| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Karlton |
idk if it matters unless it is really really old |
| 00:01 |
Chanku |
I'd assume I'd have the latest for debian "wheezy" |
| 00:05 |
Karlton |
it also said it did not find curl |
| 00:06 |
Chanku |
I tried installing curl |
| 00:07 |
Chanku |
Although there's an issue with a dependancy |
| 00:08 |
Warr1024 |
last I remember you could disable curl, though that might cause you issues trying to connect to certain servers... |
| 00:09 |
Chanku |
Well I'm not going to be playing on servers that much |
| 00:09 |
Karlton |
I don't know what to say about installing curl other than it really doesn't have many dependencies |
| 00:10 |
Karlton |
other than a toolchain and some optional things |
| 00:11 |
Karlton |
glibc and ssl but I don't know how debian packaged it |
| 00:11 |
Warr1024 |
do you need just bare curl, or is there like a curl-dev or libcurl-dev thing involved? |
| 00:13 |
Chanku |
actually curl requires libcurl3 |
| 00:13 |
Chanku |
and the version I have is a version newer than the required dependency |
| 00:13 |
Karlton |
you only need libcurl then |
| 00:14 |
Chanku |
I have libcurl |
| 00:14 |
Chanku |
I just have a slightly newer version apparently |
| 00:14 |
Chanku |
:/ |
| 00:14 |
Pilcrow |
sorry, I suddenly got very busy. thefamilygrog66: that looks like what I want. will try later. gotta go. |
| 00:15 |
Karlton |
it should work with the latest curl |
| 00:15 |
Chanku |
I'm using Debian... |
| 00:15 |
Karlton |
v7.x.x |
| 00:16 |
Chanku |
So the version of curl in the repo requires an earlier version as opposed to my installed version |
| 00:16 |
Chanku |
Depends: libcurl3 (= 7.26.0-1+wheezy11) but 7.26.0-1+wheezy12 is installed |
| 00:16 |
est31 |
wow got another user my server who told players to stop in order to be abled to change skin |
| 00:17 |
Karlton |
by installed, you mean from source? |
| 00:17 |
Chanku |
No |
| 00:17 |
Chanku |
that's what I get from aptitude/apt-get when trying to install curl... |
| 00:18 |
Karlton |
then how do you have a higher version |
| 00:18 |
Chanku |
I don't know. |
| 00:18 |
Chanku |
I only have stable repos installed... |
| 00:18 |
est31 |
Chanku, what happens when you remove libcurl? |
| 00:18 |
est31 |
does it remove any important package? |
| 00:19 |
est31 |
if not, then removie it and reinstall |
| 00:19 |
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| 00:19 |
est31 |
remove* |
| 00:19 |
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| 00:19 |
Chanku |
It says, " cmake libcurl3 libxmlrpc-core-c3 virtualbox virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-qt" |
| 00:19 |
Chanku |
will be removed |
| 00:19 |
Johnsen2 |
Hello people |
| 00:21 |
est31 |
do apt-cache show virtualbox | grep curl |
| 00:21 |
est31 |
which version does it require? |
| 00:22 |
Chanku |
libcurl3 (>= 7.16.2) |
| 00:22 |
est31 |
ok do sudo dpkg -r --force-depends libcurl3 |
| 00:23 |
est31 |
and then install dev for libcurl |
| 00:23 |
est31 |
dev library |
| 00:23 |
est31 |
it will trigger a re-install of libcurl3 |
| 00:23 |
est31 |
without setting it as manually installed |
| 00:24 |
Chanku |
okay |
| 00:25 |
Chanku |
So what exactly happened |
| 00:25 |
Chanku |
Or at least what probably occured |
| 00:26 |
Chanku |
Anywho |
| 00:26 |
Chanku |
I'm still having an issue with openGL |
| 00:27 |
Karlton |
let me see if I can find a list of debian packages... |
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| 00:27 |
est31 |
Chanku, I think you got that lib as you tried to install minetest from the ppa |
| 00:27 |
est31 |
but only a theory |
| 00:27 |
Chanku |
okay |
| 00:31 |
Karlton |
do you have libgl1-mesa-dev installed? |
| 00:32 |
Karlton |
it needs the -dev if you are going to compile from source |
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| 00:35 |
Chanku |
Okay now I seem to be missing something for jpegs... |
| 00:35 |
Karlton |
libjpeg8-dev? |
| 00:35 |
Chanku |
doesn't state |
| 00:35 |
Chanku |
Could NOT find JPEG (missing: JPEG_LIBRARY JPEG_INCLUDE_DIR) |
| 00:35 |
Karlton |
I am just reading the packages off the readme |
| 00:36 |
Chanku |
Now bzip... |
| 00:37 |
est31 |
Chanku, can you try to do "sudo apt-get build-dep minetest"? |
| 00:37 |
est31 |
that will install all needed dependencies for the old version of minetest |
| 00:37 |
est31 |
but thats enough |
| 00:38 |
Chanku |
Well I don't have source things enabled in my sources.list...so I assume I'll have to enable those first...am I correct? |
| 00:38 |
Karlton |
there is a list of the packages for debian/ubuntu in the readme |
| 00:39 |
est31 |
Chanku, I dont think so |
| 00:39 |
est31 |
try it first without |
| 00:39 |
Chanku |
I did |
| 00:39 |
Chanku |
I got this: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list |
| 00:39 |
Chanku |
I have them in my sources.list file |
| 00:39 |
Chanku |
just commented out |
| 00:41 |
Karlton |
"sudo apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev zlib1g-dev libjsoncpp-dev" |
| 00:41 |
Karlton |
that is in the readme for compiling from source on debian/ubuntu |
| 00:41 |
Chanku |
and it seems one of my packages is messed up again... |
| 00:41 |
Chanku |
lincurl2-gnutls |
| 00:42 |
Chanku |
*lib |
| 00:44 |
Chanku |
Apparently alot of my packages are using higher versions... |
| 00:46 |
Karlton |
I guess force them to reinstall again |
| 00:49 |
Chanku |
-_- |
| 00:49 |
Chanku |
Now it's giving me issues with trying to reinstall a dependency |
| 00:51 |
Karlton |
you most of used a source that gave you higher packages versions than the ones debian provided |
| 00:51 |
Chanku |
Yeah |
| 00:51 |
Chanku |
although now I'm not sure what to do... |
| 00:51 |
Chanku |
Because it's suggesting that I run apt-get -f install |
| 00:52 |
Karlton |
that will override whatever files that are already installed |
| 00:53 |
Chanku |
yeah |
| 00:53 |
Chanku |
however it will remove most of the files I have installed |
| 00:53 |
Chanku |
and it seems one is my desktop |
| 00:55 |
Karlton |
it should reinstall it |
| 00:55 |
Chanku |
hm? |
| 00:56 |
Karlton |
yeah, idk I haven't used that package manager in years |
| 00:56 |
Chanku |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10588518/ |
| 00:56 |
Chanku |
That's the output that I get from the command |
| 00:58 |
Karlton |
which command did you use? |
| 00:58 |
Chanku |
sudo apt-get -f install |
| 01:02 |
Karlton |
did you do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade recently? |
| 01:02 |
Chanku |
yes |
| 01:03 |
Karlton |
which package did you use that command on? |
| 01:03 |
Chanku |
I just did sudo apt-get upgrade iteslf... |
| 01:04 |
Karlton |
no I mean, apt-get -f install |
| 01:04 |
Karlton |
it shouldn't have to remove all those things |
| 01:04 |
Chanku |
I just did sudo apt-get -f install |
| 01:05 |
Karlton |
lincurl2-gnutls |
| 01:05 |
Chanku |
*libcurl2-gnutls |
| 01:05 |
Karlton |
you so try sudo apt-get -f install libcurl2-gnutls |
| 01:06 |
Karlton |
yeah* |
| 01:06 |
Karlton |
or try to force it to reinstall somehow |
| 01:08 |
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| 01:08 |
Chanku |
I'm getting help from #debian |
| 01:08 |
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| 01:29 |
paramat |
luiz you have to learn lua mapgen for yourself, no one has time to teach it in depth |
| 01:29 |
paramat |
heh i'm too lazy to comment each line |
| 01:30 |
luizrpgluiz |
hehehe |
| 01:30 |
paramat |
but sime of my mapgens are simple and designed to be tutorials |
| 01:30 |
paramat |
*some |
| 01:31 |
paramat |
i post links to them in this thread https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6396 |
| 01:31 |
paramat |
in that thread is hmmmmm's own simple example |
| 01:34 |
luizrpgluiz |
:) |
| 01:35 |
paramat |
this is my own simple example https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8628 |
| 01:37 |
paramat |
although it's not all that simple and has no comments, sorry |
| 01:38 |
luizrpgluiz |
ok |
| 01:40 |
Pilcrow |
is there an alternative to minetest.setting_set that works on a -temporary- basis and does not actually write to minetest.conf? i.e. changing player movement speed in, say, minetest_game, without affecting movement speed in minimal. |
| 01:41 |
Pilcrow |
I'm looking for something on a per-game basis, not per-world. |
| 01:41 |
est31 |
settings are temporary |
| 01:41 |
est31 |
but then they can't be changed anymore |
| 01:42 |
est31 |
so I agree you need something else |
| 01:42 |
paramat |
i want an alternative too for controlling clouds |
| 01:42 |
paramat |
in singleplayer controlling clouds is very buggy |
| 01:43 |
est31 |
why? |
| 01:43 |
paramat |
i mean 'on joinplayer' 'on leaveplayer' stuff |
| 01:43 |
Pilcrow |
used to be, you could include a partial minetest.conf in the root of your game folder to change specific settings only for that game. doesn't seem to be loaded any more... |
| 01:44 |
paramat |
i need to turn clouds off in a mod |
| 01:46 |
est31 |
Pilcrow, its still there: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L65 |
| 01:46 |
est31 |
so either it got removed without the doc updated |
| 01:46 |
est31 |
or its a bug |
| 01:46 |
est31 |
or your user's minetest.conf overrides the setting |
| 01:48 |
paramat |
yes that game .conf still works AFAIK |
| 01:48 |
paramat |
MTGame uses it |
| 01:49 |
est31 |
hm, perhaps do the same for mods, too? |
| 01:49 |
est31 |
I won't do anything before mod security got merged though |
| 01:50 |
est31 |
because it touches that code, and I dont want to cause ShadowNinja rebase work. |
| 01:50 |
est31 |
neither do I |
| 01:50 |
Pilcrow |
must be some bug then. I have movement_speed_fast = 7 and movement_acceleration_fast = 5 in there, as well as adding fast to default_privs. it doesn't load. used to in my old 0.4.8, so it's not a wrongly-formatted file or anything... |
| 01:51 |
est31 |
Pilcrow, and you sure, the other minetest.conf doesn't override those settings? |
| 01:52 |
Pilcrow |
yep, I just poked into it, and those settings aren't listed in the other minetest.conf at all. |
| 01:54 |
est31 |
Pilcrow, its working for me |
| 01:54 |
est31 |
Pilcrow, what is your minetest version? |
| 01:55 |
Pilcrow |
latest git |
| 01:55 |
est31 |
ok then I'll update and try it again... |
| 01:55 |
Pilcrow |
compiled like 4 hours ago |
| 01:57 |
Pilcrow |
I had assumed it was just something that had been changed long ago, because I haven't updated since 0.4.8, so I'd been trying to program a mod to do it instead, lol |
| 01:57 |
est31 |
if its a regression, its a recent one |
| 01:57 |
est31 |
< 1 month |
| 01:58 |
est31 |
oh |
| 01:58 |
est31 |
you are right |
| 01:59 |
Pilcrow |
I am, eh? well. that's annoying. I was hoping I was just doing something wrong... |
| 01:59 |
est31 |
I'll bisect |
| 01:59 |
est31 |
its a regression and has to be fixed |
| 01:59 |
Pilcrow |
thanks for your help, est31 |
| 01:59 |
est31 |
lets hope its one > 0.4.12 |
| 02:01 |
est31 |
Pilcrow, fixing bugs is fun :D |
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| 02:02 |
Pilcrow |
est31: heh, sometimes it is. other times you just wanna ragequit, lol. I'd probably help if I knew C/C++, but I still haven't bothered to learn it. |
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| 02:13 |
Chanku |
And looks like I'll need to reinstall debian |
| 02:13 |
Chanku |
-_- |
| 02:14 |
est31 |
Pilcrow, looks like f6e4c5d9cf459e8278 introduced the regression |
| 02:15 |
Pilcrow |
est31: I think it does load partially, but the values aren't interpreted correctly; I added movement_speed_fast = 7 and movement_acceleration_fast = 5 to my main minetest.conf and it changed nothing in-game... then I deleted minetest.conf from my game folder and, lo and behold, I had the slower fastmove speeds. so it seems those values are being loaded from the internal defaults if listed in the game folder... |
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| 02:28 |
est31 |
Pilcrow, ha found the cause |
| 02:29 |
est31 |
I'll do a fix |
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| 02:52 |
Pilcrow |
awesome, est31. |
| 02:54 |
Pilcrow |
would I understand it if I asked what was the cause? :P |
| 02:55 |
est31 |
Its a bit weird what happened |
| 02:55 |
est31 |
I know how to fix and so on |
| 02:55 |
est31 |
but in theory there was no reason to change that particular thing. |
| 02:57 |
Pilcrow |
well, I'm glad you found it anyway. squishing bugs is good to do... :D |
| 02:59 |
est31 |
given enough eyes, all bugs are shallow |
| 02:59 |
est31 |
today was yet another proof |
| 02:59 |
est31 |
its 5 days old |
| 03:04 |
Pilcrow |
interesting. I'm surprised no one caught it before us. do that few of people actually use the feature? :P |
| 03:04 |
est31 |
5 days |
| 03:04 |
est31 |
thats not a long timespan |
| 03:04 |
est31 |
minetest doesn't have a million users :) |
| 03:04 |
Pilcrow |
oh I read that wrong, haha |
| 03:05 |
est31 |
not yet :P |
| 03:07 |
Pilcrow |
heh. my friends and I tried minecraft once. we ran back to minetest. I really wish minetest had as good of mob support as minecraft though. I mean there are some decent mods, but still... |
| 03:10 |
est31 |
Pilcrow, you can track it here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/2482 |
| 03:11 |
Pilcrow |
thanks, est31. I'll try compiling that now. |
| 03:15 |
Pilcrow |
this is like the 6th time compiling today. I'm beginning to see why I stuck with my old version for so long... :P |
| 03:15 |
est31 |
lol |
| 03:15 |
est31 |
Pilcrow, you can check out 0.4.12 and be happy |
| 03:16 |
est31 |
master is a bumpy ride but more fun & you help fixing bugs |
| 03:16 |
est31 |
if you weren't, this might have stayed in until the next release |
| 03:17 |
Pilcrow |
heh, I've been meaning to upgrade anyway. I've been on 0.4.8 for a very long time, so I haven't even gotten to experience third-person view, the colored sunset/sunrise, or scrollbars in formspecs yet... :D |
| 03:19 |
Pilcrow |
takes a while to compile on a 2-gig dual-core though |
| 03:22 |
Pilcrow |
hm. I was always curious, why does the minetest source make a minetestserver executable if you can just use the minetest executable with --server to do the same thing? |
| 03:23 |
est31 |
you can compile minetestserver without X dependencies |
| 03:24 |
Pilcrow |
ah. that makes sense. I guess I didn't think about x-less servers |
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Pilcrow |
sweet, it's done compiling. time to test it out! :) |
| 03:28 |
est31 |
It wont get into master in that state |
| 03:29 |
est31 |
I do further fixing |
| 03:30 |
Pilcrow |
well at least it works well for playing. I just ran it and it seems to work perfectly :) |
| 03:31 |
est31 |
its ok for that |
| 03:32 |
Pilcrow |
but apparently it's not a complete fix, as ShadowNinja's comment seems to indicate? |
| 03:33 |
est31 |
thats why I have to do further fixing |
| 03:33 |
est31 |
it is a complete fix for your issue |
| 03:33 |
est31 |
but not the issue the commit that I partially reverted |
| 03:34 |
Pilcrow |
I see. well it's good enough for me, so I'm happy. I will probably re-compile it once the full fix is in master though... :) |
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whtemple1959 |
hello room, as I expand my growing base of knowledge I have come across discussions of minetest.conf. I see a minetest.conf in my home folder as well as in some but not all of the games. do the two serve different purposes? |
| 04:06 |
est31 |
lol |
| 04:06 |
est31 |
you are the second one today asking about it |
| 04:07 |
est31 |
read this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L65 |
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| 04:23 |
Pilcrow |
lol. so much interest in minetest.conf today... ;) |
| 04:24 |
est31 |
everybody wants to customize their minetest in order for the world pi day 2015-3-14 |
| 04:26 |
Pilcrow |
I almost forgot about pi day! I need to go buy a pie... :P |
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Pilcrow |
ha, I just noticed someone in here is signed in with the nickname eeew. I love your name, eeew! |
| 04:55 |
Pilcrow |
it's late for me. goodnight, folks. est31, I will keep watching that commit to see when it's good enough to be merged into master. then I'll probably compile again. |
| 04:56 |
est31 |
gn8 |
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* Zeno` |
smashes his keyboard |
| 04:58 |
Zeno` |
:) Ok, I feel better now |
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est31 |
Ha! minetest isn't in the list: http://www.net-security.org/malware_news.php?id=2989 |
| 05:13 |
est31 |
Minecraft is :P |
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JadedCtrl |
Could someone please test my server? 192.168.1.9 Port 30000 |
| 05:47 |
* VanessaE |
smacks JadedCtrl with a LAN IP address |
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VanessaE |
no one except you and whoever else is connected to your home network (on your side of the modem/router) will be able to test it, because that is a local IP. |
| 05:54 |
JadedCtrl |
Ah. |
| 05:54 |
JadedCtrl |
Sorry, I'm an imbecile. |
| 05:54 |
VanessaE |
no worries. |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE |
you need to give out your real IP (look at your modem/router's settings to determine this) and make sure you are port-forwarding 30000 on UDP |
| 05:59 |
VanessaE |
probably your real IP is 71.170.233.232 (that's what my IRC client shows you connecting from) |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
but you still need to set up the port-forward part. |
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| 06:01 |
JadedCtrl |
Yea, I port-forwarded the default (30000) earlier. I just used the wrong IP, it seems. I think it's working now. Thank you, Vanessa. |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
yep, it works./ |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
receiving media.... |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
done. waiting for the world to show up. |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
hm. client crash. |
| 06:03 |
JadedCtrl |
I'm running the server on the latest dev build of Minetest, perhaps that's it? |
| 06:03 |
JadedCtrl |
04.12-dev |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
hard to say, seems my client crashes pretty reliably on connecting |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
keep your server up, I'm gonna pull to git HEAD and get a backtrace of this. |
| 06:04 |
JadedCtrl |
OK. |
| 06:06 |
est31 |
VanessaE can you bisect too? |
| 06:06 |
est31 |
when youre on it :D |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
standby. |
| 06:07 |
VanessaE |
for sure, commit e74b8da is bad. |
| 06:07 |
est31 |
if this reproduces for you too. |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
checking with HEAD now (7c19933a) |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10589333/ |
| 06:10 |
VanessaE |
I don't have time to bisect it. |
| 06:13 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2484 |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
ok, and VE-C still works |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
so my client ain't broken in that regard anyway |
| 06:15 |
VanessaE |
JadedCtrl: what commit are you at? |
| 06:15 |
est31 |
JadedCtrl, how have you obtained minetest? |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
on your server |
| 06:16 |
est31 |
where is VE-C at? |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
digitalaudioconcepts.com 30000 |
| 06:16 |
est31 |
(that would be good) |
| 06:16 |
est31 |
no commit |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
um |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
adfcdc548 |
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Zeno` |
hmm |
| 06:24 |
est31 |
does minetest hang for everybody at the "Initializing nodes..." step for ~10 secs? |
| 06:25 |
est31 |
at joining? |
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VanessaE |
est31: for me, often so yeah |
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est31 |
I guess thats something that easily can be threaded |
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est31 |
its a for loop |
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srifqi |
est31: afternoon |
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hi |
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srifqi |
so, how're you? |
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good |
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est31 |
& u |
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srifqi |
nice! |
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srifqi |
i'm fine |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Use the new Player::isDead function when it's the case 4e63c97 http://git.io/pSsm (2015-03-13T08:57:58+01:00) |
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yang2003 |
How can i get longer inventory |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Friday the 13th, and happy Digital Learning Day! :-D |
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Calinou |
maybe GitHub will buy GitLab |
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Calinou |
https://github.com/mackyle/sqlite/blob/3cf493d4018042c70a4db733dd38f96896cd825f/src/os.h#L52 |
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srifqi |
what happened if a laptop was sound "beep" more than 5 seconds before boot? |
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Calinou |
it depends |
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JamesTait |
BIOS beep codes vary massively between machines. |
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JamesTait |
IIRC, the last time I heard that it was no/badly-seated RAM. |
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Zeno` |
look up the POST codes/beeps for your model of laptop |
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sfan5 |
<Calinou> maybe GitHub will buy GitLab |
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sfan5 |
that would be the death for GitLab CE |
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Calinou |
was sarcasm, since it's friday the 13th |
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Calinou |
GitLab is already dead to me |
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nrzkt |
they have a good product but github is over all, because community was here. |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Rename some packet and handlers to <packet>_Legacy name for compat layer between new network changes and old network clients 126f36c http://git.io/p9Zd (2015-03-13T13:40:48+01:00) |
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nrzkt |
but if gitlab add distributed community and permit to have server to server sharing like owncloud or XMPP based solutions (diaspora/movim) it could be good |
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Calinou |
distributed projects never succeed :( |
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srifqi |
Calinou: JamesTait: then, is it dangerous? |
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nrzkt |
owncloud succeed, but for git i'm not sure, it's not same scope |
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Calinou |
ownCloud is not distributed |
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srifqi |
Calinou: JamesTait: ^^^ |
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JamesTait |
srifqi, as Calinou said, it depends. You'll need to do as Zeno` suggested and look up the POST codes for your laptop. |
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Calinou |
I don't know |
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nrzkt |
owncloud has a server to server sharing. it's distributed |
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nrzkt |
since owncloud 8 you if your oc admin enable it you can share a file with another owncloud instance |
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Calinou |
there's still the Google Drive, Dropbox and MEGA ogres :P |
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nrzkt |
yes, but in france and germany owncloud works very very well, i have seen and installed instance for some enterprises which are massively using it for ~1000 users and share enterprise documents between labs :) and this is increasing |
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srifqi |
Calinou: JamesTait: Zeno`: thanks |
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nrzkt |
french and germany education & research are moving to use this project, researchers love it because they can share with other researchers over the worlds when they are partners and keep the research data in a secure DC |
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nrzkt |
and not owned by americans |
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Trixar_za |
Hey how many blocks away must a water source be from the worked ground before it won't grow seeds? |
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sfan5 |
3 or 4 probably |
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Dartmouth |
think it was 5 |
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Calinou |
Trixar_za, 3 in all directions, including vertically |
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Trixar_za |
So I don't really need a water source under every block then? |
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Calinou |
thus, you can hide your water underground |
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Calinou |
no you don't, at all |
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Calinou |
you can irrigate 49 nodes using 1 water node only (source or flowing) |
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Trixar_za |
Kind of did. Been building greenhouses (using green light sources) underground. |
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Trixar_za |
I notice that with the lamps I'm using it needs to be two blocks away from the ground or it won't give proper lighting |
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Trixar_za |
I need better light source >.> |
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* Trixar_za |
does the math |
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Trixar_za |
So 25 blocks surrounded by water? |
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Trixar_za |
That's pretty nice |
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Trixar_za |
I'm bored... so let me try something. With Lava. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Handle the newly added TOCLIENT_ACCESS_DENIED and TOCLIENT_DELETE_PARTICLESPAWNER 9f3fc72 http://git.io/p9rg (2015-03-13T14:28:20+01:00) |
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kaeza_ |
Greetings |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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iqualfragile |
hi rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
How's it going? |
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iqualfragile |
good |
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iqualfragile |
was busy |
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iqualfragile |
but now im done |
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rubenwardy |
Yeah. I can understand that, people get busy.# |
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rubenwardy |
You are just a volunteer, anyway :) |
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Zytum |
hi |
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Zytum |
Krock, are your worldon line? I'm having troubles to connect |
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Zytum |
are my connection running? |
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Krock |
hi |
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Krock |
Zytum, please wait. Backups are running |
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minetest seems to build/work fine with irrlicht-svn (1.9.0), but is there a reason to use the 'stable' 1.8.1 instead? |
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Krock |
in-dev 1.9.0 doesn't work on windows. |
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luizrpgluiz |
Krock:hi |
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Zytum |
f****g connection |
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Krock |
Zytum, backup of map.sqlite at 81%.. please wait |
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Zytum |
ok, thanks for advice |
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Pilcrow |
ah, so it really makes no difference for a linux machine then? |
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Zytum |
no, worlds and game are the same |
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Krock |
Zytum, it's up. |
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Zytum |
Ok, I go there |
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Pilcrow |
it seems I can't build -old- clients with irrlicht 1.9.0 though; I tried 0.4.8 (by accident, lol) and it spat out some error. 0.4.12-dev compiles fine though. :P |
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Pilcrow |
^that might not be an irrlicht problem though; I didn't delve into it much, since it was a mistake anyway. |
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rubenwardy |
Pilcrow, 1.9.0 has small changes that slightly break backwards compatability. |
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Pilcrow |
thanks rubenwardy but I figured that out already; on a whim I decided to install 1.8.1 anyway, just to -see- if the old clients would compile. still probably gonna use 0.4.12 since I like some of its features, but some of my old mods don't work quite right with it yet. nice to know I can build a client that works with everything, if I can't manage to squash all the bugs... :P |
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Pilcrow |
some mod I have is making the drowning bubbles invisible in 0.4.12. I still drown, but there's no display to indicate how much air I have left. how annoying. |
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Pilcrow |
^ not like I really need help with it though; just idly complaining, lol |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Prepare Protocol v25 init & authentication. 74d34da http://git.io/p72M (2015-03-13T20:23:03+01:00) |
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devmarth |
is the section under cross compiling minetest "Full Windows Build" run in Linux or Windows? |
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Krock |
huh |
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it wouldn't be cross compilation, if you compiled on windows, no? |
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Pilcrow |
devmarth, where exactly is that section? I've been trying to figure out how to cross-compile myself... |
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Pilcrow |
^ haha, I missed a comma there; sounds like I'm trying to compile -me- :P |
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Pilcrow |
ah, never mind. I found it. |
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Nitori |
you found the comma? |
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Pilcrow |
lol |
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Pilcrow |
no I found how to compile myself. takes all kinds of voodoo and such though... ;P |
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harrison |
"at night the cafe changed character completely. it was taken over by a colorful flock of transsexual prostitutes, one of whose "melons" were so round that s/he was called "Honeydude" "' |
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devmarth |
wtf |
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Calinou |
this is harrison |
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Calinou |
your daily dose of weird stuff |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Replace NetworkPacket pointers to references 083c8c7 http://git.io/p54w (2015-03-13T22:01:49+01:00) |
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[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: client.cpp: typo fix and break; fix to make some compilers happy 0e93eef http://git.io/p5Eu (2015-03-13T22:08:48+01:00) |
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Calinou |
Calinou> http://www.irrgheist.com/hcraftsource.htm |
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Calinou |
<Calinou> I found a (partially) free game |
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Calinou |
<Calinou> going to try it |
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*airhorns* PilzAdam, 3999, Germany, Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:19 pm |
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MinetestForFun |
Hi, someone can tell me if i can add commented lignes in my world.mt, and if it's possible, the string for commented lines ? thank you ! |
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MinetestForFun |
lines* |
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