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[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Thicker snow nodebox cbea61e http://git.io/vYQtz (2015-07-29T01:18:30+01:00) |
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luizrpgluiz |
hi |
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xfceKris |
so I heard minetest got updated to 0.4.12. Is this correct? |
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est31 |
yes, in february |
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xfceKris |
wow, I'm behind then.lol. |
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xfceKris |
on the news, not the update. |
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xfceKris |
I just updated a few minutes ago. |
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xfceKris |
Aaaaannnnywaaaayyyy....Has anyone played the moontest subgame?> |
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yaman |
would it be possible to run a somewhat fast server on a raspberry pi (private server for about 5 players at most) |
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yaman |
? |
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wilkgr |
I dunno |
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est31 |
I think yes |
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wilkgr |
!map hogwarts |
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xfceKris |
I would think it should be okay, with minimal lag. |
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wilkgr |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3250 |
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wilkgr |
They could only get 2 on at the same time. |
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wilkgr |
And that's without X |
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wilkgr |
Sorry, wrong link |
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wilkgr |
Here's the right one http://moontest.org/viewtopic.php?t=11291&p=171121 |
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yaman |
another question: Can you host a minetest server without being a player in the game? |
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wilkgr |
I think so. |
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wilkgr |
minetest --server |
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wilkgr |
But it's real, the raspberry pi is a limited server for playing and the lags are frequent . |
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wilkgr |
quote |
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yaman |
ok thanks |
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wilkgr |
Bye! |
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swift110-phone |
Hey all |
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xfceKris |
So how does one protect say...a house that I've built on a server? |
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xfceKris |
To prevent trolls and such from ransacking it. |
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est31 |
there are multiple mods which have such a feature |
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xfceKris |
How about on Dan's Carbone server? |
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xfceKris |
Know anything about it? |
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est31 |
dunno |
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est31 |
what does /area_pos_1 say |
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xfceKris |
Invalid command. |
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est31 |
well then you dont have the areas mod |
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VanessaE |
it's /area_pos1 |
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est31 |
usually there is a sign at spawn explaining things |
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VanessaE |
(no second _ ) |
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est31 |
shadowninja and his _ never predictable |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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xfceKris |
No signs at all on Dan's Carbone server. |
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xfceKris |
Looks like someone spammed the spawn area like crazy recently |
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xfceKris |
/area_pos1 returns invalid command as well |
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xfceKris |
Anyone know who jzgaming is? |
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xfceKris |
On Dan's Carbone Server. |
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mazal |
Hi everyone , is there a command to copy one players privs to another player. IE give another player the same privs as another one ? |
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est31 |
no |
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mazal |
Ok kewl , will do them one by one |
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hmmmm |
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/07/new_rc4_attack_1.html |
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cornernote |
anyone know how i can make the inventory formspec popup? |
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cornernote |
eg, minetest.show_formspec(player:get_player_name(), "what_goes_here?", player:get_inventory_formspec()) |
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cornernote |
it shows a formspec that looks like the inventory, but if i change the players inventory formspec this one is not updated |
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cornernote |
need like minetest.show_inventory_formspec(player_name) |
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DusXMT |
I might make a complete fool out of myself, I haven't had a look at the API, but someone was asking this already, and iirc, the "what_goes_here?" is returned by player:get_inventory_formspec(), so perhaps minetest.show_formspec(player:get_player_name(), player:get_inventory_formspec()) ? |
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cornernote |
formspec is the third argument - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.show_formspec |
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cornernote |
seems formname is empty in the inventory, but i cant get a minetest.show_formspec to show the actual inventory |
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cornernote |
i can get it to show something that looks similar, but it doesnt get updated when i update the players formspec |
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asie |
hello |
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asie |
eh, i still seem to have tsundere feelings about minetest |
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jin_xi |
cornernote: just tried with "default:inventory" and it works |
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jin_xi |
minetest.show_formspec(user:get_player_name(), "default:inventory", user:get_inventory_formspec()) |
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Krock |
but the inventory isn't default |
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asie |
i wish i could help minetest... it's just that i hate C++ with a burning passion |
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jin_xi |
Krock: tbh it does not really seem to matter much whats there |
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Krock |
asie, you also can help with extending readme and dcs |
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Krock |
*docs |
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asie |
no, what i mean is... the engine's a mess IMHO |
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asie |
though i've last been here around May '14 |
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asie |
wonder if much has changed |
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jin_xi |
just "" works in singleplayer |
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mm123 |
i was wondering if there was a my little pony mod |
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mm123 |
i was wondering if there was a my little pony mod |
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asie |
We can hear you. |
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asie |
Probably not. |
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mm123 |
ok |
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est31 |
mm123, Calinou , one of our experienced modders is a mlp fan |
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est31 |
perhaps ask them kindly :) |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Rain Day! 😃 |
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est31 |
no rain here |
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JamesTait |
Nor here yet, but give it a few minutes. 😉 |
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mazal |
Just freezing without rain |
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* Krock |
indexes all WIP mod GitHub links :) |
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bluegreen |
Hi everyone |
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Krock |
moin |
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bluegreen |
hi krock |
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bluegreen |
minetest is compiling :) |
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bluegreen |
no errors yet |
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Krock |
the errors always come when you're linking the stuff :P |
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bluegreen |
well there were no cmake error this time at least |
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MinetestBot |
[git] nerzhul -> minetest/minetest: Precalculate mapblock relative size. This permit to remove many s16 calculs on runtime ca63f7f http://git.io/vY5uh (2015-07-29T11:45:44+02:00) |
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bluegreen |
well this error occurred http://pastebin.com/SFGJLS1q |
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kilbith |
est31: FYI, in french we respect the original german naming of the Pfannkuchen : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boule_de_Berlin |
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kilbith |
just translated to "Ball of Berlin" |
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kilbith |
wait, Pfannkuchen means pancake |
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est31 |
wow the just test server is really undermoderated |
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est31 |
lots of locked chests at spawn lol |
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est31 |
and other griefing |
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Jordach_ |
!tell est31 nice job of fixing android for unicode text |
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MinetestBot |
Jordach_: yeah, yeah |
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bluegreen |
there are no moderates on just test |
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bluegreen |
people join with hacked clients and can grief everyone and not get banned or kicked |
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Jordach |
hacked -> modified |
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bluegreen |
yes |
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Jordach |
hacked implies an engine fix |
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bluegreen |
oh |
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bluegreen |
#2969 |
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Jordach |
never converge terms around here, the Linux neckbeards will tear you apart |
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bluegreen |
lol |
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bluegreen |
should i say cracked clients? |
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Jordach |
better-ish |
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Jordach |
i might eventually write a mod using the Lua library for networking that implements authentication |
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bluegreen |
what will that give? |
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Jordach |
ability for moderators on servers to have a "master" server that provides non-impersonation on other servers |
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Jordach |
there are several if not many people impersonating CWz, deezl, OldCoder etc |
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bluegreen |
like in minecraft? |
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Jordach |
similar, yes |
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bluegreen |
what if the master server crashes? |
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bluegreen |
goes offline |
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bluegreen |
It sounds like a server that will get a lot of traffic |
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Krock |
master server gets many HTTP requests |
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Krock |
it's not a game server like the others |
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bluegreen |
still |
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bluegreen |
one everytime someone logs on |
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Jordach |
and it's only needed server side |
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Jordach |
clients can join with their usual password, and the authenticator password for server level privs |
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bluegreen |
ok |
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bluegreen |
thats a good idea |
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bluegreen |
#2969 |
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bluegreen |
I disabled the mod manger by default as it is broken |
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Jordach |
i always dropped my mods into subgames |
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bluegreen |
what part of minetest manages liquids? |
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Calinou |
the core (C++) |
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bluegreen |
what file? |
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bluegreen |
in the souce code? |
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bluegreen |
is there a fix for liquid spreading over ignore? |
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VanessaE |
nope. |
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VanessaE |
I've advocated in the past that liquids should just "stop" when they hit ignore. |
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VanessaE |
(no descent, no spreading, just a dead stop) |
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bluegreen |
same |
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bluegreen |
why no descent? |
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bluegreen |
other then gliches |
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Jordach |
https://gist.github.com/Jordach/eec931eb3f4909049bb0 |
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Jordach |
not sure if this small lua mod fixes it |
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bluegreen |
I was planning to fix iy in the engine |
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bluegreen |
but |
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bluegreen |
that might work for now |
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Jordach |
untested, but should work |
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bluegreen |
you should pr it if it works |
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Jordach |
abms take lots of CPU time |
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Jordach |
it's inefficient, that's the problem |
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bluegreen |
ah |
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Jordach |
even set_node is inefficient, see old versions of WorldEdit before VManip |
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bluegreen |
so the engine still needs a fix |
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Jordach |
yes, it's possible to patch it with a mod |
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Jordach |
but as a temp measure |
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bluegreen |
btw what file in the source code manages liquids? |
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Jordach |
no idea |
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bluegreen |
I guess i will just serach the code for "liquid" |
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bluegreen |
1x coding 3x debugging 10x wait for pr to be merged |
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Jordach |
69x proller spamming fm is better |
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Jordach |
:^) |
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bluegreen |
:) |
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bluegreen |
how do you place a node in singlenode? |
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Jordach |
singlenode just generates air |
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proller |
liquid in fm is much better! |
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Jordach |
it's for custom lua mapgens |
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Jordach |
lmao |
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Jordach |
called it |
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bluegreen |
lol |
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proller |
and setnodes faster ;) |
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Jordach |
it doesn't even work when compiled from source |
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proller |
fm ? |
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bluegreen |
singlenode should generate a single node |
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Jordach |
bluegreen, singlenode as in the entire map is made from single nodes |
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bluegreen |
ahh |
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bluegreen |
i was planing to test the code in singlenode |
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bluegreen |
as in a sngle node in the middle of nowhere |
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bluegreen |
any mapgen that does that? |
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Jordach |
make one yourself :) |
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Jordach |
minetest.set_noe({0, 0, 0}, {name="default:stone"}) |
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Jordach |
^ that'll make one node at 0,0,0 |
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Jordach |
minetest.set_node({0, 0, 0}, {name="default:stone"}) |
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Jordach |
better, drop that in an init.lua with the singlenode mapgen |
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bluegreen |
while true do minetest.set_node({0, 0, 0}, {name="default:stone"}) end |
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Jordach |
server locks up when doing that |
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Jordach |
don't |
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Jordach |
you need a break somewhere |
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bluegreen |
ye it crashed |
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bluegreen |
anyway |
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bluegreen |
I checked the code in skyblock |
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bluegreen |
it works but is still cause some bugs |
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Jordach |
no really, the MT server is a single thread |
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Jordach |
one infinite loop and it's ded |
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bluegreen |
why isn't there a different trend for lua? |
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Calinou |
it was considered to make each mod to run in its own thread, but was eventually rejected |
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bluegreen |
why not just have a lua trend? |
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bluegreen |
est31 there is no point in adding a setting to default settings for #2969 |
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est31 |
bluegreen, agreed, but its still done |
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est31 |
it gives a nice point of reference |
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bluegreen |
ok then |
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bluegreen |
I will add a misc section |
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bluegreen |
as this doesn't really go under client |
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est31 |
its a mainmenu setting |
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est31 |
so client |
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bluegreen |
ok then |
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bluegreen |
done |
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bluegreen |
syncing |
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alket |
yesterday i played just fine, today i get this error https://paste.kde.org/p8m9p4qpw |
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est31 |
alket, #2663 |
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bluegreen |
maybe depends.txt got mesed up? |
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est31 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2663 |
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alket |
but yesterday i restarted like 20 times |
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alket |
and worked fine |
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bluegreen |
ok nvm then |
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ThatGraemeGuy |
alket: http://wiki.minetest.net/Troubleshooting: "This means that env_meta.txt in your world folder got corrupted. Since it doesn't contain any important information you can simply delete the file and let minetest re-create it." |
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alket |
thanks ThatGraemeGuy , it works |
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swift110-phone |
Hey |
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bluegreen |
hi swift110-phone |
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swift110-phone |
How r u bluegreen |
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bluegreen |
good |
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swift110-phone |
Good to hear bluegreen |
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swift110-phone |
What are you doing |
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bluegreen |
trying to fix water bugs in minetest |
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bluegreen |
and waiting for my pr to be merged or closed |
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bluegreen |
what are you doing? |
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swift110-phone |
Relaxing |
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swift110-phone |
Ill be installing minetest in my laptop later |
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bluegreen |
you don't really install minetest |
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bluegreen |
you just download it |
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swift110-phone |
I know |
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Krock |
bluegreen, you don't really install CD games. You just copy files into a from you choosen directory and create some registry key. |
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Calinou |
minetest - [PLEASE ENTER CD KEY]: |
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bluegreen |
lol |
| 13:59 |
Krock |
xD |
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Krock |
Installing Minetest. Press any key to continue. |
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bluegreen |
error unknown key |
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Calinou |
where's the "any" key? |
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Krock |
Calinou, is there one on your keyboard? I can't find mine |
| 14:00 |
Calinou |
nope, I only see Scroll Lock, Pause, Print Screen |
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Calinou |
:( |
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Krock |
here it's Print Scrn, Srcoll Lock and Pause |
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Krock |
*Scroll |
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Krock |
Calinou, whenever I'm lost in a forest, I take my keyboard and press the home button :P |
| 14:02 |
Calinou |
<Krock> here it's Print Scrn, Srcoll Lock and Pause |
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Calinou |
yeah, same order |
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Krock |
oh wow |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Android: fix horrible libiconv build eb3aac2 http://git.io/vYFml (2015-07-29T15:59:06+02:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Android: Fix minor makefile bugs f97c270 http://git.io/vYFm8 (2015-07-29T15:53:23+02:00) |
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yaman |
VanessaE , how do I add support for pipeworks to a different mod? |
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est31 |
yaman, you want to put stuff into your custom chests? |
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est31 |
or whats the goal |
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yaman |
extract items from a chest-like node using pipeworks mod |
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* VanessaE |
pokes nore |
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VanessaE |
:) |
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yaman |
specifically, this, which my friend and I would like to update: https://github.com/minermoder27/equivalent_exchange/ |
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bluegreen |
I think you have to add support in pipeworks for the the equivalent_exchange |
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yaman |
ok |
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VanessaE |
no |
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VanessaE |
you don't have to do that |
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VanessaE |
check the compat.lua file in pipeworks |
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VanessaE |
there you can see it redefining chests and furnaces |
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VanessaE |
that should give you some idea how to modify your chest-like node |
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bluegreen |
oh |
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bluegreen |
strange |
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bobomb |
mod question: how do you detect if a node is in a certain group? |
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VanessaE |
get the node def from minetest.registered_items{} |
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VanessaE |
then check the value of nodedef.groups.["group name"] |
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VanessaE |
if it's nil, it's not in that group |
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VanessaE |
er lose that second period. |
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VanessaE |
e.g. nodedef.groups["snappy"] |
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bobomb |
perfect thanks. i'm pretty sure you told me that about 2 or 3 months ago... |
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VanessaE |
I might have :) |
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Krock |
how about minetest.get_item_group(node name, group name)? |
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VanessaE |
I don't remember |
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bobomb |
no that is actually the LEVEL |
| 15:09 |
bobomb |
or wait |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
Krock: that might work too, I tend to forget about that helper function |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
bobomb: if it's not nil, it's "in that group" |
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Krock |
VanessaE, yeah me too. But they make the code shorter :) |
| 15:09 |
bobomb |
ya |
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VanessaE |
at which point you also know what "level" it's at for that group |
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bobomb |
i see |
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bobomb |
i was looking at get_node_group |
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Krock |
check out doc\lua_api.txt, it's helpful |
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kahrl |
technically if the value for a group is 0, the item is not in the group, even though the value is not nil |
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VanessaE |
ew! heretic! he used a backslash for a delimiter! |
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kahrl |
so get_item_group(...) ~= 0 is more correct |
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VanessaE |
:) |
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Krock |
VanessaE, I know that linux users don't want to see this delimiter :P |
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VanessaE |
Krock: microsoft only uses a \ for a delim because they insisted on using / instead of - for a command line switch :P |
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Krock |
sometimes they use \\ and when you code it wrong you get \\\\ problems |
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Krock |
Windows is amazing. |
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ksjdragon |
Is there a way to display text in a formspec? |
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VanessaE |
use a label or a textbox |
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Krock |
or a textlist |
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bobomb |
i'm trying to test for "walkability" but is that a group that people set with their custom node registrations or is it some kind of default? |
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ksjdragon |
What are those? |
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VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1410 |
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bobomb |
ksjdragon |
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bobomb |
http://dev.minetest.net/formspec#label |
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Krock |
bobomb, do you means something like the viscosity of liquids? |
| 15:19 |
bobomb |
http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/formspecs.html |
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bobomb |
van, i'm trying to convert a mod written for core into lua and it tests for "walkable" which apparently in core is a common thing |
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VanessaE |
it's a node property, yeah |
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ksjdragon |
Ok thanks |
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VanessaE |
it's not a group |
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bobomb |
and i see in the dev wiki that walkable is a group that can be set, but i don't know if it IS often set |
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VanessaE |
so you want to check nodedef.walkable |
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bobomb |
so that's not a group... ok so i want to do your approach of directly accessing the nodedef table |
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bobomb |
nodedef["nodename"].walkable ? |
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VanessaE |
get he node def from registered_items as before, then check the value of nodedef.walkable |
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bobomb |
missed the registered items bit above. thanks. also it isn't referenced in dev wiki. |
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VanessaE |
I never use the dev wiki. always lua_api.txt |
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bobomb |
can't add comments to that. haha |
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bluegreen |
what mod is it ? |
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bluegreen |
just wondering |
| 15:38 |
bobomb |
me? |
| 15:38 |
bobomb |
gis |
| 15:38 |
bluegreen |
yes you |
| 15:38 |
bobomb |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=12928&sid=3404fae3b491b4961c528e367134e590 |
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Sokomine |
does anyone have a bit of experience regarding the hud? |
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bobomb |
paul newman? |
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bluegreen |
Isn't something similar done by minimap now? |
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bobomb |
sure, similar, but this is more about calculating GIS type surface derivatives like slope, aspect, curvature, etc |
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bluegreen |
ok |
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Sokomine |
what i want to do with the hud is: display the item in an inventory slot in a *node* (not the player's inventory) in full - complete with amount of items in the slot (to indicate progress) and/or damage state of the tool |
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bobomb |
eventually i might write these things as minimap view modes... |
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bluegreen |
that might be easier |
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bluegreen |
the drawing hundreds of images |
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bobomb |
i'm waiting to see what sort of minimap related features they expose to lua |
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bobomb |
yeah that is temporary, but it only takes half a sec... |
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Sokomine |
minimap? but isn't that integrated by now? the one you get when pressing F9 is pretty impressive |
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bobomb |
allowing dynamic images in formspec would be just as good. minimap is not really what i want to use |
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bluegreen |
I don't think it's planed to expose mimimap features to lua |
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bobomb |
yes i am using it in a dev build |
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bluegreen |
minimap is client sided |
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bluegreen |
lua is server sided |
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bobomb |
ya... but minimap is too small. and this stuff i am doing will not be seen as important to core so it must be a mod |
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bluegreen |
could you have an external executable generate the image? |
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bluegreen |
that could be faster |
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bobomb |
but then how to show it? |
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bluegreen |
oh |
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bobomb |
speed is not important. |
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bobomb |
yet |
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bobomb |
enterprise level GIS software is slower than this mod at calculating raster derivatives. haha |
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bluegreen |
i don't think images can be loader dynamically |
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bluegreen |
lol |
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bobomb |
no they cant |
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bobomb |
the map is not for navigation, it is for displaying calculated properties. eventually i want to use it for a sort of biome generator that accounts for terrain, proximity to water, etc |
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bobomb |
so eventually these derivatives will not even be displayed |
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bobomb |
i just need to see them so i know they are working |
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bobomb |
plus it's really not that slow! |
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Sokomine |
ah. i'm getting closer to beeing able to use the hud elements...the documentation on the dev wiki seems more helpful than the too-minimalistic one in the lua_api.txt in this case (to which i usually refer) |
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Halamix2 |
is there a way to register an account on forum when my IP is blacklisted? (dynamic IP) |
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bluegreen |
reset your ip |
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Halamix2 |
I'll try that, thanks |
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bluegreen |
discounting your router |
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bluegreen |
might help |
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bluegreen |
just leave it discounted for a few minutes |
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bluegreen |
then reconnect |
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bobomb |
dream on bluegreen |
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bluegreen |
? |
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bobomb |
doesn't work. ISP will give same IP |
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bluegreen |
It works with my ISP. |
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bobomb |
it hasn't worked in canada for like 10 years |
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bobomb |
you can explicitly request a new DHCP lease, maybe, depending on router, but they may still give same IP |
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bluegreen |
so after a reset how long does it take to connect? |
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bluegreen |
It takes like 3 minutes for me. |
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bobomb |
you can give your router a static IP in the correct subnet, that used to work on some ISPs |
| 16:20 |
bobomb |
one that isn't taken. DHCP won't give it out to anyone else once you are using it. |
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Halamix2_ |
anopther IP, still nothing, maype it's ISP-blocked? |
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bluegreen |
did you check it's a diffrent ip? |
| 16:28 |
bobomb |
entire subnet owned by isp blocked? |
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Halamix2 |
yes, before it was 109.196.59.75, and now it's 109.196.62.226 |
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Halamix2 |
maybe |
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bobomb |
what ISP are yo guys using by the way |
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bluegreen |
you are welcome to check |
| 16:28 |
bobomb |
that wouldn't work on shaw or telus in canada |
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Halamix2 |
as you can see on IRC @ip-109196062226.syrion.pl |
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bobomb |
ah |
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bluegreen |
vodafone ie |
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bobomb |
request unblacklist? |
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Halamix2 |
I requested it, now waiting (it should be done in 1-2 hours) |
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Halamix2 |
and I read that this IPs was blocked in 2013 for spamming |
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Halamix2 |
*these |
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Halamix2 |
YES! I've registered an account! |
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Krock |
congrats |
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* Krock |
gives Halamix2 a cookie |
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Halamix2 |
thanks :) |
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* Halamix2 |
om nom nom |
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est31 |
https://img.shields.io/github/downloads/minetest/minetest/latest/total.svg?style=flat-square |
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est31 |
freeminer's shield converted to github |
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est31 |
reveals: > 10x downloads |
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OldCoder |
Jordach, also C55 |
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OldCoder |
<fakec55> I made Minetest |
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OldCoder |
It is in some cases a gesture of respect. But also irritating. |
| 18:41 |
OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
I keep telling people, I don't play under this nick on other people worlds except by prior arrangement |
| 18:41 |
OldCoder |
Or special arrangement |
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OldCoder |
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bluegreen |
? |
| 18:42 |
OldCoder |
bluegreen, ? |
| 18:42 |
OldCoder |
I was responding to a remark by Jordach |
| 18:42 |
bluegreen |
nvm |
| 18:42 |
bluegreen |
ok |
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Jordach |
hm? |
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OldCoder |
hm back? |
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OldCoder |
It was your remark |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
you rang? was cleaning the dishes? |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
wat? |
| 18:42 |
OldCoder |
Responding to a remark of yours |
| 18:43 |
OldCoder |
<Jordach> ability for moderators on servers to have a "master" server that provides non-impersonation on other servers |
| 18:43 |
OldCoder |
<Jordach> there are several if not many people impersonating CWz, deezl, OldCoder etc |
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OldCoder |
<bluegreen> like in minecraft? |
| 18:43 |
OldCoder |
<Jordach> similar, yes |
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Jordach |
ah, ys |
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OldCoder |
Actually, bluegreen, you were in that discussion |
| 18:43 |
bluegreen |
yes |
| 18:43 |
bluegreen |
I was sometime ago |
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* OldCoder |
wonders if IRC authentication via a bot would work |
| 18:44 |
OldCoder |
IRC could be one of the master server options |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
IRC shouldn't be used for authentication |
| 18:44 |
bluegreen |
why? |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
we could just use the master server, ie. the server list |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
bluegreen, we don't control it... |
| 18:45 |
Jordach |
my suggestion is a authenticator, which requires a user to sign in to the server, as well as a https secured page |
| 18:45 |
bluegreen |
like you sign in |
| 18:46 |
bluegreen |
and are given a code |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
name authentication shouldn't require user intervention at each log in |
| 18:46 |
bluegreen |
so how do you know it's the user? |
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bluegreen |
not just somneone using the same name |
| 18:47 |
bluegreen |
do you compare the password hash? |
| 18:48 |
bluegreen |
if you do that how do you know if they didn't use a diffrent password |
| 18:48 |
bluegreen |
for a different server |
| 18:49 |
OldCoder |
You would ask a bot to check IPV4s |
| 18:49 |
est31 |
ah dudes |
| 18:49 |
OldCoder |
Of course then you would have the brother-sister issue |
| 18:49 |
est31 |
a centralized login server would be dead simple |
| 18:49 |
OldCoder |
Go for it, then |
| 18:49 |
est31 |
the client connects to a certain server |
| 18:49 |
est31 |
there it gets a token |
| 18:49 |
est31 |
it uses that token for the server |
| 18:49 |
est31 |
finished |
| 18:50 |
est31 |
that token can even base on an user secret |
| 18:50 |
est31 |
which can optionally be stored on the client |
| 18:51 |
est31 |
this would give us password manager capability |
| 18:51 |
est31 |
well perhaps one day |
| 18:51 |
est31 |
but if we design such a thing, it will be like the master list -- forkable, and reconfigurable |
| 18:51 |
est31 |
so no central authority |
| 18:52 |
est31 |
any group of servers can make their own auth server |
| 18:52 |
est31 |
like we already have for the masterlist |
| 18:52 |
bluegreen |
there is an other masterlist? |
| 18:52 |
bluegreen |
oh |
| 18:52 |
bluegreen |
you mean the freeminer one |
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est31 |
well anybody can start their own |
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Sokomine |
password manager capabilities would be helpful |
| 19:02 |
bluegreen |
a password manager shouldn't be hard to add |
| 19:02 |
est31 |
there is https://github.com/est31/minetest-pwm |
| 19:02 |
est31 |
the problem is it doesnt store stuff encrypted |
| 19:02 |
est31 |
and no user interface |
| 19:03 |
bluegreen |
minetest hashes password with username before senting them to server |
| 19:03 |
bluegreen |
could you just save the hash minetest sents? |
| 19:05 |
est31 |
yes, it would still be password equivalent |
| 19:05 |
bluegreen |
you could try and encrypt the hashes with a master password if you want |
| 19:06 |
est31 |
yea thats the goal |
| 19:06 |
est31 |
or the requirement |
| 19:06 |
bluegreen |
are you planning to do this in C++ |
| 19:06 |
bluegreen |
or lua |
| 19:06 |
bluegreen |
? |
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Krock |
lol, C++ for sure |
| 19:08 |
bluegreen |
well currently it is done in lua |
| 19:08 |
bluegreen |
so I'm asking |
| 19:09 |
est31 |
im not sure |
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bluegreen |
also what part of the source code manages liquids? |
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ksjdragon |
How would you do something every server tick? |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
ksjdragon, minetest.register_on_globalstep() |
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ksjdragon |
Thanks |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
np |
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ksjdragon |
Wait, am I able to do that within a minecraft.register_node? I mean, I want a value inside a node to change every so often, basically |
| 19:33 |
Krock |
no because minecraft.register_node doesn't exist |
| 19:34 |
Krock |
lol |
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bluegreen |
minetest.register_node registers a minetest node |
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bluegreen |
before registering placing anything in that node with cause a crash |
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bluegreen |
:) |
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Krock |
bluegreen, he wrote `minecraft`.register_node if you didn't see it yet |
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bluegreen |
oh |
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bluegreen |
minetest.register_pos would be a fun function |
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bluegreen |
imaging having to register a position in lua |
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bluegreen |
before any node is place at it |
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bluegreen |
why do I find this funny? http://pastebin.com/FLxVcDew |
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Krock |
uhm. |
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Krock |
use --go in command line to get rid of this message |
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bluegreen |
I fixxed it already |
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Calinou |
http://i.imgur.com/wXvClLd.jpg |
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bluegreen |
lol |
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bluegreen |
No future without mainmenu |
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Sokomine |
the treshing floor and the anvil of my cottages mod now contain hud elements. if somene's intrested in testing? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Sokomine: i could test it later :D |
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Out`Of`Control |
hi |
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Sokomine |
hi |
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bluegreen |
hi |
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bluegreen |
I kind of fixed the bug that happens when water meets ignore |
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bluegreen |
'kind of' because now the water stops moving when it hits ignore |
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bluegreen |
but I stays like that after the block loads |
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bluegreen |
so it's olny a bit less messy |
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bluegreen |
should I open a pr? |
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cornernote |
on multiplayer, if i connect locally, i have all privs and i cant revoke them |
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cornernote |
i want to test as a normal user, any way to do that ? |
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cornernote |
actually, its ok, i just connected as another user and i dont have privs |
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cornernote |
crazy permission system :) |
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est31 |
i guess its built so that you dont shoot yourself into the foot |
