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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Wright Brothers Day! ✈ |
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VanessaE |
oh Abe will love today then :) |
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VanessaE |
(husband. big fan of the Brothers and of aviation in general) |
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JamesTait |
VanessaE, my youngest son, too. Crazy about planes. |
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Ingar |
JamesTait: Beethoven's 245th Year |
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everamzah |
any idea what "Map::getNodeMetadata(): Block not found" is or why it's flooding the terminal where i launched minetest client from? |
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everamzah |
http://i.imgur.com/sHs6XQ3.jpg |
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everamzah |
removing my client's cache directory seemed to have fixed this |
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everamzah |
actually it didn't fix this. :) |
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blaise |
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STHGOM |
I'm trying to set a server to public. the "server_announce = 1", and it says announcing to servers.minetest.net (paraphrase), but it does not show on the server list. what could be the problem? |
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blaise |
the port is open to the public? |
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blaise |
can you connect from the intertubes? |
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STHGOM |
yes, i can connect |
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STHGOM |
but some cannot, ive been told |
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blaise |
then that's probably why |
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blaise |
!up |
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MinetestBot |
blaise: give me an address (and port if you want) |
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blaise |
STHGOM: ask the bot if it's available.. |
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STHGOM |
!up myteke.us 39000 |
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MinetestBot |
myteke.us:39000 is up (89ms) |
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blaise |
interesting |
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STHGOM |
are you not able to connect? |
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blaise |
so, I guess there's something missing in the conf which is causeing the public list to not like it |
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blaise |
I'm not currently able to run mintest atm |
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blaise |
unless they are supporting fbcon/svga |
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blaise |
=] |
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blaise |
I'm in the midst of reinstalling my operating system |
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STHGOM |
hmm, would you like to see the conf? |
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blaise |
eh, I'm not sure how much help I would be in that area as I don't have access to the machine that used to run my dedicated minetest server |
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STHGOM |
ok |
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STHGOM |
so, is there any way to tell what the public dosnt like? |
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STHGOM |
public list* |
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STHGOM |
also, the guy whos letting me use a server cluster chnaged the bind_address, server_address and server_url |
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STHGOM |
and now it says it fails to annouce now |
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STHGOM |
but, it still says it annouces, when i revert it |
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STHGOM |
i guess i dont really know what he did, so its not really something worth bringing up |
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blaise |
sounds like his changes haven't propogated to all the dns servers in the route |
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blaise |
probably some old cached entries, possibly stale cache of ptr listings in zone |
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blaise |
it'll probably clear itself up in some hours |
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STHGOM |
hum, it has been this way for a few weeks |
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blaise |
interesting |
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blaise |
give me a sec |
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blaise |
I don't have bind-tools on this machine yet.. merging them now |
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blaise |
STHGOM: does this look right to you? myteke.us. 600 IN A 192.99.244.109 |
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STHGOM |
? |
| 15:29 |
STHGOM |
not really |
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STHGOM |
wth is it? :P |
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blaise |
that's the A record that is currently avaialble via root DNS for myteke.us |
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blaise |
there is no reverse DNS that I can see.. |
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blaise |
so if 192.99.244.109 is not the right ip, then I suppose that would be your issue |
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blaise |
STHGOM: so, are you Christopher? |
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STHGOM |
nope |
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STHGOM |
thast my buddy that lets me use it |
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blaise |
ah |
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blaise |
I use afraid.org ... |
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blaise |
so I can make changes myself on the fly |
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blaise |
lmao |
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blaise |
and it's free |
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STHGOM |
there is a web desk thingy set up that i can use |
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STHGOM |
and i can ssh |
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STHGOM |
what is the group needed to remove something from creative inventory? in_creative_inv = 0 >? |
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Calinou |
not_in_creative_inventory = 1 |
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STHGOM |
thanks |
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Fixer |
._. |
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!up survival city |
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MinetestBot |
Fixer: invalid address |
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Fixer |
._______. |
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Fixer |
!up 23.28.76.50 |
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23.28.76.50:30000 is up (143ms) |
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Leoneof |
hello |
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Leoneof |
Why I'm here? |
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Elench |
Because you are intersted in voxel based construction games? |
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Krock |
Leoneof, because you must waste your time somehow |
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Elench |
Or that, sure |
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Elench |
Any good PvP, survival, mesecons servers? |
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Leoneof |
u_u |
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mdjumethun |
anybody can help me |
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Krock |
nope because we don't know your problem |
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Elench |
Well, possibly but it depends on the question |
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mdjumethun |
krock please help me |
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VanessaE |
mdjumethun: tell us what help you need. |
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Krock |
He needs help finding out what's wrong :P |
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mdjumethun |
how i lock my house in a server from other user |
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Elench |
Protection blocks if they exist and steel doors |
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Calinou |
build your house only using steel doors, locked chests and locked furnaces |
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Calinou |
:) |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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Calinou |
(some people actually do that in Minecraft) |
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mdjumethun |
i see all building and other element protect see mr x owned |
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Elench |
Double thickness too |
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VanessaE |
mdjumethun: look up the "Areas" mod |
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Elench |
To stop lag hax |
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VanessaE |
and learn its commands |
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mdjumethun |
yes |
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mdjumethun |
all user only show but not destroy my furniture how it possible |
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VanessaE |
again, |
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VanessaE |
mdjumethun: look up the "Areas" mod and learn to use it. |
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mdjumethun |
now i build some furniture in a server but how it protected |
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LazyJ |
"Advanced area protection" aka "Areas": https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239 |
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Krock |
!mod areas |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: Advanced area protection [areas] by ShadowNinja - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7239 |
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Krock |
LazyJ, MTB does your job |
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LazyJ |
Thanks, Krock. ;) |
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Krock |
np |
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LazyJ |
And actually, the top post in Areas doesn't explain how to use it at all. :/ |
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Jordach |
i ain't feelin well but my mind is currently mad, great start to christmas ayy lmao |
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LazyJ |
Ok, so try this link. Scroll down about half way and read the "README.md" for instructions on the commands to set protection on your stuff, mdjumethun: https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas |
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Fixer |
hi LazyJ, any lack with lag? I've joined to look for few minutes, and it was near <1, which is good |
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Fixer |
hey, iron trapdoor is activable by everyone? |
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LazyJ |
Fixer, not much luck yet. Still getting spikes that go up like a rocket but come down like a feather. |
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Fixer |
well, it should go like that, that's the way it calculates it |
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Fixer |
try mod profiling and post results I always wondered if it can help find this problem |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sapier AT gmx dot net -> minetest/minetest: Android: Fix pressed buttons not beeing cleared on opening menu 6a7e166 http://git.io/v07Al (2015-12-17T20:43:25+01:00) |
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swift110 |
hey all |
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mdjumethun |
hello krock |
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mdjumethun |
how i lock my building block and furniture because other player not use it |
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mdjumethun |
please say easy way |
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behalebabo |
mdjumethun: Does the server you play on have protection blocks? |
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mdjumethun |
yea i play in a server |
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behalebabo |
Do you have a craft guide? |
| 20:05 |
behalebabo |
And also, what is the server's name? |
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mdjumethun |
just test |
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mdjumethun |
? |
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behalebabo |
In that case you can protect your buildings by placing protection blocks, crafted by putting 8 stone around a mese crystal. |
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behalebabo |
Cook cobblestone to make stone |
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est31 |
and you have to craft city block later on, to protect your house from tnt griefers |
| 20:11 |
est31 |
bc afaik tnt still applies on protection blocks |
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mdjumethun |
i want to...........other player see this is protected by mdjumethun or owner mdjumEthun |
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mdjumethun |
? |
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mdjumethun |
hello |
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swift110 |
how are you mdjumethun |
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rom1504 |
he's learning english |
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swift110 |
oh ok |
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Fixer |
tricky question |
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blaise |
strange and obscure answer |
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Fixer |
I have 2 chests on top of each other, i want to place steel door adjacent to them, how? |
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blaise |
point at different blocks, do it from the other side or different angle and use the screwdriver to turn it around |
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Fixer |
screwdriver is not helping |
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twoelk |
hold shift? |
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Fixer |
will activate chest |
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Fixer |
but anyway |
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Fixer |
with hard trying i've managed to rotate it with screwdriver |
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Fixer |
in some nonobvious way |
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blaise |
try the sonic screwdriver, not the regular one |
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blaise |
seriously |
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RealBadAngel |
somebody fixed the screwdriver, it was easier to use before |
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RealBadAngel |
;) |
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RealBadAngel |
sonic is working the original way |
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RealBadAngel |
but thats just my opinion |
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blaise |
=D |
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blaise |
how does one increase the difficulty? |
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blaise |
odd statement in a voxel world |
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RealBadAngel |
drop on death for example |
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RealBadAngel |
and start to watch where you are going |
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Fixer |
doors are tricky with screwdrivers |
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RealBadAngel |
doors shall be fixed |
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RealBadAngel |
screwdriver is generic tool |
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blaise |
they can turn any block, yes? |
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RealBadAngel |
param2 one, yes |
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RealBadAngel |
if the node dont want to be rotated it should register in a group "i_hate_screwdriver=1" or something like that |
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RealBadAngel |
so it will obey |
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RealBadAngel |
atm everybody can complain, nobody can code such simple stuff |
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blaise |
lmao |
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VanessaE |
so..who is it that maintains worldedit now? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sapier AT gmx dot net -> minetest/minetest: Android: Remove unused build target curl_binary bde6194 http://git.io/v0578 (2015-12-17T23:00:51+01:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sapier does.not.have.an.email -> minetest/minetest: Android: Don't put html docs to apk dcb91cf http://git.io/v0574 (2015-12-17T23:00:43+01:00) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sapierdoes.not.have.an.email -> minetest/minetest: Android: Remove non freetype fonts from apk a3fd167 http://git.io/v057B (2015-12-17T23:00:31+01:00) |
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LazyJ |
Hmm... while this string of Minetest updates is happening, maybe I should post an Issue about the cache being written in odd places. |
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blaise |
lmao |
| 22:50 |
blaise |
what minetest update? |
| 22:54 |
LazyJ |
December 15th's, 9eee3c3. |
| 22:55 |
LazyJ |
The cache is written to whatever directory is above the directory that minetest was started from. |
| 22:55 |
LazyJ |
In my case, I use a script so I can start MT from any place in the terminal. |
| 22:55 |
LazyJ |
It has worked for the past couple years until this or and earlier dev release. |
| 22:56 |
LazyJ |
"cache" started appearing in strange places. |
| 22:59 |
Fixer |
RealBadAngel, screwdriver is ok, trick is that door consists of two blocks, and two rotate it 180deg, you need to rotate bottom part, then activate upper one, or smth like that |
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RealBadAngel |
fixer, then maye node should have "on_screwdriver" |
| 23:00 |
RealBadAngel |
so it will be able to handle it on its own |
| 23:00 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, why not makin a door mesh? |
| 23:01 |
RealBadAngel |
nodeboxes are just simulated since quite a while |
| 23:01 |
RealBadAngel |
ingame there are meshes |
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Fixer |
RealBadAngel, it is not important right now imho, look other instead: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2015-12-16#i_4476113, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2015-12-16#i_4476116 |
| 23:30 |
RealBadAngel |
Fixer, mesh genereation is done is separate thread already |
| 23:30 |
RealBadAngel |
out of main loop |
| 23:30 |
Fixer |
RealBadAngel, it is not that |
| 23:30 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc it is |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
RealBadAngel, queue should be emptied once every rendered frame |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
RealBadAngel, one mesh per rendering frame |
| 23:31 |
RealBadAngel |
we dont do it like that |
| 23:31 |
Fixer |
RealBadAngel, that is causing stutter imho |
| 23:31 |
RealBadAngel |
theres one mesh per each mapblock |
| 23:31 |
RealBadAngel |
16x16x16 nodes |
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XeonSquared |
man cubic chunks is awesome |
| 23:32 |
blaise |
I don't get any noticable stutter |
| 23:32 |
RealBadAngel |
also, rendering time depends on other things |
| 23:32 |
RealBadAngel |
how many polygons are there |
| 23:33 |
RealBadAngel |
or how much often SERVER requires client to regen mesh |
| 23:34 |
Fixer |
RealBadAngel, does not matter, you don't need to process that much in each rendering frame, make it slower and smoother instead, now it creates huge spikes from 15ms->60ms because it generated 30 meshes in limited time imho |
| 23:35 |
Fixer |
say, slow down it so it renders with 16ms rendering frame + 1 ms of mesh gen |
| 23:35 |
Fixer |
smth like that |
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Fixer |
RealBadAngel, i've tried super simple flatgen mod without anything, soil only, mesh gen slow downs it 2x-3x (or at least it seems that it is the cause) |
| 23:37 |
Fixer |
by looking at F5 graphs |
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Fixer |
but maybe i'm wrong |
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Fixer |
blaise, to see stutters you can try singleplayer, or limiting your view to get good fps (at least 60 for example) |
| 23:44 |
blaise |
hrmm |
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| 23:46 |
Fixer |
blaise, turn on graphs with F5 and look at mainloop_draw |
| 23:46 |
Fixer |
blaise, then walk and pay attention to it |
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rubenwardy |
!title https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/677635381806948352 |
| 23:47 |
MinetestBot |
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rubenwardy |
Yay C! |
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blaise |
:) |
| 23:51 |
blaise |
Fixer: I'm working with an ati radeon rs690m |
| 23:51 |
blaise |
aka radeon x1200 |
| 23:52 |
Fixer |
blaise, aha, it is low end, it is slow as it is :} |
| 23:54 |
blaise |
yes, it doesn't need help |
| 23:54 |
blaise |
lmao |
