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kyle56 |
is there a way to see what OS a player is using who is connected to my MT server? |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> The closest you can come is heuristic tricks to tell if they're on mobile or not, as there are certain things mobile players can't do that desktop players (usually) can. |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> show they formspecs and see if they complain since the scaling is terrible unless you do lots of testing |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> *them |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> more seriously, window size api in 5.8? that will allow you to assume mobile or not |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Hmm, that could work. Though again, I think it's one of those things that's hard for a mobile user to fake being a desktop user, but not so hard for a desktop user to pretend to be mobile. |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> If you want to know like Mac vs Linux vs Windows or something, that's WAY harder. As far as I know you'd be better off trying to use network fingerprinting, and basically any firewall between you and them could easily obliterate the fingerprinting info... |
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muurkha |
well, ideally |
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muurkha |
the situation may not be that rosy in reality |
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kyle56 |
well i guess i should admit, i kinda asked a question i already knew a answer to. because i have remote_media on my server set to a 404 url that i control. so from the user agent string i was able to find out. and from that, i was able to determine that the troll who joined my server with a racist name was using linux. which does mean they are likely from the mt community. tho i didnt really need to prove that. |
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muurkha |
aha, interesting! |
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MTDiscord |
<savilli> Send them a media file named "CON". If it fails to download, it should be Windows. |
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muurkha |
haha |
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muurkha |
or French |
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kyle56 |
i love using tail -F on my nginx log. its fun to see people browsing my sites in real time |
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muurkha |
you should feed that info to a bot on your server |
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muurkha |
like cheapie's mesecons hookup to a real-world LED strip, but for the web |
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kyle56 |
agreed. at least for the url in my remote_media setting so that i can see info on users that connect such as the user agent which tells if minetest or multicraft and the referer which contains the url they used to connect |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> If libcurl is leaking host system info, that's probably a bug. MT doesn't like privacy-leakage shit like that. |
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muurkha |
Warr1024: should be easy to repro? |
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muurkha |
Peter_Lankton might have some other tricks up his sleeve |
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kyle56 |
i thought it was intentional. its a custome minetest user agent. or at least i thought. i thought the default would be a curl or libcurl user agent. |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> I guess I'd be surprised if it was intentionally left in place, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was missed. |
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muurkha |
what |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> I'm not surprised it's identifying itself as MT, but I am surprised it tells you anything else about the system. |
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muurkha |
's oldcoder's minetest fork say? |
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kyle56 |
muurkha: lol what might he be up to? |
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muurkha |
kyle56: who, oldcoder? |
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kyle56 |
p.l. |
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muurkha |
isn't he you? |
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kyle56 |
yneos |
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muurkha |
heh |
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kyle56_has_conne |
ction_issues: testing a second username since i was disconnected for some reason then it says that name is already in use. |
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kyle56_has_conne |
ction_issues: anyway bye for now. |
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[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Settings GUI: Use language names rather than codes (#13752) a65cdbe https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/a65cdbe66e49d40ee103f68270ffad614b082c55 (2023-08-23T23:33:23Z) |
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