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MTDiscord |
<shadowblitz16> Is luau breaking compatability with the c api a big deal? Luau is security oreinted, maybe there is a jit version. |
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technomancy |
luau breaks TCO ಠ_ಠ |
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MTDiscord |
<shadowblitz16> idk what TCO is |
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MTDiscord |
<shadowblitz16> total cost of ownership is what google said |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> tail call optimization |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> in lua, return f(...) is a tail call, it just jumps straight into f; you can have an infinite loop using function calls and it won't stack overflow |
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pgimeno |
<sfan5> cheapie: i'm curious if you agree with the criticism in this article https://dmitry.gr/?r=06.%20Thoughts&proj=12.%20RV |
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pgimeno |
Nice article. It makes some very valid points, others not so valid. Didn't know RISC-V was such a mess. I don't think RVController needs to care though. |
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cheapie |
I don't really have time to read the whole thing before I leave for work in a few minutes, but it seems about the same as most of these |
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cheapie |
I've only dealt with a handful of ISAs so far (at least in terms of assembly programming), and at least for me RISC-V is about tied with 68k for being the least-bad to program for, but I'm also not a hardware designer so I can't really speak for that angle at all |
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cheapie |
x86 was indeed a nightmare to program for when I tried :P |
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pgimeno |
the main point about optionality which the author makes throughout the article is weak: you don't code something "for RISC-V" generically and try to autodetect features; you instead require a minimum set of extensions, like the requirement of RVA23 for some Linux distros, and base your code on them |
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pgimeno |
is RVController RVA23 compliant, by the way? I don't know what that entails and the extensions it requires |
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cheapie |
Not even close :P |
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cheapie |
pgimeno: FWIW I don't remember exactly what the requirements are for RVA23, but I do remember it requires 64-bit, floating-point, and vector features (which RVController doesn't have), among other things |
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cheapie |
I think it comes out to something like RV64GCVBH (plus some Z stuff) whereas RVController is RV32IMACB |
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pgimeno |
makes sense, also user/supervisor mode separation I guess |
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cheapie |
yes |
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cheapie |
Although RVController does have some parts of the privileged architecture already (just the M-mode parts so far), and I'd like to implement U-mode and S-mode at some point |
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cheapie |
found it https://docs.riscv.org/reference/rva23/v1.0/rva23-profiles.html |
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pgimeno |
oh great, thank you |
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cheapie |
Out of what it lists for RVA23U64, RVController supports: M, A, C, B, Zicsr, Zicntr, Ziccif, Ziccrse, Ziccamoa, Zicclsm, Za64rs, Zihintpause, Zkt, Zicond, Zimop, Zcmop, Zcb, Zawrs, Zicfilp |
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cheapie |
And for RVA23S64, it supports: Zifencei (and that's it) |
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pgimeno |
uh, single precision IEEE semantics is pretty hard to implement in Lua |
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cheapie |
For the "development options", Zabha, Zacas, and Zama16b |
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cheapie |
Yeah, which is why I have no floating-point at all :P |
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cheapie |
My end goal is to maybe eventually boot Linux on this thing, Linux does not need an FPU |
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[git] red-001 -> luanti-org/luanti: Clear pointer from userdata during GC (#17472) 7c2d1ef https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/7c2d1efd63f9bf6b845a697f7b7af9904b5f4561 (2026-08-20T12:52:12Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix use-after-free caused by core.clear_objects() 954fb6c https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/954fb6cb08cef6c8dee85263bbdffeb3bbc1e20b (2026-08-20T12:55:10Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix use-after-free with metadata deletion a768328 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/a76832838acf7869453d338c3efff93c0a877932 (2026-08-20T12:55:10Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Don't allow client-local CAO to be deleted 02cc57f https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/02cc57f2542497a39e68ca198ea9f26c8a99141a (2026-08-20T12:55:10Z) |
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crazylad |
5.17.0 release day! |
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MTDiscord |
<ggepic64> yayayyayaya |
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[git] veselsem users.noreply.hosted.weblate.org -> luanti-org/luanti: Translated using Weblate (Slovenian) 3ab5dc0 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/3ab5dc0c2e566e2ec8dc60c98f6c98048778e9cd (2026-08-20T16:10:36Z) |
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[git] dainispolis123gmail.com -> luanti-org/luanti: Translated using Weblate (Latvian) 3378c41 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/3378c419eb222a2ac6610341fcd1eff7c04e3f7b (2026-08-20T16:10:36Z) |
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[git] BreadT -> luanti-org/luanti: Translated using Weblate (Japanese) 6f2ec0c https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/6f2ec0c6561d3b3fa88fcea09ad8b9f0869cae50 (2026-08-20T16:10:36Z) |
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[git] AbbyRead -> luanti-org/luanti: Fix a typo in profiling.md (#17469) 7aacf72 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/7aacf72303a15c4168aa7c67cd378aafdf1f0f75 (2026-08-20T16:40:47Z) |
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[git] SmallJoker -> luanti-org/luanti: Settings-related fixes db7d81e https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/db7d81edb25ebc0ae95ef48da9cdeb1bdaa03c5c (2026-08-20T16:58:33Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Bump version to 5.17.0 c0e6812 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/c0e6812b1a4260bb25a1f606f70f55f4962bb97d (2026-08-20T17:08:34Z) |
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crazylad |
FIVE POINT SEVENTEEN |
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* cheapie |
rushes to be the first one to join VE-C with 5.17 |
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Krock |
cheapie: you can change the version string to be the first to join with 5.18.0-dev |
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* user333_ |
compiles it on his linux phone |
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crazylad |
lol |
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cheapie |
Krock: If I wanted to edit the version string I'd make it 6.21-dev or something |
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Krock |
or to 4.2.0 just to confuse the statistics |
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* cheapie |
updates VE-C itself to 5.17, for good measure |
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user333_ |
i need to update my servers too.. |
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user333_ |
compiling on my RPi1 (again) will be fun |
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user333_ |
https://user333.sweeux.org/tmp/DSC03991.JPG |
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crazylad |
dang that's so cool |
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user333_ |
it essentially just runs alpine linux with a *near mainline* kernel, so it can run a lot of stuff |
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user333_ |
much better than a locked down ecosystem by a large tech company |
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cheapie |
Krock: New idea, change the version string to claim to be Minecraft, /really/ confuse the stats :P |
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[git] sfan5 -> luanti-org/luanti: Continue with 5.18.0-dev 31ec2b6 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/31ec2b68dfa37d101ff29127783500fe35cb1a2c (2026-08-20T17:08:36Z) |
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user333_ |
i think i actually did set my version string to 1.21.4 or something like that at one point |
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user333_ |
https://user333.sweeux.org/tmp/DSC03992.JPG (zoom in to read it) |
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[git] red-001 -> luanti-org/luanti: Cache vcpkg builds (#17470) 8d68881 https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/commit/8d68881c8974911c55201139d6d78f616119b220 (2026-08-20T21:06:15Z) |
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Sheriff_U3 |
Since when did minetest have a material field in core.register_node? |
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Sheriff_U3 |
Note the fact I said minetest and not Luanti. |
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[MatrxMT]_ |
<Blockhead256> material? I've not heard of that one |
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Sheriff_U3 |
Well I'm working a mod from 2009 that has a material field defined in register_node |
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Sheriff_U3 |
Looks like it was used in place of drawtype |
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cheapie |
Sheriff_U3: 2009? 0.4 didn't exist until late 2011 and the project as a whole isn't too much older than that |
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Sheriff_U3 |
opps I meant 2011... |
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Sheriff_U3 |
https://forum.luanti.org/viewtopic.php?t=568 |
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cheapie |
I found where those digprop functions came from, at least: https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/blob/0.4.dev-20111209-1/data/builtin.lua#L341 |
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cheapie |
And where that data is then read (including what fields it has): https://github.com/luanti-org/luanti/blob/0.4.dev-20111209-1/src/scriptapi.cpp#L1112-L1124 |
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Sheriff_U3 |
I just need to figure out how to convert the mod to current standards... |
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cheapie |
It looks like you'd probably want to drop the material field and replace it with the usual dig groups |
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