| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:19 |
cheapie |
Heh, spotted on a sign next to a road in... rather poor condition in Neustadt on VE-C: "This is what happens when you spend your municipal budget on anime" |
| 00:21 |
user2_ |
how is that even MT-related :PPP |
| 00:22 |
cheapie |
Because it's in-game |
| 00:22 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> its a luanti server |
| 00:22 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> ....so was it lminus or user11? 🤔 |
| 00:22 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> im going with the first |
| 00:22 |
user2_ |
is this chat bridged to a MT server? |
| 00:22 |
* cheapie |
checks rollback |
| 00:23 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> server implodes cause rollback is ass |
| 00:23 |
cheapie |
Rollback works fine on VE-C :D |
| 00:23 |
cheapie |
Was just doing a rollback_check anyway, too old though, no longer in the lgos |
| 00:23 |
cheapie |
logs* |
| 00:23 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> let me guess, because you keep it at one day of history or an external process? |
| 00:24 |
cheapie |
There's a nightly cleanup script, I can't remember what the retention period is but I can check |
| 00:25 |
cheapie |
Looks like it's set for 90 days for most players, 1 day (all actions deleted nightly) for players with the "daily_rollback_cleanup" priv |
| 00:26 |
cheapie |
I appear to be the only player with said priv |
| 00:30 |
cheapie |
VE-S has the same setup but with a retention period of 45 days for players not marked for daily cleanup, 5 players (me, MOZ, Eloria, Flitzpiepe, and BakerPrime) are marked for daily cleanup |
| 00:31 |
cheapie |
FWIW the line I'm using to list players with a given priv is (and there might be a cleaner way, but this works): SELECT name FROM user_privileges LEFT JOIN auth ON auth.id = user_privileges.id WHERE privilege = "daily_rollback_cleanup"; |
| 00:31 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> iirc rollback schema is decent in storing x/y/z columns, its just querying it that is terrible |
| 00:31 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> probably wrong somehow |
| 00:31 |
cheapie |
The index improvements fixed that |
| 00:32 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> yeah, talking about stock |
| 00:32 |
cheapie |
Stock contains the improvements now |
| 00:33 |
cheapie |
https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/7c6ade0fc5d4fccb3af190f54ca869a799fc3782 |
| 00:33 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> yeah, was looking at the pr version of that |
| 00:34 |
cheapie |
VE-C (and probably also VE-S) also has another index in there to make the cleanup faster, but that doesn't affect much in-game |
| 00:34 |
cheapie |
(that being said, the order of parameters in the new index probably makes it unnecessary) |
| 00:35 |
cheapie |
sqlite> EXPLAIN QUERY PLAN DELETE FROM action WHERE timestamp < strftime("%s","now","-45 days"); [snip] `--SEARCH TABLE action USING INDEX cleanupIndex (timestamp<?) |
| 00:35 |
cheapie |
I guess it's using it *shrug* |
| 00:37 |
user2_ |
what tool do you use to read sqlite databases? the only thing i have is some random tool i found on flatpak |
| 00:37 |
cheapie |
I just use the sqlite3 CLI itself |
| 00:37 |
user2_ |
yeah, i cant figure it out :P |
| 00:37 |
user2_ |
i do prefer CLI tho- |
| 00:37 |
cheapie |
I've used a few GUIs to browse data before too, but I've found them nearly useless for editing |
| 00:38 |
user2_ |
i'l have to figure out the CLI then- il do that rn |
| 00:42 |
cheapie |
wsor4035: [19:41:39] <lmisu> cheapie, re: budget on anime sign, actuallyt it's AlcesAlce [sic] :D |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> Yeah, they dm'd me |
| 01:01 |
cheapie |
meanwhile https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20250914_195846.png |
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| 01:16 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> something broken? |
| 01:17 |
cheapie |
wsor4035: Meant to look that way (just briefly for the screenshot) yes :P |
| 01:18 |
user2_ |
that screenshot looked like a BSOD happened to a node- |
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crazylad |
totally not stars on the main menu... :) -> https://filebin.net/08himy6oczky81op/menu_stars_redo.png |
| 02:45 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> not sketch at all |
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crazylad |
you mean filebin? |
| 02:46 |
crazylad |
filebin is an open-source file hosting site - seems much safer than the alternative "catbox.moe" which is banned iirc in a few countries |
| 02:47 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> banned in entire countries? wow, I thought it was just banned by some sysadmins |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> to view a png i shouldnt need to download a file, this isnt 1998 |
| 02:48 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> it's just a warning screen, then it sends you on to the real file page |
| 02:48 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> reminder you can't tell that an "open source" website is running the published version of the software |
| 02:48 |
user2_ |
yeah, me and crazylad use filebin a lot, it's fine |
| 02:49 |
user2_ |
you dont need to download it, you can still view it from the site, just press 'proceed to download' |
| 02:50 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> It is silly that discord doesn't show previews of some files. |
| 02:50 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> re above: crowdstriked |
| 02:51 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> |
| 02:51 |
MTDiscord |
https://s3.filebin.net/filebin/4b2351ff82833a0fc3ff7f9e9678e5ea6034e97b68e43498ba4f775154c6a1cf/c4b48baff6e966177b79ec0bf282937b126af3786e1ef602c0b0b0d31ae7ec7d?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=7pMj6hGeoKewqmMQILjm%2F20250915%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20250915T025127Z&X-Amz-Expires=60&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&response-cache-control=max-age%3D60&response-content-disposition=inline%3B%20filename%3D%22menu_stars_redo.png |
| 02:51 |
MTDiscord |
%22&response-content-type=image%2Fpng&X-Amz-Signature=4611eed1d5a14d37925a6582b8e22c37358878b18c6603e7c6df0a6de73db52a |
| 02:52 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> lol |
| 02:52 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> that URL is too long to fit in a single IRC message |
| 02:52 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> It works fine for me. |
| 02:52 |
crazylad |
yes, there's the actual file URL |
| 02:53 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> Is that an actual limitation of irc, or just a limitation of whatever client you're using? |
| 02:53 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> lol, so if you never accept the warning, and then revisit the url, it shows you the content without ever accepting |
| 02:53 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> of IRC https://irc.luanti.org/luanti/2025-09-15 |
| 02:55 |
user2_ |
ive used filebin for like 8 months, the only issue is there's a limit to how much storage can be used at once |
| 02:55 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> Wdym at once? |
| 02:55 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> A maximum file size? |
| 02:55 |
user2_ |
basically, yeah |
| 02:56 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> As long as you can upload as many files as you want, that's not an issue. |
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user2_ |
yeah it doesnt happen often for me |
| 02:56 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> The trick is, you put all the files you want to send into a tar file, and optionally compress it. Then, you do split -b MAX_SIZE_BYTES archive.tar archive.tar.part_ |
| 02:57 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> And you upload the parts separately. |
| 02:57 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> Then, to recombine them, you do cat archive.tar.part* > archive.tar |
| 02:57 |
user2_ |
i use 7zip- it was able to shrink a 1.9 GB archive with generic zip to 1.2 GB |
| 02:58 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> The difference is that my trick allows files of any size to be sent, as long as you have the patience to do so. |
| 02:58 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> You can transfer gigabytes of files over email this way. ;) |
| 02:58 |
user2_ |
i have a giant 1.2 GB archive with every MT version (minetest-c55 to 5.13.0, src code and builds) thanks to 7zip- |
| 03:00 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> ..you made multiple copies of the source code? I guess that's something you can do. You could just use git... Well, if it's out-of-the-box ready to build with IrrlichtMt you may have a purpose for that at least |
| 03:01 |
user2_ |
no- just src code i downloaded manually- i really should fix that ;-; |
| 03:01 |
user2_ |
but i have the src code for the minetest-c55 builds, im never going to risk losing that :) |
| 03:02 |
user2_ |
i do write a ton of bash scripts to automate installing each version tho |
| 03:04 |
user2_ |
also, is there a way to download a specific commit with git? say i wanted 5.13.0-dev-66aa5f3fa's src code, what would i run? |
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| 03:11 |
MTDiscord |
<nathan4220776> You could do git clone https://minetest ; cd minetest ; git checkout <commit_id> |
| 03:11 |
user2_ |
alr, il try that rn |
| 03:17 |
user2_ |
my network doesnt like me on the IRC, github, inagme, and cloning a repository at the same time- |
| 03:18 |
user2_ |
*ingame |
| 03:28 |
mrcheese |
hmm... how did 1 filebin link start all that... ;-; |
| 03:28 |
user2_ |
idk- someone thought it was sketchy or smth- |
| 03:29 |
mrcheese |
huh |
| 03:30 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> how about reading the scrollback instead of doing a big conversation circle? |
| 03:34 |
user2_ |
mrcheese, were you here when crazylad posted that URL? |
| 03:34 |
mrcheese |
nope |
| 03:34 |
user2_ |
if so, you should know how it happened- |
| 03:34 |
user2_ |
nvm then- |
| 03:34 |
mrcheese |
well |
| 03:35 |
mrcheese |
was afk if that counts .-. |
| 03:39 |
mrcheese |
uhh... any reason im constantly getting a HTTP error with the forums if i try to upload a image? cant upload anything due to a HTTP error- |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> mrcheese: the forums have a 1 MB file size limit. Above that, and you will get that obtuse error |
| 08:10 |
[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> ah, I see you got an answer on the forums |
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repetitivestrain |
can i request a zipgrep for core.get_biome_data? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> i found a new error |
| 18:39 |
[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> `ambiguous syntax (function call x new statement) near '('` |
| 18:39 |
[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> yay...? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> context: (...):format(...) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> it was in a table without a comma |
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