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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> Is there something wild going on in the serverlist right now? My server vanished, and there seems to be some ... impostor?? |
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sfan5 |
server name? |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> yourland.de |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> I can't send pictures unfortunately. |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> There's a creative server with 15 max players called "yourland.de" |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> Our domain is your-land.de |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> I can't find it on https://servers.luanti.org/ but it's visible on the client |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> It also claims it's running mineclone2 |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> According to my client, the 4 people on this server are a,b,c and ghislo |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> The address and port it points to is the correct one, but that's not coming from us. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I can see the real your-land.de in my favourites and something called "Your Neighbours" in the server list in the client |
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sfan5 |
I can't find this in the data files on the server |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> Your neighbours is a legit server we also host |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> then I can't seem to see the impostor mysel |
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sfan5 |
aha wait |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> https://ibb.co/QF4NqqNK |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> https://ibb.co/LhPqt2hX |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> Looks like they either switched to the domain with the dash recently or I didn't see right |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> yeah that's what I saw, the one with the dash, and the suspicious duplicate description |
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sfan5 |
since the list only permits one server this one is blocking yours from being announced |
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sfan5 |
however this isn't supposed to happen, since the fake one isn't being announced from the right IP |
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sfan5 |
but yours is |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> 1. what do I do to stop that? 2. what do I do to not have that happen again in the future? 3. can this attack siphon logins and password hashes? 4. Please DM me the IP the attack came from |
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sfan5 |
1/2: nothing, I fixed it now. | 3: no, clients would connect to your server. just the description and data is wrong. even if clients were connecting to the attacker server due to SRP it still wouldn't reveal hashes | 4: in redacted form maybe |
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MTDiscord |
<bastrabun> Since when was that faux server listed ? |
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sfan5 |
not before 12:08 |
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alias |
+1 thank you :) |
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sfan5 |
looks like someone with a different IP attempted the same thing yesterday evening (23:10) |
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MTDiscord |
<crazyr.> Not sure if this has been discussed before, its probably not a great idea, but it might be worth having a server registration portal — either integrated into ContentDB or as a separate platform. Server owners could create an account and register their servers individually. Each registered server would then receive a unique token to use in the announce configuration. This wouldn’t completely prevent spoofing or phishing, but it would |
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MTDiscord |
make it more difficult and provide better data for identifying and handling bad actors. |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> authenticating the server list has been discussed before, but people would rather debate and delay and say that whatever we'd add would be imperfect and therefore useless |
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sfan5 |
the current implementation is quite solid and it has safeguards against this. this was caused by an implementation bug. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/serverlist: Fix logic error in server duplicate check 2f66e1d https://github.com/luanti-org/serverlist/commit/2f66e1deca9dd0327de94ca48bd064b44c9d58e4 (2025-10-16T11:45:09Z) |
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user333_ |
found it |
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user333_ |
seems like the serverlist is hacked again... |
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MTDiscord |
<csperson> uhoh. |
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sfan5 |
? |
| 14:09 |
user333_ |
ok, maybe not "hacked"... just fake servers |
| 14:09 |
user333_ |
read the conversation from earlier |
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MTDiscord |
<csperson> oh ok so not like the incident from earlier this year |
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sfan5 |
I participated in the conversion earlier, so yes I did read it |
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sfan5 |
it sounded like you were saying there's a problem with the server list right now |
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sfan5 |
and not three hours ago |
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user333_ |
well the said server is still up |
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sfan5 |
no? |
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user333_ |
i just checked the serverlist |
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sfan5 |
!server your land |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: Your Land | your-land.de | Clients: 23/52, 18/24 | Version: 5.12.0-yl / minetest | Ping: 13ms |
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sfan5 |
^ that's not fake |
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user333_ |
and it's gone.... huh |
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user333_ |
i swear it was there.... |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/serverlist: Replace outdated URLs fda88af https://github.com/luanti-org/serverlist/commit/fda88af6761cd8b9ab2fda91d8fc03a1a240c5a0 (2025-10-16T14:20:11Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Thomas--S -> luanti-org/luanti: Clarify set_yaw() behaviour in documentation 6b0e1e9 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/6b0e1e9b67c43eccfc11949374b4747fe5658d17 (2025-10-16T22:17:52Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Make logging timestamps configurable (#16581) a049174 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/a049174f1259f7eb5e60d344bbfccb99ba92bde1 (2025-10-16T22:18:06Z) |
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