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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> When is 5.17.0 planned to be released? |
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MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> Probably not for another month or two I think... |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Not too bad |
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[MatrxMT] |
<Blockhead256> bgstack15: I just use gnome-characters manually, not enough emojis in my life to warrant a fast input method |
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sfan5 |
https://x0.at/3T2q.png my IRC client is prepared but I don't have global emoji input |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> ✨️ Here in Element there's the handy emoji button—it's **so** useful for quickly enhancing your text, and **it's not just for your text**: you can even use it for reactions! |
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[MatrxMT] |
<birdlover32767> gotta sneak some misinformation there as well |
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MinetestBot |
[git] appgurueu -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix local animation mess 49fce5c https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/49fce5c7b741d6025d98a15f93c11bb54f763012 (2026-07-08T11:06:15Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] appgurueu -> luanti-org/luanti: Use 1-based index in track nr. OOB warning message 7595061 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/7595061855c39827c7d54ffb6b6d1dad9235df2e (2026-07-08T11:06:15Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] appgurueu -> luanti-org/luanti: Refactor: Use `LocalPlayerAnimation::COUNT` as array limit 7ff7fe0 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/7ff7fe0d14efb6981c7db11758965c78287cebfa (2026-07-08T11:06:15Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] appgurueu -> luanti-org/luanti: Support older AO_CMD_SET_ANIMATION_SPEED correctly fc47cfd https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/fc47cfd86b8285918661d7bab795967e5c619282 (2026-07-08T11:06:15Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] (1 newer commits not shown) |
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mazes_84 |
minetest.org no longer redirects to luanti.org, still related to minetest community or not ? |
| 13:00 |
user333_ |
i believe that is a partially related site with a lot of history |
| 13:00 |
user333_ |
pretend it doesn't exist |
| 13:04 |
mazes_84 |
another side effect of the rebranding |
| 13:04 |
mazes_84 |
some user may still seek for minetest and get to the other site |
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sfan5 |
you mean minetest.net? |
| 13:05 |
sfan5 |
dot org was never the minetest domain |
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mazes_84 |
ah yes forgot |
| 13:06 |
mazes_84 |
still this may confuse some old users still referring the game as minetest |
| 13:07 |
user333_ |
unfortunately it's not under control of anyone in the luanti project |
| 13:07 |
mazes_84 |
and was same before rebrand |
| 13:12 |
user333_ |
that site has a long history, it's closely related to https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?t=18946 |
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user333_ |
basically someone trying to take over the project (and failing, eventually) |
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bgstack15 |
Maybe that (assumedly old, due to the font size choices...) guy can just have "minetest." THe project is now named Luanti after all. |
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MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> no we still have minetest game |
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mazes_84 |
and config/mods/worlds/games ... still lays in ${HOME}/.minetest by default |
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sfan5 |
https://x0.at/sLkP.png visualizing how luanti loads blocks is quite interesting |
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sfan5 |
https://x0.at/uN19.png not confusing at all |
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sfan5 |
https://x0.at/lDrx.png when the mapgen needs to generate a new chunk you get funny squares |
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MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> mapchunks |
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Sheriff_U3 |
What happens when a mod includes both .po and .tr files in the locale dir? |
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crazylad |
I think it just picks one format and uses it, but I'm not sure |
| 18:17 |
Sheriff_U3 |
So it will not detect that a client supports only the .tr and send it only those and if it supports .po then send it only the .po files? |
| 18:27 |
crazylad |
from my understanding, the server will send all translation files (both formats) since it is just regular media, and then the client picks the best one to use, preferably the .po format if the client supports it (>= 5.10.0), otherwise it picks the .tr format |
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[MatrxMT]_ |
<y5nw> I _think_ both files are loaded, but the behavior is undefined if both files contain different translations for the same entry |
| 19:00 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<y5nw> (I think the behavior is generally undefined if two files contain different translations for the same entry with the same textdomain) |
| 19:15 |
bgstack15 |
Does anybody here use the "remote media" feature? |
| 19:16 |
sfan5 |
no but I understand it |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> i did when s0fars media server still existed |
| 19:31 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> its probably only super useful if you have giant media since luanti is shit (takes forever) to transfer them (citation needed) |
| 19:35 |
sfan5 |
define giant |
| 19:35 |
sfan5 |
but in principle, yes |
| 19:38 |
MTDiscord |
<the4spaceconstants2181> what is that |
| 19:48 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> idk, would have to dig up chat logs when looking at several servers and wondering why they took a while to load, ctf being the last one iirc. few mb? dunno. http transfer via browser was faster |
| 19:58 |
sfan5 |
the network code in luanti is really bad so it's probably a good idea to use remote media if your game exceeds 15 MB |
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user333_ |
there appears to be a server on the serverlist full of bots (like 170 of them) to get a high rank on the serverlist |
| 21:25 |
crazylad |
o_O |
| 21:26 |
sfan5 |
did you check |
| 21:26 |
user333_ |
very top on https://servers.luanti.org/ , a little bit of scrolling in the client |
| 21:27 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> At least they are running it on v5.16.1 :P |
| 21:27 |
sfan5 |
no I mean did you join the server to check if those clients are bots? |
| 21:28 |
user333_ |
it appears so |
| 21:28 |
user333_ |
they all have names in lowercase_with_underscores and put out a few LLM-generated messages |
| 21:29 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1524527787585704107/image.png?ex=6a5012a4&is=6a4ec124&hm=6357fae2f91c715bb3380ddaf02671bc54cf6d2539be427bfc050e09960ffa02& |
| 21:30 |
sfan5 |
I don't speak chinese so how do we know what those messages say |
| 21:30 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> they are running only default MTG... |
| 21:31 |
user333_ |
they are definitely bots of some sort |
| 21:32 |
user333_ |
all of them constantly telling us stuff in english and chinese |
| 21:33 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> you sure it's not just some chinese influencer that's bringing in their audience to break a record or something? they have internet culture and charismatic influencers too 🤷 |
| 21:33 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> Just a wall of bones... |
| 21:33 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/1524528976813494332/image.png?ex=6a5013c0&is=6a4ec240&hm=63a21293a46c8307ab725c23a0ba6df33c27d213498360461827441a5e6712b1& |
| 21:34 |
user333_ |
all from the bots |
| 21:35 |
user333_ |
message logs https://user333.sweeux.org/p/user333/a0ec46bb5d6041dcb9614cb868505525 |
| 21:35 |
user333_ |
(_s and iamtroubled are me/crazylad) |
| 21:36 |
sfan5 |
that does look pretty automated yeah |
| 21:36 |
sfan5 |
thanks |
| 21:36 |
user333_ |
np |
| 21:37 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> a lot of games do have servers with bots to make it feel more lived in and less empty, but reporting them as actual players should always be a nono |
| 21:37 |
MTDiscord |
<rollerozxa> ok yes, yeah that looks very bot-y |
| 21:37 |
user333_ |
and 170 of them? |
| 21:44 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> They seem to be using a modified version of MTG as /help is messed up. |
| 21:45 |
MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> Is there anything that can be done about it though? |
| 21:51 |
[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> servers have been banned off the list before, it can be done again |
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MTDiscord |
<sheriff_u3> Hope that one gets banned. |
| 21:52 |
user333_ |
it's now at the bottom of the list so i assume sfan5 did something |
| 21:54 |
user333_ |
on the serverlist webpage at least, in the client it's at the bottom of the servers with more than 1 user |
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crazylad |
yea |
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