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erlehmann |
i am fully aware this is corporate propaganda, but it might work for minetest too? https://blogs.oracle.com/developers/how-to-set-up-and-run-a-really-powerful-free-minecraft-server-in-the-cloud#sign-up-for-an-always-free-account |
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<exe_virus> Wow, that's not going to be abused ;) |
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[0] |
AWS and GCP also have free tiers, but Oracle's free tier is especially generous. |
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<AntumDeluge> I know the core devs are probably overwhelmed, so I'm sorry, but I want to request a review of pull request https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/11202. I haven't heard any feedback on it for just over a month. Would have posted this in the #engine channel, but wasn't sure if there were any core devs that don't use Discord. |
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<AntumDeluge> Probably should have said that in #minetest-dev-irc. |
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notanewbie: PM an op once you've fixed your connection. |
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<AntumDeluge> Just learned that my PR doesn't work on Android. ? |
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independent56 |
ugh |
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independent56 |
minetestmapper wont work |
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independent56 |
https://pastebin.com/xVg4MDh6 |
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independent56 |
with colours.txt, it wont parse properly |
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<y5nw> colors.txt |
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basxto |
was the freenode channel deleted and restored? |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Use safe_file_write to save forceloaded blocks 1bc753f https://git.io/JGCzo (2021-05-30T09:40:14Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Fix procession ordering issue in content_cao f30dcdb https://git.io/JGCzK (2021-05-30T09:40:14Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Remove unused version detection from FindLuaJIT.cmake 2c53f03 https://git.io/JGCz6 (2021-05-30T09:40:14Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Fix background color of formspec text fields 758e3aa https://git.io/JGCzi (2021-05-30T09:40:14Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: script: Replace calls to depreated luaL_openlib a0047d6 https://git.io/JGCzP (2021-05-30T09:40:14Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Provide exact error message if postgres connection string missing a12017c https://git.io/JGCzX (2021-05-30T09:40:14Z) |
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independent56 |
NO GREIFING (grieving about griefing is allowed, but not greifing about grieving) |
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independent56 |
i like this rule i wrote |
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independent56 |
a bit ambiguosu, but meh |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Am I correct in that the Android UI is completely separate from the desktop UI? The changes in PR ( https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/11202 ) are not applied to the Android client. |
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<AntumDeluge> That can't be right. The client's UI is defined in the built-in Lua scripts. |
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<AntumDeluge> Oh! I think I just realized why it's not showing up. Installing a new APK must not overwrite/update the "Minetest" directory. |
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<AntumDeluge> Confirmed, that is what the problem is. |
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<AntumDeluge> Not sure if this is an issue only because I was using a packed with a different signature. |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> *package |
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<AntumDeluge> Does that mean that every time I upgrade the client on Android, I need to delete data/cache so that the "Minetest" directory files are updated? |
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sfan5 |
that should happen automatically |
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CWz_ |
Did freenode really try to delete the minetest channel? |
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sfan5 |
no |
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VanessaE |
but they have been taking-over other projects' channels, which is what matters |
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VanessaE |
Minetest is small potatoes compared to some others :P |
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<AntumDeluge> @sfan5 That was not the case when I installed my custom build. Perhaps that has something to do with the signature being different? |
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<AntumDeluge> I'm wondering if this is actually related: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11299 |
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<AntumDeluge> It seems the client relies on the cached data to determine of the "Minetest" directory is intact & up-to-date. But it does not appear that the cached data is updated with the app (unless, as I said before, it was due to the signature of my package being different). |
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I am curious, what do the core devs think about ShadMOrdre's GAL game? Is it a possible substitute for MTG? I saw it on the forum and it looked like it could use some contributors. ;) |
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definitely_a |
I also loaded it and it seemed like I had frozen time and space, weirdest experience since it's so unpolished. |
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sfan5 |
neard heard of it myself |
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definitely_a |
I see, ye just asking lol! I'm always on the lookout for breakthroughs on the MTG case. |
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river |
yo |
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river |
show me your machines please |
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river |
want to see cool examples of automation |
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calcul0n_ |
you should go on servers with tech mods and ask people there |
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calcul0n_ |
i'd suggest pandorabox |
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rubenwardy |
GAL looks a kitchen sink of mods, it doesn't feel very well mamed |
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rubenwardy |
For one, it's not a library |
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definitely_a |
indeed, he said it's like a game abstraction layer for programmers. I then thought he just created a sandbox for coders, which sounded useful. dunno really |
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<Benrob0329> I don't think we need a new MTG as much as we need more high quality libraries to make game-dev easier. |
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definitely_a |
Ok thanks for the quick replies! |
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im wondering... if i make a fork of minetest with the only difference being adverts, will i be shunned? |
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river |
i hate adverts |
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<Benrob0329> Most likely yes, most people hate ads to begin with and making a money-grabbing fork is especially frowned upon in open source communities. |
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river |
weirdly, fdroid seems ok with them |
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independent56: by whom? |
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independent56 |
by the community majority |
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calcul0n_ |
so it's not "most likely", it's a big yes :p |
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0_0 |
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i guess i ebtter delete that repo |
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independent56 |
(/j) |
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[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Add core.compare_block_status function (#11247) c9144ae https://git.io/JGlep (2021-05-30T18:24:12Z) |
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[git] appgurueu -> minetest/minetest: Fix base64 validation and add unittests (#10515) 89f3991 https://git.io/JGleh (2021-05-30T18:23:12Z) |
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independent56 |
what are the advtrains demo signals for? |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> I suppose for testing |
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<y5nw> There was a "7" texture in the Ks signal mod, so I supposed orwell wanted to make Ks signals more than something with only four aspects, except that has not really happened for a few years |
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independent56 |
hmm.... can i use them for my lines? |
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independent56 |
would they be allowed on LF as signals on mainlines? |
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<y5nw> I would personally not use them. After all they are demo signals |
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independent56 |
i would use them on testtracks, those long worldedit lines, designed to test trains |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> ... except I'm also testing Ks signals |
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independent56 |
speaking of worldedit, why is it when i do "//set advtrains:dtrack_st", then fix the rotation with "//param2 3", why is i that sometimes they nap back to param2 0? |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> Have you tried /at_sync_ndb afterward? |
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independent56 |
hmm... |
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independent56 |
oh my god.... thank you so much! |
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independent56 |
now i am not being punished for worldedit! |
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independent56 |
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826159362225209406/848643701748006932/Screenshot_from_2021-05-30_20-24-43.png |
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independent56 |
my train always stops here |
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independent56 |
but it can go up the slope perfectly |
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MTDiscord |
<y5nw> independent56: in case you are curious why I'm testing Ks signals: https://vimeo.com/556930062 |
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independent56 |
oh my god... germany is really taking over advtrains... but idc! |
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independent56 |
i put the wikipedia page for the german signals on my kindle. and wow! i love them! |
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independent56 |
what does mud reflow mean? |
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independent56 |
. A simple mud flow algorithm smoothens out dirt / dirt with grass hills |
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independent56 |
sorry |
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independent56 |
ddg ismy only friend |
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Sven_vB |
hi :) does the MineTest v5.4.1 client support UTF-8 in chat? |
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Sven_vB |
also I cannot use UTF-8 emoji on signs, is it the signs mod's fault or a problem with MT the engine? |
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Sven_vB |
they become \uHHHH |
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entuland |
in theory they should work, probably it's some codepoint that the font doesn't cover? |
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entuland |
I googled and I found a few discussions on github mentioning that UTF-8 should be supported |
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entuland |
or at least, most of the issues that were there should have been addressed |
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Sven_vB |
then it's probably converting at the clipboard paste stage |
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Sven_vB |
thanks! |
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entuland |
uhm... I'm not sure all the codepoints are supported |
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entuland |
I'm doing some testing |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> I have another question: The Android client build from development (master) branch can access ContentDB. But why can a desktop build not do the same? |
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entuland |
nope, can't get the chat to use the fonts I pick in the settings |
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entuland |
the chat seems to use a font for which there is no setting able to alter it, not sure whether it's possible to change it at all |
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entuland |
tried replacing all the fonts with Unifont (and the Upper variant as fallback), but pasting emojis or, say, russian, comes up as question marks |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Oh, nevermind. I was wrong. For some reason it wasn't working for one of my builds. But it is working now. |
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entuland |
okay, something funky is happening for sure - here is what I typed in the texbox and it works: https://i.imgur.com/ijtF4St.png |
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entuland |
but if I copy that text from there and I paste it back, this is what I get: https://i.imgur.com/vU7hwcD.png |
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entuland |
if I send a message with russian from a mod, the chat prints it properly: https://i.imgur.com/5oJhZ1p.png |
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entuland |
well, not _all_ gets through properly, what I had my mod print was "русский ?" |
| 22:49 |
entuland |
the smiley got lost in the chat |
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entuland |
even though I set all my fonts to Unifont (and Unifont Upper as fallback as explained above) |
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entuland |
something funky is also happening at direct input - I have an AutoHotKey script that lets me type greek characters just by hitting capslock, like this (random gibberish): κlθηασkδφηακσθηf |
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entuland |
that's directly typed here on hexchat |
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entuland |
I put such chars on the mod and had it print on chat, it works, but typing such chars in the chat prompt again gives question marks: https://i.imgur.com/O356sfo.png |
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MTDiscord |
<entuland> posted an issue on github, hopefully it's not too crabby of a report |
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<AntumDeluge> I hate Windows. |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/848707736317067294/minetest_dll_dependencies.png |
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entuland |
⊞ ♡ :P |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> wtf are you even doing |
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MTDiscord |
<entuland> I'll dare guessing "compiling minetest with visual studio or something" |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> MSYS2/MinGW |
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MTDiscord |
<entuland> close enough ? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> someone get Captain Picard on the phone |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> i need a facepalm |
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MTDiscord |
<entuland> ahahaha |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Is it Cygwin or MinGW that's largely deprecated now? |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> If anyone has a better option for Windows, I'd be happy to hear it. MSYS2 is a pain in the butt to compile the libraries as static. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> i compile just fine with vckpg and MSVC |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> I guess I have to give in. Never wanted to turn to MSVC. |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> I suppose the thing is that some might prefer to stick to open source toolchains as much as possible |
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MTDiscord |
<entuland> if I'll ever use any of the VS stuff again I'll do that within a virtual machine, too many bad experiences in the past getting the system messed up installing such things - but maybe the situation has improved |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Cygwin is the only other option that I know of that offers a Unix-like environment. But I don't know if that is even developed anymore. |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> BTW, I don't have any problems compiling. It's just that I end up with a hundred DLL dependencies because the MSYS2 project doesn't offer static libs in their pre-compiled libraries. |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> And I've found that compiling my own static libraries is more trouble than its worth... |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> FreeBSD here I come! ...someday. |
