:00 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	at least you were moving to generate heat. | 
        
	| 21:00 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	I was stuck waiting for the bus for nearly 40 minutes this morning,. | 
        
	| 21:03 | 
	Megaf | 
	I could wait and take the bus or walk for one hour Mr-Pardison | 
        
	| 21:03 | 
	Megaf | 
	Ive chosen to talk | 
        
	| 21:04 | 
	Mr-Pardison | 
	this was this morning to get to school. | 
        
	| 21:04 | 
	Megaf | 
	I walk one hour to get to college too ;) | 
        
	| 21:10 | 
	twoelk | 
	duh, didn't mapgen check touching nodes when placing dungeons to choose a material to build them of? - must have been some other dungeon mod then :-( | 
        
	| 21:14 | 
	Shara | 
	twoelk: I don't have a problem with what it builds them of, just where it builds them | 
        
	| 21:14 | 
	* Shara | 
	was just wandering round shadow stone dungeons... (...which were floating in the sea) | 
        
	| 21:22 | 
	twoelk | 
	well if the dungeons touch air on all sides the could become a zeppelin, if on water become a pirate ship :-P | 
        
	| 21:34 | 
	Shara | 
	:P | 
        
	| 21:34 | 
	Shara | 
	I have dungeon wall material controlled by biome at the moment, but can't see a way for anything more flexible than that | 
        
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	| 22:51 | 
	ThomasMonroe | 
	what do you guys think of my rotating collision box algorithm idea at the end of #3996 | 
        
	| 22:51 | 
	ShadowBot | 
	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3996 -- Thoughts about a more accurate shaped selection/collision box? |