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00:00 Fixer wonder if it is possible to change sound volume of some node depending on a distance with lua
00:07 RealBadAngel it is possible
00:07 RealBadAngel just make sure your sound is mono one
00:07 RealBadAngel then play it on pos
00:08 RealBadAngel moving around the pos will make it played positional
00:09 RealBadAngel place technic music player, start a tune and fly around for example
00:10 RealBadAngel you dont have to carry about the volume, engine will do it for you
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00:13 Fixer ah ok
00:13 Fixer but why no water sound in default?
00:13 RealBadAngel laziness
00:13 Fixer at least quite one
00:14 RealBadAngel grab ambience mod
00:14 RealBadAngel you may want to copy all the sounds to clients /sounds folder for better performance
00:14 RealBadAngel server doesnt have to send any sound files
00:15 Fixer water/water_source/flowing need sound in default, that is so basic :trollface:
00:15 RealBadAngel but thats laggy sometimes
00:15 RealBadAngel that screams out loud for client side modding
00:15 Fixer why laggy? just play one stupid sound continiously if near that crappy node :S
00:16 RealBadAngel do that for 50 users
00:16 RealBadAngel and you will know why
00:16 Fixer wait, it is in lua? not in engine? crap
00:16 RealBadAngel it should be in lua
00:16 RealBadAngel for sake of simplicity
00:17 RealBadAngel but side is wrong atm ;)
00:17 RealBadAngel better have each of those 50 clients to manage own effects than one server doing it all
00:17 Fixer yeah
00:18 Fixer now it is just nuts and lags a lot
00:18 RealBadAngel but it is useable
00:18 Fixer jump in water @ wait few seconds @ underwater.mp3
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00:18 RealBadAngel if there are lags, then yes
00:18 Fixer nice way to measure lag on server
00:18 Fixer i use that method
00:19 RealBadAngel most funny that client side modding is possible since 2 yrs?
00:19 SaKeL hi all
00:19 RealBadAngel jeija has proven it
00:19 Fixer proven? it is not quantum physics or whatever :S
00:20 Fixer of course it is possible
00:20 Fixer it is just laziness
00:20 Fixer and no time
00:20 SaKeL i have recently problem with server announce
00:20 SaKeL ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 0)
00:20 SaKeL i didnt change anything
00:20 SaKeL maybe someone know whats the problem ?
00:21 RealBadAngel https://github.com/Jeija/minetest/commit/e1c520d147975faf5a159cea707af20a5e3ed859
00:21 RealBadAngel fixer, try above
00:21 Fixer Jeija committed on 28 Oct 2012
00:21 RealBadAngel Jeija committed on 28 Oct 2012
00:21 RealBadAngel hehehe
00:21 Fixer lol
00:22 RealBadAngel over two fucking years....
00:22 Fixer we need that badly
00:22 RealBadAngel damn, THREE
00:22 Fixer MT server used to be running on Celeron 533MHz, 192MB ram, now you need a fucking Xeon cluster to make it work
00:24 Glorfindel for real
00:25 RealBadAngel core2 is more than enough
00:25 RealBadAngel just feed it with some ram and good gpu
00:25 Fixer server needs gpu?
00:26 Fixer i mean server not client
00:26 RealBadAngel i do client side code usually
00:26 Fixer max_lag problems are everywhere
00:26 rubenwardy Fixer, Build a World, a voxel video game based on irrlicht
00:26 RealBadAngel you know, candies
00:26 rubenwardy Also, I started writing a replacement for the ambient mod, but got bored with LVM
00:27 rubenwardy Jeija's PR shouldn't be merged - even he says that it's a proof of concept
00:27 Fixer what is worst is that people that running server don't know howto troubleshoot them
00:27 rubenwardy https://github.com/more-rubenwardy/environment
00:28 Fixer for example ESM or LinuxGaming2 got strange high lag problems that is hard to trace
00:33 rubenwardy <user> ruben way cant you just make me one?
00:33 rubenwardy *why
00:33 rubenwardy one meaning an @IRC user
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00:53 Fixer My ups baterry died and randomly shutoffs my pc
00:53 Fixer Once a week or so
00:56 Fixer Anyone did mod profiling on a working server?
00:59 Fixer Mandelbulb, hmm
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01:14 FreeFull When I try to quit minetest, it gets stuck
01:14 FreeFull And I have to forcefully kill it
01:15 Glorfindel wow
01:16 Glorfindel violent aren't we
01:16 VanessaE FreeFull: same here.
01:19 Glorfindel not happening to me...
01:19 Glorfindel or are you running the latest dev?
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01:34 VanessaE commit 900db310 (Sept 13)
01:34 VanessaE so well north 0f 0.4.13 anyway
01:36 Glorfindel ah,
01:38 VanessaE it's been this way for so long that I don't remember when the problem started.
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02:42 FreeFull VanessaE: I haven't had it happen until I installed the latest dev today
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03:17 rubenwardy The brutal truth: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=201764#p201764
03:24 rubenwardy What is a GOP Debate?
03:24 VanessaE US Republican party debates
03:24 VanessaE there are something like 10 candidates in that party right now
03:24 VanessaE (3 in the Democratic party)
03:26 rubenwardy Why do I see stuff about Obama talking in it? I thought he was democrat?
03:27 rubenwardy oh, he seems to just be talking about it
03:27 VanessaE no idea, probably just Repubs referencing him - the Republican party pretty much hates Obama, members thereof cock-blocking him every way they can when it comes to policy and legislation.
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09:37 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Day Of Reconciliation! 😃
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12:40 Calinou https://stateof.creativecommons.org/2015/ - wow, CC0 is on the rise
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12:42 Ingar I think a lot of people (me included) jsut had it with licenses
12:42 Ingar the simpler , the better
12:46 Calinou that's true
12:46 Calinou CC0 is the shit :)
12:53 Ingar WTFPL ftw though
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12:57 Calinou WTFPL lacks a warranty disclaimer and has strong language, please avoid it
12:57 Calinou CC0 is not OSI approved, but it's true public domain where possible
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13:36 jomat Hm, is there a full heigth microblock somwhere, because this one has a gap: https://github.com/Calinou/moreblocks/blob/master/circular_saw.lua#L47
13:38 Calinou jomat, it's called a panel? :)
13:40 jomat Ha, thanks alot!
13:40 jomat Now I have corners for the japanese teehouse
13:40 jomat :-)
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16:03 Megaf Hi folks, what's the block size again?
16:03 Megaf 12x12x12 or 16x16x16?
16:03 Megaf or something different
16:06 rafalcpp Megaf: size of map chunk? afair 16³
16:06 Megaf of a block
16:07 rafalcpp Megaf: size of map chunk was somewhere in config
16:07 Megaf a chunk is made of 5 blocks
16:07 rafalcpp Megaf: of a block? size in what... in world units?
16:07 Megaf by default
16:07 Megaf in nodes
16:07 Megaf I think is 16
16:07 Megaf or 1
16:07 Megaf 12
16:14 DogePony Megaf: one block is 16^3 nodes
16:14 Megaf Thanks a millions rafalcpp and PenguinDad
16:19 Megaf also, I don't fully understand this emergequeue_limit_total
16:19 Megaf what it means, how much resources it uses and how it affects perfomance
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17:23 Krock hi
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18:08 Glorfindel hi Krock
18:09 Krock hi :)
18:14 dadix hi all
18:14 Glorfindel hi dadix
18:14 dadix hi glorfindel
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18:49 Glorfindel you can change the spawn location, correct?
18:52 sofar yes
18:54 Glorfindel how?
18:56 Fixer hi
18:56 sofar minetest.register_on_newplayer(function(player) player:setpos({x=-126, y=1, z=-96}) return end)
18:56 sofar throw that in an init.lua
18:56 Glorfindel hell Fixer
18:56 Glorfindel *hello
18:56 sofar change the xyz to your spawn pos
18:57 Glorfindel ok
18:57 sofar weird that there's no minetest.conf or world.mt setting for that.... hmmmm
18:57 Glorfindel where do I put that?
18:57 sofar mods/spawn/init.lua
18:57 Glorfindel ah, ok
18:57 Glorfindel thanks
18:57 sofar insert newlines
18:58 sofar https://gist.github.com/sofar/d7cf704c7b236eff3775
18:58 sofar that's how it should look in the file
18:58 sofar and then enable the spawn mod in your world
18:59 everamzah are you looking to change static_spawnpoint in minetest.conf ?
18:59 everamzah https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L830
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19:02 Glorfindel everamzah: this will make it so typing /spawn AND joining the server for the first time will land them in x y z area?
19:02 Glorfindel or is /spawn not part of the default minetest game?
19:03 everamzah it will for new players
19:03 everamzah the /spawn command has to be added
19:04 everamzah i like the servereseentials mod by gunship penguin which features a /spawn command, but i think there is a mod for just the /spawn command alone
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19:06 Glorfindel ah, ok
19:06 Glorfindel excellent, thanks everamzah and sofar
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21:04 VanessaE ok, who is it that works on worldedit these days?
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