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rubenwardy |
er, what? https://github.com/maikerumine/badplayer/blob/master/api.lua#L75-L76 |
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Taurith |
rubenwardy: https://github.com/maikerumine/badplayer/blob/master/api.lua#L383 |
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VanessaE |
wat |
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VanessaE |
I'm sorry, those two do NOT belong next to "child" and "gotten" |
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rubenwardy |
The most disturbing thing for me is |
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rubenwardy |
"== true" and "== false" |
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rubenwardy |
eugh |
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rubenwardy |
;) |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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FreeFull |
That should be a built-in lint |
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yunfan |
VanessaE: does #2544 really solved ? |
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VanessaE |
yunfan: as far as I know it is. |
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yunfan |
VanessaE: but i still met the problem you described , i am using the code from master |
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* VanessaE |
shrugs |
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yunfan |
the chest lag is reallllly boring |
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yunfan |
mean while, pick up items dont have any lag in the same game |
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Calinou |
http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FLOSS-Gaming-Downhill-Poll :( |
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VanessaE |
:( |
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Calinou |
really, Warsow 2.0 was recently released and is better than ever |
| 06:09 |
Calinou |
Xonotic keeps getting updates to have more stuff predicted |
| 06:09 |
Calinou |
and Minetest is in a better state than it was 6 months ago |
| 06:10 |
Calinou |
I seriously doubt FLOSS gaming is fading away… sure, it's a niche, but it'll stay where it is for the foreseeable future |
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VanessaE |
I would have to venture a guess that a majority of the people who participated in the poll that generated these figures are, themselves, nearing burnout |
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Hijiri |
the comments about OpenGL 4 might be related to that mesa/nouveau etc. don't have support for it yet |
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VanessaE |
hence they see things as being in decline |
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Hijiri |
is there anywhere I can read about what freedesktop people are planning/thinking in relation to vulkan |
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VanessaE |
no ida. |
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VanessaE |
idea* |
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Calinou |
nouveau and radeonsi support OpenGL 4.1 now. |
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Calinou |
also, most devs don't care, they even tell users to install proprietary drivers |
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Hijiri |
ok |
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Hijiri |
thanks for both infos |
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Calinou |
http://mesamatrix.net/ |
| 06:24 |
Calinou |
bookmark this :) |
| 06:25 |
Calinou |
looks like i965 has full OpenGL ES 3.1 support, that's nice |
| 06:25 |
Calinou |
but I guess it also needs OpenGL 4.0 support to be considered really complete |
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Hijiri |
Thanks |
| 06:26 |
Calinou |
Godot Engine (http://godotengine.org) will use OpenGL ES 3.0 for its 3D rewrite, with optional OpenGL ES 3.1 features |
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Calinou |
there will be Vulkan later, if it turns out to be good |
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yunfan |
Calinou: agree MT is better than ever. even compiling is more easy now |
| 06:32 |
yunfan |
also is it possible to have a html5 render ? |
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yunfan |
since i have saw many js demo show that |
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VanessaE |
html5? no fucking way |
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yunfan |
well , why not? many classic game has been ported to web platform, and since the adobe itself gave up flash, of course html5 render is the only target now |
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VanessaE |
because this is not a web-suitable game. |
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VanessaE |
same reason you wouldn't rewrite it in Javascript. |
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VanessaE |
those languages aren't meant for that task. |
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yunfan |
there're emscriptem which compile c/cpp sourcecode to js |
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VanessaE |
forget it. |
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yunfan |
also i have played a quake demo |
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VanessaE |
besides all that, the amount of work it would take to rewrite it to use js and somehow render via HTML5 would not at all be worth it. |
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yunfan |
as i have said, there're emscript which compile your c/cpp sourcecode to js, you dont need to rewrite the engine using js |
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yunfan |
https://github.com/kripken/emscripten check this |
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VanessaE |
+ |
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VanessaE |
-oops. |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Monkey Day! 😃 |
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spirou |
monkey day? |
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spirou |
and here i thought we should celebrate the moon this day rather. |
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spirou |
in a perfect world the moon should be slightly larger at monday nights :) |
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amadin |
Hi all |
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amadin |
can somebody write in lua chat command teleporting to bed with this player:setpos(player_spawns[player_name]) ??? |
| 11:31 |
amadin |
for bed mod with spawns |
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Calinou |
yunfan, Emscripten is too slow to be usable, moreover it feels like it's quite a hack |
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Calinou |
also the problem is making the game persistent (persistent singleplayer worlds for instance) |
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Calinou |
just forget about it, WebAssembly might make native software usable on the Web but right now it isn't happening |
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SylvieLorxu |
Persistance in JavaScript is reasonably simple: localStorage |
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SylvieLorxu |
I don't know if Emscripten implemented that yet, though |
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yunfan |
Calinou: well unity looks like use it for porting to web |
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yunfan |
SylvieLorxu: also there is google's pnacl |
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kaeza |
o/ |
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sofar |
VanessaE: html5 obviously not, but WebGL.... |
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* Fixer |
opens door to freshen the rotten smell in a #minetest |
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Krock |
AAH finally |
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Krock |
thank you :) |
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sofar |
Fixer: make sure none of the core devs run out, though! |
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dadix |
hello |
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Krock |
LOL |
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dadix |
there are any news abou global illumination for minetest ? |
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dadix |
about |
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Krock |
sofar, the dev room is still locked, so don't worry. |
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sofar |
Krock: good, I just stunk that up with some contentious patches this weekend... |
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Krock |
^^ |
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dadix |
I saw this was discused long time ago in forum https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94508 |
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Megaf |
Heya |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/10, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 9ms |
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luizrpgluiz |
rubenwardy: will be new in the next version of minetest? |
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rubenwardy |
It depends what is worked on. Here is the stuff that has already been added: http://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits |
| 21:39 |
rubenwardy |
this is the stuff the people want to be added: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls |
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rubenwardy |
lots of mapgen stuff, it seems |
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swift110 |
hey all |
| 21:40 |
rubenwardy |
hi |
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swift110 |
how are you rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
good thanks |
| 21:42 |
rubenwardy |
Making my own game |
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rubenwardy |
Working on the networking |
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rubenwardy |
Trying to work out why: "Incorrect size for TOCLIENT_WORLD_NEW_ENTITY packet, was 38 should be 37. Packet ignored." |
| 21:46 |
rubenwardy |
found it |
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rubenwardy |
forgot a break in a select |
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rubenwardy |
*switch |
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swift110 |
good rubenwardy |
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paratrooper |
Whenever I move my mouse away from the center of the screen, my vision moves, but it never stops moving |
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rubenwardy |
Are you using Wayland? |
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paratrooper |
I have to find the exact center pixel on my screen to stop my vision from sp- |
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paratrooper |
yes I am. |
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rubenwardy |
That's the problem |
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rubenwardy |
;) |
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rubenwardy |
It's a known issue |
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rubenwardy |
Wayland doesn't support cursor grabbing |
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paratrooper |
okay, that's comforting to know. Thanks a lot. |
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dadix |
rubenwardy what game ? |
| 21:57 |
rubenwardy |
https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/665608689152360448 |
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dadix |
nice game |
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dadix |
and a good fps |
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Fixer |
rubenwardy, will you also simulate minetest-like lag in that game? |
| 22:55 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 22:57 |
rubenwardy |
I'll add stress testing, ofc |
| 22:57 |
rubenwardy |
But I'll try and avoid getting MT like lag |
| 23:07 |
Fixer |
rubenwardy, i have a "great idea" for a new mod: Minetest from Mars edition (simulating playing MT from Mars on an Earth server), increase lag by +NN minutes, ???, FUN! also, no need to fix anything |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 23:07 |
rubenwardy |
Good, cynical, april's fools |
| 23:08 |
rubenwardy |
Shall I write up a prototype? |
| 23:08 |
Fixer |
lol, if you like |
| 23:08 |
rubenwardy |
https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/c648691d8f0e67c07c59 |
| 23:08 |
rubenwardy |
there you are ^ |
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rubenwardy |
Is my code style okay? |
| 23:09 |
Fixer |
i don't see any code yet |
| 23:09 |
rubenwardy |
exactly |
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rubenwardy |
it's already a builtin feature |
| 23:10 |
Fixer |
with Mars edition you can have consistent inventory lag, not that stupid 0-10sec, but 25:00-25:10 minutes, dispersion is much less and user is happy |
| 23:10 |
Fixer |
or opening a door |
| 23:11 |
Fixer |
again, no need to fix anything |
| 23:11 |
Fixer |
or another brilliant idea |
| 23:11 |
Fixer |
it is Mars edition |
| 23:11 |
Fixer |
but |
| 23:11 |
Fixer |
you have low nuclear power on your base |
| 23:12 |
Fixer |
and you are playing on Intel HD integrated on Celeron notebook |
| 23:12 |
Fixer |
that way we can lower fps down to reasonable 24, and no need to fix anything |
| 23:12 |
Fixer |
and it sounds cool |
| 23:12 |
Fixer |
like DOOM 3 |
| 23:12 |
Fixer |
DOOM 3 while playing MT on Mars! |
| 23:14 |
Fixer |
Moon lag is boring |
| 23:14 |
Fixer |
just 2 seconds |
| 23:14 |
Fixer |
MT is already has that |
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sofar |
http://serverfault.com/questions/336089/adding-latency-to-outbound-udp-packets-with-tc |
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sofar |
adding lag already is possible without extra tools |
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sofar |
just use 'tc' |
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Fixer |
nice |
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rubenwardy |
can you set it to negative? |
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rubenwardy |
and speed it up? |
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Calinou |
Minetest 2: Hell on Earth |
| 23:21 |
Calinou |
"Kids using mobile clients have invaded Earth" |
| 23:21 |
Calinou |
"You must make your way through them, griefing their cobble houses" |
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Fixer |
yes! |
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