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00:30 est31 any way to get path_user from inside lua?
00:31 est31 porting::path_user
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00:33 lordawe hi guys
00:34 lordawe is any linux user here pls?
00:34 marktraceur !ask
00:34 marktraceur lordawe: Hello! When you're on IRC it's usually good practice to jump right in and ask a question, as it saves time for everyone involved :) how can we help you?
00:35 lordawe I have maged to install and run MT 0.4.11 on Kodibuntu (lubuntu)
00:35 lordawe but I can't find where is minetest.conf stored
00:35 lordawe I am ew to linux
00:35 lordawe new
00:35 marktraceur lordawe: You may need to create it.
00:36 lordawe well, I even do not know where is the rest of MT files :)
00:36 marktraceur Well, where did you put them?
00:37 lordawe i have installed it from Synaptic
00:37 lordawe and executable is in /usr/share/applications
00:38 lordawe I just see it under menu>games>minetest
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00:44 lordawe there is something in /usr/bin/X11/
00:46 lordawe minetest and minetestserver
00:47 acerspyro wait what
00:47 acerspyro Wtf would it be doing in /usr/bin/X11?
00:48 lordawe I have found it
00:48 lordawe in /usr/share/minetest
00:49 lordawe that in X11 was some symlink
00:49 acerspyro impossible
00:49 acerspyro oh the config
00:49 acerspyro ok
00:50 lordawe please, how can I run MT server in lubuntu? it should autostart after the boot
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00:51 lordawe i can run it on windows easily
00:53 lordawe oh, I have found it http://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server
00:53 lordawe thx
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01:09 lordawe minetest.conf was in hidden dir /home/user/.minetest/
01:10 lordawe cya
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01:28 neal have you guys been haggled by mojang or microsoft?
01:29 acerspyro No
01:29 acerspyro and never will
01:29 neal cool
01:29 acerspyro We are true to our open-source
01:29 acerspyro We stand high on the pile of cocaine and dope.
01:30 acerspyro That is how we get our money. Fuck corporations.
01:30 neal how hard is it to mod the game?
01:30 acerspyro neal: very not hard.
01:30 acerspyro Just learn some lua, learn how to use the API
01:30 acerspyro And that should be it
01:31 Caleneledh I can attest to that.  It's a little unusual at first (especially if you haven't used lua before) but it's fairly easy to pick up.
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01:32 est31 I want my if (value = get_value) == nil
01:32 sofar was reasonably easy for me to switch from bukkit to minetest, even wrote a game engine C++ patch already within 2 weeks of hacking a lua mod
01:33 acerspyro sofar sogood, sowhat?
01:33 sofar the problem is that I've identified at least 4-5 areas where major work needs to be done - so my TODO has grown ;)
01:33 crazyR ^ +1
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01:59 Brains sofar: That isn't a problem, that is opportunity!  </crazy_person>
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03:31 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Write common mapgen params to map_meta.txt on world initialization ad690c4 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ad690c46b10423b23d515bda0e89228b51f5b5e9 (2015-01-27T22:29:28-05:00)
03:38 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Prevent null concatenation when /deleteblocks is provided an incorrect format a8ec787 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/a8ec7876a68cb4abbf2d517526822f17d7ac0efc (2015-01-27T22:36:53-05:00)
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03:50 T4im is there any active use of get_craft_recipe?
03:51 T4im I think it returns the locked chest recipe for me when I request the default chest :/
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04:09 ZionMoulder Does anyone know what happened to Craig's Server?
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04:17 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Fix uninitialized variable m_database_delete in Database_SQLite3 4d15d63 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/4d15d631349005528e8578a5750ad9a1b8cefe39 (2015-01-28T05:01:07+01:00)
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05:48 sofar in git, it appears door sounds don't play if you use the door bottom instead of the top
05:48 sofar anyone seen that?
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05:56 T4im hmm… shouldn't they share the collisionbox by now?
05:56 T4im eh… selectionbox
05:56 T4im oh they don't
05:56 T4im well that would explain that
05:57 T4im while I don't have that problem with the sound, having two separate selectionboxes for the same door seems unnecessary
05:58 T4im though your sound problem is probably introduced by 6157982… haven't that locally yet
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06:23 LazyJ What are the pros and cons of using mesh nodes in Minetest?
06:23 LazyJ When to use them when not to use them, why, etc.
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09:53 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Data Protection Day! :-D
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10:32 kaeza mornings
10:33 n4x afternoons
10:36 LazyJ o/
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13:23 zatherz hmm, I haven't played this for a while and wanted to check it out again
13:23 zatherz but the game hangs when I join a server
13:25 zatherz nothing in log
13:26 zatherz with --verbose I see that it hangs after "14:26:00: INFO[main]: Audio: Deinitializing..."
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13:33 zatherz loading worlds also doesn't work
13:37 twoelk zatherz: what servers are you trying?
13:37 zatherz new local world and m.ayntest.net
13:37 zatherz none of servers from the server list work too
13:37 zatherz it even hangs on non existant servers
13:38 twoelk it always hangs on connecting to if the server does not exist
13:38 zatherz but what about it hanging on local worlds and existing servers?
13:40 twoelk https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2219 <- like that?
13:40 zatherz no
13:41 zatherz no additional mods are installed and it does not segfault
13:41 zatherz it just hangs
13:41 zatherz the game hangs I mean
13:41 twoelk hehe or that? -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=4057&amp;p=168553#p168552
13:41 zatherz no
13:41 twoelk ah new issue
13:41 twoelk cool
13:42 zatherz using Arch Linux x86_64
13:42 zatherz minetest 0.4.11
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13:42 zatherz and irrlicht 1.8.1
13:42 zatherz I'll try minetest-git from UAR
13:42 zatherz *AUR
13:43 twoelk 0.4.11 stable was pretty unstable :D
13:44 zatherz building
13:44 twoelk that's why v0.4.12 is only a few hours away or days or ....
13:45 zatherz ...years
13:46 * twoelk btw hasn't a clue how to rule out soundcard related problems
13:47 twoelk yeah like - reality takes a look at minetest relaease plan schedule and laughs
13:47 twoelk -a
13:49 sfan5 zatherz: if nothing helps you can compile a build that doesn't include sound support
13:51 Kalabasa How do I get the entity name of an entity?
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13:58 Kalabasa Hm. get_entity_name() is deprecated.
13:58 Kalabasa What's the new way
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13:59 Kalabasa Agh whatever. I'm using get_entity_name()
14:00 Kalabasa Which doesn't work
14:05 diemartin Kalabasa, obj:get_luaentity().name
14:05 Kalabasa Ok, thanks.
14:05 Kalabasa class properties aren't in the lua api documentation. only methods...
14:07 diemartin they are here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2735
14:07 diemartin but `name` is not listed...
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15:20 niebieski Hey guys, I'm trying to build the game using the one line script on the forums but it doesn't work, I'm using Ubuntu 12.4
15:21 niebieski is it because the game is currently is unbuildable for this version ?
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15:28 sfan5 niebieski: what error do you get?
15:30 niebieski It's a block of text actually.
15:30 Neolink_ Hi world
15:30 Neolink_ i need help again
15:31 Neolink_ 18:29:35: ERROR[main]: ModError: ModError: Failed to load and run C:\Games\minetest-0.4.10-cb2d467-win32Sfen\bin\..\mods\neko259nature\init.lua
15:31 sfan5 niebieski: pastebin there error
15:31 Neolink_ What is it?
15:31 sfan5 Neolink_: what else does it say?
15:31 VanessaE Neolink_: outdated Minetest and outdated mod, and badly named mod.
15:32 niebieski sfan5, http://pastebin.com/Vmwvz5pV
15:33 sfan5 yup
15:33 sfan5 niebieski: libsnappy on ubuntu is broken
15:33 Neolink_ What is name good?
15:33 sfan5 niebieski: on 12.04 at least
15:33 VanessaE Neolink_: it should just be called "nature".
15:33 niebieski sfan5, Alright.
15:37 sfan5 niebieski: either build with leveldb disabled (-DENABLE_LEVELDB=0) or uninstall leveldb, download https://sfan5.pf-control.de/libleveldb-1.18-ubuntu12.04.7z and extract it into /usr/
15:37 Neolink_ good, i have renamed mods and it work
15:38 Neolink_ Thanks you
15:38 VanessaE Neolink_: you should consider the plantlife modpack instead.
15:38 VanessaE the old ature mod is badly outdated
15:38 VanessaE nature*
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15:41 Neolink_ sfan5: your client (0.4.11) don't work on my computere
15:42 VanessaE Neolink_: I don't suppose you're running Windows 7 are you?
15:42 sfan5 Neolink_: try updating to a newer version
15:43 Neolink_ VanessaE: i had downloaded latest version of this mod
15:43 VanessaE Neolink_: what windows are you running?
15:43 Neolink_ XP
15:44 VanessaE oh.
15:44 Neolink_ I'm russian
15:44 Neolink_ Wa are poors all
15:45 niebieski Don't say that Neo.
15:45 exio4 could be worse, could be latin america
15:45 VanessaE sfan5: MichaelEh is unable to run any of your builds on either his XP (SP3) or win 7.1 Enterprise machines.  related?
15:46 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:46 sfan5 i dunno
15:49 hmmmm http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2015/01/27/9
15:50 niebieski sfan5, Thanks for the help it worked. :)
15:51 niebieski I disabled leveldb, but I don't know what is that really. xD
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16:30 niebieski I think this is not the updated version.
16:31 niebieski Because on the changelog it says that the dropped items are made larger and rotate faster which is not what I see.
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18:12 Neolink_ .
18:12 marktraceur ‽
18:12 Polsaker ,
18:12 Calinou ‽
18:12 Calinou marktraceur, chess?
18:13 marktraceur Not right now
18:13 marktraceur Maybe a bit later when I'm in the airport
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18:33 Krock wtf is going on with this wireless PCI card
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19:05 kaeza https://cdn.mediacru.sh/S/SDlRwygJbXEH.png
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19:34 Jordach kaeza, update yer BFD
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19:57 twoelk just noticed something strange
19:58 twoelk was playing on a server and the blocks above me were not loading
19:59 twoelk but when I dug som gravel the whole column would be calculated correctly
19:59 twoelk so that all not loaded gravel appeared when needing to fall
20:01 twoelk thus I could mine a stack of ten when only three where shown at any time
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20:16 rubenwardy http://mediacru.sh :(
20:18 rubenwardy http://a.pomf.se/lfcbkq.png
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20:36 twoelk I guess we will need our own media service at some time, maybe restricted to on subject forum posts :(
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21:09 kaeza mediacrush is dead D:
21:09 kaeza back to imgur then
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21:15 VanessaE "50 PB bandwidth used"  O_O
21:17 VanessaE too bad I don't have the storage for it :-/
21:18 Jordach sfan5, mediacrush is kill
21:18 Jordach press f to pay respects
21:24 kaeza lol
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21:39 * Jordach found an idiot in his nearest city
21:39 Jordach https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kR3acAgA5o
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21:50 sfan5 Jordach: ikr
21:51 Jordach hnnnngg
21:51 Jordach Unreal Engine 4 demos
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22:35 shadowzone How come we have the "Change Keys" button and the "f7" to toggle 3rd person view isn't in there? also, before you tell me to git pull and recompile I just did that about 5 minutes ago.
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23:07 est31 is there any lua function to determine the size of some text?
23:08 acerspyro y = ax + b
23:09 est31 that was a joke too, wasn't it?
23:13 acerspyro You thought I was serious?
23:18 est31 no
23:18 est31 :D
23:20 est31 I'm just asking, as the error handler from the main menu is very ugly with long lua errors: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/fstk/ui.lua#L62
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23:53 crazyR has anyone got a bash script that would make a map in 4 sections then merge the 4 sections into one...
23:54 acerspyro A bash script? Can a bash script do that?
23:54 crazyR i presume os. it would run the mapper 4 times with the diffent geometries then use image magik or somethihng to merge the images
23:54 crazyR *presume so

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