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xrogaan |
well, instead of xmodmap the kbcommon library. |
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xrogaan |
xkbcommon |
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Ruslan1 |
Hi MarisaG |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Ezhh -> minetest/minetest_game: Add plantlike_rooted coral 21f5eaa https://git.io/fpskd (2018-11-15T00:49:16Z) |
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Fixer_ |
\o/ |
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xrogaan |
How can I change minetest's language? |
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xrogaan |
want to run the game in english. |
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sfan5 |
add "language = en" (without the quotes) in minetest.conf |
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sfan5 |
or if you don't need any language support, just delete the locale folder |
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xrogaan |
I use the debian backports package, so deleting the locale folder might be a bit hard :) |
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xrogaan |
minetest-mapper doesn't work on debian either. |
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xrogaan |
http://dpaste.com/0WY9NM2 |
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xrogaan |
using 0.4.17.1+repack-1~bpo9+1, mapper comes with minetest-data |
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xrogaan |
might it be due to mods? |
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sfan5 |
no it's because debian ships 1.5+ year-old software |
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xrogaan |
python's too old? |
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sfan5 |
the python mapper has bee deprecated for longer than that, even |
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xrogaan |
oh, mapper is dead. okay :) |
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sfan5 |
install this one from source https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper |
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sfan5 |
what is debian even doing shipping the python mapper with 0.4.17.1 |
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sfan5 |
wtf |
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dzho |
I'm sure patches are welcome. |
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sfan5 |
the thing is, this isn't a missing feature or similar; debian is actively doing the effort of shipping something that was removed from the repo more than 1 year ago |
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dzho |
"actively" |
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* dzho |
hits up packages.debian.org/minetest to take a look |
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* dzho |
takes a look at https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/releases for comparison |
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dzho |
oh, hmm. |
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dzho |
this is the point at which it seems reasonable to wonder what the hell even is a release and how someone might know |
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* dzho |
hits up Ctrl F for 0.4 ... already fails |
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sfan5 |
the mapper is not versioned alongside the engine because it's version independent |
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xrogaan |
https://salsa.debian.org/games-team/minetest < they have their own repo, the mapper hasn't been touched in years. |
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* dzho |
repeats same exercise in https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/releases to same results |
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dzho |
same question applies |
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xrogaan |
include minetest-mapper into the minetest-data package << from minetest (0.4.6+repack-5), 2013. |
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xrogaan |
so it was included then never removed. |
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sfan5 |
I guess because keeping it is less work than figuring out a new piece of software |
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dzho |
have they just been making up these version numbers, or is this some version scheme that minetest upstream has moved away from, or what? |
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sfan5 |
is it usual that debian packages keep their own "fork" of the source repo? |
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dzho |
sorry, I'm not sure how to talk to you about debian because I'm not sure what your level of familiarity with it is. |
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sfan5 |
I'm not familiar with debian's packaging policies at all, hence the question |
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dzho |
like, I assume you understand bug reports, being a developer yourself, but I'm not seeing any discussion of whether or not there are debian bugs open on this, let alone patches. |
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dzho |
yeah, I'm not a debian developer, but what I do know is that they at least have *had* policies since longer than a lot of projects have even existed. |
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sfan5 |
dzho: by the way, the minetest/minetestmapper repository is a rewrite and has never contained the old python version, so you won't find any 0.4 versions in there |
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sfan5 |
the python mapper was inside the util/ folder of minetest/minetest |
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dzho |
so it inherited that version number from the parent project? |
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dzho |
and when did the parent project switch from 0.4 to dates as release numbers? |
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sfan5 |
it didn't, that's my point |
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dzho |
or are we not equating github-hosted "releases" as real releases |
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xrogaan |
sfan5: the "fork" is actually for their own history of changing debian patch and ruleset. |
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dzho |
that is my point, which is that how does someone like me who doesn't live and breathe your project even figure this out? |
| 12:47 |
dzho |
I play a little bit of another infiniminer-inspired game and occasionally check in to see how minetest is going because freedom, etc |
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sfan5 |
if you ask me, minetestmapper should not be packaged in the same package as the engine, so you wouldn't need to figure this out |
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xrogaan |
the mapper is in data, alongside other utilities. |
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sfan5 |
that's how debian does it, yes |
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dzho |
well, that's how whover did this *for* debian did it. |
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dzho |
whoever* |
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* dzho |
digs around for info about who maintains this for debian |
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xrogaan |
look at the changelog |
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dzho |
which changelog for what |
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xrogaan |
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/minetest |
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sfan5 |
https://packages.debian.org/buster/minetest < lists the debian games team and three people |
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dzho |
cool, I guess you know how to get in contact with someone about this, if you want. |
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xrogaan |
Markus Koschany is the most active as per the tracker. |
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dzho |
lol, looks like they have a few things on their plates: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?email=pkg-games-devel%40lists.alioth.debian.org |
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dzho |
I'm sure they'd appreciate some pointers. |
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dzho |
by the way, I love that a game appears as the first entry in the list of *all* packages on most distros |
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dzho |
because "0ad" |
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xrogaan |
sfan5: what's this colors.txt? |
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xrogaan |
`Warning: Falling back to using colors.txt from current directory.' < the mapper is failing with that |
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xrogaan |
oh, nevermind |
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xrogaan |
it's included in the repo, I just built the software in a dedicated folder for cleanliness. |
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CAESARFERRVM |
Salve est |
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scr267 |
Ave Caesar! |
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scr267 |
Morituri te salutant! |
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CAESARFERRVM |
Salve est piesquared |
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piesquared |
Hm? |
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CAESARFERRVM |
Yeah |
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piesquared |
No Latin. |
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CAESARFERRVM |
ok :P |
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emperor |
anyways, how goes the server network? |
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reset |
I need to get used to IRC :P |
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piesquared |
Anyway, CAESARFERRVM is here to advertise something amazing. |
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piesquared |
:P |
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CAESARFERRVM |
The roman empire has been reborn in minetest! The IMPERIVM FERRVM gaming clan is here and looking for members! |
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piesquared |
CAESARFERRVM and I are part of a massive gaming clan that is recruiting. |
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piesquared |
And he is in charge of advertising, so... |
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* piesquared |
disappears |
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CAESARFERRVM |
https://discord.gg/uFJ3qAt Is the link if anyone is interested. |
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CAESARFERRVM |
We are currently building up on some faction servers such as elkien's factions |
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piesquared |
And Complete Factions |
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scr267 |
Vae victis :( |
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scr267 |
Beati poperes spiritus |
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CAESARFERRVM |
Though Complete Factions is a server in the IMPERIVM's server network, we still have normal player accs there to play factions |
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CAESARFERRVM |
We are looking to expand our server network and modding team |
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scr267 |
pauperes* |
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CAESARFERRVM |
We already have a small forum, a growing server network, we are rebooting our modding team, and we have the fun part |
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CAESARFERRVM |
the legions :P |
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CAESARFERRVM |
organized squad pvp on factions |
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CAESARFERRVM |
military tactics, commanders, and all that good stuff |
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CAESARFERRVM |
anyways, off to conquer stuff on pvp servers with the legions :P |
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vtold |
VanessaE, may PM You? |
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Ruslan1 |
Who |
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vtold |
*may I PM you VanessaE? |
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vtold |
nevermind, I found what I was looking for :) |
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Ruslan1 |
vtold: you can pm VanessaE if you need her |
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vtold |
Ruslan1, I have been looking for her IRC and finally I have found it. |
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Ruslan1 |
Good |
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scr267 |
VanessaE: Is your server offline? Last few times I've tried to connect to it I'm getting timeouts. |
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Krock |
!up |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: give me an address and port (optional) |
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Krock |
^ scr267 |
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scr267 |
? |
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scr267 |
oh |
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scr267 |
sorry |
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scr267 |
daconcepts.com 30000 |
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scr267 |
!up daconcepts.com |
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MinetestBot |
daconcepts.com:30000 is up (9ms) |
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scr267 |
I see |
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scr267 |
I must be blocked?! |
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Krock |
that or you made a typo |
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scr267 |
hum, well I selected it from the list in the 'play online' tab. |
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scr267 |
I'll ask her when she's online. |
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scr267 |
A bit odd, I wonder why I would be blocked. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Framed glasslike: Don't use cuboids to draw glass faces (#7828) e5a3754 https://git.io/fpGgR (2018-11-15T18:45:44Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit: Warn about invalid //stretch usage 48e638a https://git.io/fpGr4 (2018-11-15T19:48:20Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit: Warn about invalid //stretch usage b2b2b93 https://git.io/fpGrK (2018-11-15T19:49:19Z) |
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