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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> no guys, it's not a launcher, it's a windows installer. It gets run once and then the program is installed, and for convenience it might open it immediately afterwards |
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user333_ |
i was half right then |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> a launcher is a program that you launch before you launch the real program, also known as a complete waste of time unless the software is complicated to install |
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user333_ |
sfan5 used the wrong term i assume? |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> yes, a mistake |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> good programs like notepad++ can just update themselves from within the program. Bad programs like M*necr*ft use the launcher as an excuse to hype you for buying more product before they let you play their product |
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user333_ |
thankfully pirating m1necr ft is somewhat easier because you just need a modified launcher ;) |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> pirating Luanti is pretty easy |
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user333_ |
yeah, you just need to press 2 buttons and you have it for free |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> hahaha they finally deleted Luanti 5.2 on Microsoft Store it looks like |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> that was $5 iirc |
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user333_ |
what |
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user333_ |
why |
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user333_ |
who would charge for it |
| 01:52 |
user333_ |
you can get it for free RIGHT HERE: https://www.luanti.org/en/downloads/ |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> someone who wants money. I mean there's no rule against it. And maybe it worked for someone who was stck in windows S Mode |
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user333_ |
so basically you pay them to get an obsolete version of a free game engine |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> yeah the worst part is they never even updated it lol |
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user333_ |
i mean it's the same idea as putting a free linux distro (like debian) on a usb and selling it |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> anyway Minecr*ft people are used to using a launcher for keeping different modded instances, where the launcher downloads all the mods in the pack for you |
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user333_ |
i could put a link to a pirated copy of minecraft right here |
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mrcheese |
lol |
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mrcheese |
>:) |
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user333_ |
but i wont |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> it would be nice if something like this https://gist.github.com/shrimpza/257edfa331eb9fc90524ac863d84ff34 were in the GUI |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> yeah please don't, DMCA |
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mrcheese |
;-; |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> the main problem with pirated Minecraft is you can only play multiplayer with friends who run it in offline mode, or offline mod servers with all the kinds of people who play on those servers... |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> *offline mode |
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user333_ |
yeah i found that rq, i wanted to join a MC server and advertise luanti lol |
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mrcheese |
LOL |
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mrcheese |
how to be set on fire in the MC community |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I think it's slightly funny to censor M1n3cr**t anyway :P |
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user333_ |
and the companies that own it |
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mrcheese |
yea lol |
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user333_ |
like M!cr0s0ft |
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mrcheese |
M!c0sofτ |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> Micro$oft |
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user333_ |
M!cr0$0ft |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> what version are you guys on? you keep up to date, 5.14? |
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mrcheese |
hmm... M!cr0$0fτ |
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mrcheese |
im currently on 5.14-dev |
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mrcheese |
plan to upgrade to modded 5.15-dev |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> μικροσοφ |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> *μικροσοφτ |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> that's probably wrong anyway, I barely know greek alphabet |
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mrcheese |
lol |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> I just have it as a keyboard layout for, reasons... |
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mrcheese |
... |
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mrcheese |
lol i google 'μικροσοφτ to english', and get results for: "Microsoft translator" x3... nvm like the whole page is just microsoft translators xD |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> it's just respelled into the greek alphabet |
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mrcheese |
lol |
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SwissalpS |
jonadab: https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/pull/13146 :shift-click holding same item to move them all |
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SwissalpS |
(except the one attached to mouse, needs another couple clicks for that) |
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SwissalpS |
also left-double-click on an item to pick up all items of same type (max-stack limited) |
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sfan5 |
user333_: I wasn't sure whether to call it an installer or launcher because it's not like the usual installer *or* launcher |
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sfan5 |
but I guess @Blockhead256 is right that it's an installer |
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sfan5 |
just a silent one |
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jonadab |
SwissalpS: Oh, _nice_ |
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jonadab |
I guess I should update, then :-) |
| 17:31 |
SwissalpS |
for that and many other improvements ;) |
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celeron55 |
that's june 2023 = 5.13, right? |
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celeron55 |
wait no, not even close |
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celeron55 |
5.8 |
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SwissalpS |
yeah it sure has been a while, long enough that I can say "it works" :D |
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jonadab |
Yeah, yeah, I haven't updated in a while. I'll do that soon. |
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celeron55 |
an old version being worth using is a compliment to the project. many pieces of software have a fairly short shelf life |
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SwissalpS |
true, true |
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celeron55 |
but i do still hope you find the new version better 8-) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix errors with fs::RecursiveDelete() on paths that don't exist 2ecd127 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/2ecd127f96d3ddd3aaa2c2a8e5dd9d74936dc2f5 (2025-12-10T20:32:05Z) |
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[git] Wuzzy2 -> luanti-org/luanti: Remove hardcoded color of infobox in /help (#16727) 876dfb1 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/876dfb1eb9eb69f4f7541e5da5b35e077ee01ee1 (2025-12-10T20:32:42Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Zughy -> luanti-org/luanti: Breakages: split fog from sky functions 87669f9 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/87669f982c9d998ca68c86bb50fdb66a8a75fb87 (2025-12-10T20:32:53Z) |
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jonadab |
Hmm, updating seems to have made minetestmapper not exist. Has it been renamed, or do I need to change my build script to ensure it gets built still, or what? |
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jonadab |
(The version I was previously using, was before the name change to "luanti"...) |
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rubenwardy |
platform? |
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rubenwardy |
oh are you expecting this as part of building Luanti? |
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jonadab |
Oh, I see, it's a separate repo. Hmm, is that a change? |
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jonadab |
Nevermind, I'll figure it out from there. |
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jonadab |
(Platform is Devuan as it happens, but that's probably irrelevant here.) |
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rubenwardy |
yeah there used to be a version in the Luanti engine repo but it was removed |
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rubenwardy |
it's now a separate repo |
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jonadab |
Ok, I'll just grab that repo too, and either adjust my existing build script or add a second one for just the mapper. |
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jonadab |
Minor adjustments. |
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jonadab |
Hmm. I may need to update my world, to use it with this new version. That may be why the mapper is getting an exception, too. |
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jonadab |
Something about sqlite 3. I will look into it later. |
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sfan5 |
i mean the time when minetestmapper was part of the repo is long gone |
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sfan5 |
0.4.x |
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jonadab |
Oh, hmm. |
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jonadab |
Dunno, maybe I was using an old version of it? |
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jonadab |
But I'm confused about where it went then, dunno. |
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jonadab |
I seem to have already had a (not-up-to-date) local copy of the minetestmapper repo, but lacked a build script for it, until now. Dunno what that means about how I was using it. |
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sfan5 |
dunno |
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sfan5 |
either way you just need this https://github.com/luanti-org/minetestmapper |
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jonadab |
Oh, hmm. |
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jonadab |
That is not the same repo that I have. Or, at least, not at the same address. |
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jonadab |
Probably because I cloned the repo before the term "luanti" was coined. |
| 22:45 |
jonadab |
Let me see if that makes any difference. |
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jonadab |
Yeah, that was not the issue though. Wouldn't have explained the error the new version of the server is giving me, in any case. |
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jonadab |
I'll look into the sqlite3 thing later, and the mod dependency warnings (which shouldn't have changed...) |
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cheapie |
wsor4035: that was fast |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> what happens when im around and its a sane/not stupid request |
| 23:52 |
cheapie |
Initially I wasn't really going to bother (I could use the positive non-reviews anyway :P) but it was getting annoying :P |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> we need the your a dumbass song for people who make bug reports as reviews despite the banner above review literally telling you not to do so |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> to be fair to the person in question, this was more for questions and making a cdb thread isnt the most obvious thing |
