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	| 13:03 | rubenwardy | https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/free-and-open-source-voxel-game-engine-minetest-has-a-new-release-up.16388 | 
        
	| 13:11 | nerzhul | i'm late but we just released 5.2.0 ? | 
        
	| 13:12 | nerzhul | i saw that we now have a split between old client and the new client | 
        
	| 13:12 | rubenwardy | do we? | 
        
	| 13:12 | nerzhul | seems that master is on 5.3 branch i think so :D | 
        
	| 13:13 | rubenwardy | 5.3.0-dev? | 
        
	| 13:13 | nerzhul | great job for the content database :) | 
        
	| 13:13 | nerzhul | yep | 
        
	| 13:13 | rubenwardy | that's correct, master is the development version | 
        
	| 13:13 | nerzhul | don't you forget me ruben ? :) | 
        
	| 13:14 | nerzhul | nice changelog | 
        
	| 13:14 | rubenwardy | I don't understnad what problem you're trying to point out | 
        
	| 13:14 | nerzhul | just a question, i saw that we have nice doc on minetest.github.io | 
        
	| 13:14 | rubenwardy | but it's nice to see you arround again | 
        
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	| 13:14 | nerzhul | is dev.minetest.net maintained or is this just like 1 year ago before my afk | 
        
	| 13:15 | nerzhul | is dev.minetest.net un maintained or is this just like 1 year ago before my afk | 
        
	| 13:15 | rubenwardy | the wiki is still unmaintained, yes | 
        
	| 13:17 | nerzhul | the new official source is minetest.github.io then ? | 
        
	| 13:17 | rubenwardy | they're different | 
        
	| 13:17 | rubenwardy | minetest.gitlab.io is lua_api.txt but rendered into HTML | 
        
	| 13:17 | rubenwardy | the dev wiki was never official | 
        
	| 13:17 | nerzhul | maybe we should try to do something around it ? | 
        
	| 13:18 | nerzhul | it's a little bit slow these days , and it seems we may have duplicated data | 
        
	| 13:18 | nerzhul | and what about https://wiki.minetest.net/Main_Page ? is this maintained or in the same state ? this one may be replaced by the minetest.gitlab.io no ? | 
        
	| 13:18 | rubenwardy | the wiki mainpage is for players, not for modders | 
        
	| 13:19 | nerzhul | okay fine | 
        
	| 13:19 | rubenwardy | the modding information on the dev should probably go | 
        
	| 13:19 | nerzhul | okay, i know i just returned but wanted to be sure i'm up to date :D | 
        
	| 13:20 | nerzhul | i will try to take time on the optimisation part i think, like before, because i will try to re-open a server but on my rock64 kubernetes cluster, then it will be slower than my prvious dedicated one :D | 
        
	| 13:21 | rubenwardy | yay | 
        
	| 13:22 | nerzhul | what about the current minetest performance ? when i left on 5.0.0 it was quite fine (if we discard the heavy mods themselves), are there any performance changes since then or the architecture is similar ? I saw we never continued the project to reorgarnized the source tree | 
        
	| 13:23 | rubenwardy | there have been a few optimisation projects. For example, caching abm nodes and some networking optimisations | 
        
	| 13:23 | rubenwardy | but I'm not sure | 
        
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	| 13:26 | nerzhul | okay | 
        
	| 13:27 | rubenwardy | I haven't had much time for Minetest in the last few months, but I will no | 
        
	| 13:27 | rubenwardy | alongside learning kubernetes | 
        
	| 13:28 | nerzhul | haha, i'm working for Veepee now and i manage the Kubernetes from scratch infrasture i designed with few other SRE and our Platform team :) | 
        
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	| 13:48 | kilbith | celeron55, will the forum VPS be fixed eventually? | 
        
	| 13:50 | celeron55 | yeah, the main problem with it is that this breakage coincided with a very slow process of migrating it elsewhere | 
        
	| 13:50 | celeron55 | so it's now caught into the very slow process | 
        
	| 13:50 | nerzhul | yeah the wiki are slowed down too :( | 
        
	| 13:52 | celeron55 | well let's do a quick test | 
        
	| 13:53 | celeron55 | i'll shut down the forum and we'll see if everything else works fine then | 
        
	| 13:53 | celeron55 | done | 
        
	| 13:55 | celeron55 | i think the wikis work normally with the forum shut down | 
        
	| 13:58 | celeron55 | now it's "up" again | 
        
	| 13:59 | kilbith | still unresponsive | 
        
	| 14:00 | celeron55 | well obviously; restarting it or the entire VPS does nothing | 
        
	| 14:00 | celeron55 | there are no easy solutions to this | 
        
	| 14:00 | celeron55 | aside from moving it to a more powerful server | 
        
	| 14:02 | celeron55 | i'm very particular in how it's run security wise so that's not easy either | 
        
	| 14:02 | kilbith | well I guess this is a collateral victim of corona | 
        
	| 14:03 | celeron55 | i don't really know... my statistics show no obvious increase in traffic | 
        
	| 14:03 | celeron55 | who knows, maybe someone started mining bitcoins using injected php code | 
        
	| 14:03 | celeron55 | 8) | 
        
	| 14:04 | celeron55 | not likely though | 
        
	| 14:04 | celeron55 | i think the VPS provider is just bullshitting me in saying they have no performance issues | 
        
	| 14:04 | celeron55 | this looks exactly as if their performance just degraded a lot | 
        
	| 14:05 | celeron55 | i don't have a way to compare because i have no reference measurements | 
        
	| 14:05 | kilbith | http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2020-04-10#i_5665001 | 
        
	| 14:05 | celeron55 | that's for www.minetest.net | 
        
	| 14:06 | celeron55 | nowadays it's a cname to github pages | 
        
	| 14:06 | celeron55 | so, not a cause | 
        
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	| 14:08 | celeron55 | the current problem occurred very briefly on 2020-03-24 and then started again permanently on 2020-04-03 | 
        
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	| 18:39 | rubenwardy | Made an RTS mod:   https://youtu.be/jB_sFZGRUgw   //   https://content.minetest.net/packages/rubenwardy/conquer/   //   vps.rubenwardy.com 30001 | 
        
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	| 18:42 | nerzhul | rubenwardy: lol nice one | 
        
	| 18:43 | rubenwardy | (it's for the combat mod jam ran by the discord) | 
        
	| 18:49 | nerzhul | it's a very nice thing :D | 
        
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	| 19:01 | Sokomine | rubenwardy: cute little archers! but i wish they'd be allowed to live a more happy life - not having to slaughter each other! | 
        
	| 19:01 | rubenwardy | :D | 
        
	| 19:01 | * Sokomine | secretly builds some tiny homes for rubenwardys soldiers where they can hide and live | 
        
	| 19:02 | Sokomine | very nice idea to make them smaller than players | 
        
	| 19:02 | rubenwardy | the maths to aim the archers is painful, given the parabolic curve. After a few pages of derivations, I eventually found a random wikipedia page | 
        
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